No time for Evolution?

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Barcs

I am urging him to test gravity if he's so certain we need to understand it, for it to hold true

Seriously the only asinine thing is his argument, based on well nothing.

Yep, exactly. Sure, I'll admit that understanding the origin of something gives us more overall knowledge about it, but it doesn't change the mechanics.

a reply to: Barcs

I am not convinced that understanding the origin of life will tell us anything more about evolution mechanisms, given there is a high chance that what first life looked like, is nothing like what we have now, its of limited value. Similarly as you say, Gravity still has the same mechanics Oh look a graviton, still falls from a great height at terminal velocity...

a reply to: Noinden

Speak for yourself!

When I read out loud about DNA, RNA and evolution in front of a monkey it DOES change. Mainly to a confused state, wondering what I'm on about, but that's still a change.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Oh I was hoping for wings, it will make our Illuminati doings much easier .... send a messenger monkey, like a pigeon but it flings its feces (rather than just deposits it) and gives you ebola.....

a reply to: Noinden

Flying monkeys? That's sooooooo 20th century!

What we need is teleporting monkeys! I'm sure you've got the tech hidden behind a test tube somewhere.

Also, it MUST be Zika, not Ebola. Because I made a poem about the Zika dude (or dudette).

a reply to: TerryDon79

(its Dude)

Ok Zirka it is, but that is so slow, and not particularly lethal..... or primate transmitted (I think?)

But technology must evolve, so teleporting primates it is....

a reply to: Noinden

Can't you modify the virus to make it cross species and a forced mutation for increased lethality?

(Bear in mind, if you say yes someone will use it as "proof" of intelligent design/modification being possible lol)

a reply to: TerryDon79

Only for the right price, we're capitalistic b'stards remember Illuminati don't do it for free, I mean I'll need that Vaccine to spread autism, and sterility before we do this right?

a reply to: Noinden

4 boxes of cornflakes and 2 boxes of rice krispies enough?

I'm hoping it's going to be the vaccines with the deadly amount of mercury in.

ETA: Forgot the vaccine needs human feces in it too!

a reply to: TerryDon79

I'm more of a granola kinda guy (remember pagan ) but ok.... how much formaldehyde do you want with that mercury?

a reply to: Noinden

Ah. I only have 3 and a half boxes of granola. Would that be enough? I can throw in a worn key ring that, if you look at it right, looks like a naked snail.

Oh, trace amounts of formaldehyde. 1 ppb?That should be enough. Don't you think?

a reply to: TerryDon79

I guess that will do, is it organic, and by organic, made from something edible?

1ppb should be about right, you know less than a salad you might eat will give off when digested

a reply to: Noinden

I got told it was freshly picked from the granola tree last week.

I was hoping for cumulative effects over a range of 60-80 years. Certainly seems like the right dosage to me.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Oh no, we don't want them to live that long, even if they are evolving that way

a reply to: Noinden

We could always up the dosage so they live about 40 years. Be like pre modern medicine days all over again.

a reply to: TerryDon79

See we evolved despite heroic medicine. Just like when people go "we've been healing people for millenia" to illustrate why Doctors know nothing. They don't know that the USA was once the worst place to get practiced on by a Doctor, because there was no rigor to the training ,complete with bleeding,prugatives, mustard poultices etc were the norm, aka "Heroic medicine". This was when Europe and Japan were using scientific Medicine. So when the Flu epidemic of 198/1919 came around you still had Doctors who were not trained in modern medicine ... that did not help the mortality rate

So Medicine also evolved.

a reply to: Noinden

People also evolved to become less susceptible to certain illnesses.

Viruses and bacteria also evolved to be more effective, in some cases. MRSA for example (mentioned on page 2 of this thread) evolved from MSSA to be resistent against methicillin.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Diseases can also evolve to become lless or more severe as well. Its what probably happened with the Black Death and 1919 Flu. The latter one is not really a shock, influenza is an RNA virus, and mutates so damned fast, that it constantly changing, hence why there is a new flu jab every year (and thats not really enough to "protect you").

Now bacteria and antibiotic resistance? Yeah that is bad. Its also our own damn fault as a species. We demanded antibiotics for virus', we added it to our food animals, in our hand washes etc. People constantly don't finish their course of treatments. Yet people bitch at big pharma "they're not doing anything about it"... well yeah, some are, and to get a drug to market does NOT happen over night. Because when it does, and someone gets ill (all pharmaceuticals and natural cures (yes even them)) have people who will not get along with them), the lawyers come out, and sue.

do you guys want a room?

a reply to: Noinden

The irony is amazing.

People want pharmaceuticals to cure illnesses. Some cause bacteria and viruses to mutate a resistance to certain pharmaceuticals. People blame pharmaceuticals for the drug resistent virus/bacteria and want a pharmaceutical to sort it out.