No time for Evolution?

a reply to: neoholographic

All because you type it in caps, it makes it so, ooo and you used a 2 dollar work asinine. I can use them as well old bean. You are being an obtuse little partisan.

You are trying to imply that because we don't know where something comes from, then we can not understand it. Which is wrong. Again climb up real high, jump off, and see if Gravity lets you miss the ground.

Evolution happens, whether you acknowledge it, or understand it. You can observe it. You choose not too try.

Also you saying a statement is "silly" (you could not affort asinine again in one post? Sucks to be intellectually destitute), does not make it so.

You use the term Darwinist, as if that is a thing. The term is SCIENTIFICALLY LITERATE. Sound it out.

a reply to: Noinden

You work for teh illuminati too?

When do we get paid?

a reply to: Noinden

I never said that.

I said, you can understand how something works but that understanding is limited. You're obviously a Johnny come lately that didn't bother to read the thread before commenting.

I said this several times now.

You will always have an incomplete picture unless you know Origins. Why do you think they're looking for primordial gravity waves and the graviton? Why do you think they're looking at gravity as it relates to entanglement? This is because discovery or the non discovery of these things CAN CHANGE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF GRAVITY.

This is the same with Evolution and the Origin of Life.

Sadly, DARWINIST live in a fantasy world where common sense and logic doesn't apply.

a reply to: neoholographic

The world without common sense and logic would be yours.

We don't NEED to know how somethings started to understand how it works (See my wheel and walls example). The only person who's says we do, is you.

a reply to: TerryDon79

You have no clue as to how science works.

You can understand how something works, and I have said this over and over again, but you can't fully understand it without knowing it's origins because that understanding can change.

This is why scientist are looking for primordial gravity waves, the graviton, false vacua in string theory, hawking radiation and more. This is because they don't know Origins and anyone of these discoveries can change our understanding.

This happened with Newton and Einstein. Scientist thought they understood just about everything because of Newtons Laws but then Einstein came along and things changed. Then cam Bohr, Heisenberg and Quantum Mechanics.

So again, it's just Darwinst that make this silly claim.

a reply to: neoholographic

That's funny. YOU saying I don't understand science lol.

You know people who build houses? They've don't need to know where walls came from to be able to fully understand how walls work.

Same as scientists don't need to know where life originated from to know how evolution works.

But you keep saying they do with no evidence of why. How about present a peer reviewed paper (you know? The way real scientists do stuff) to explain why we need to know origins of life to explain evolution.

a reply to: TerryDon79

This statement here shows your ignorance of Science. You said:

You know people who build houses? They've don't need to know where walls came from to be able to fully understand how walls work.

If you're just building a house then all you need to know is how walls work and how to put them together. A Scientist wants to know Origins. So they will tell you about what makes a wall in the first place.

If you don't understand the difference then you have no business even discussing Science outside of a 7th grade Science Class.

a reply to: neoholographic

When someone starts moving the goal posts, to try and gain traction, I tend to doubt them. As per usual, you move the goal posts. You try to cloud the discussion, and you don't understand the science.

Talk to the science neo. If you can't there is the door.

Mutation is the vehicle of evolution.

a reply to: neoholographic

You are using a false analogy.

Science is not "building a house". Science is interpretation of data, and making sense of that, the interpretation sometime changes with new data. It is called being intellectually honest.

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Noinden

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Sadly, DARWINIST live in a fantasy world where common sense and logic doesn't apply.

What exacly is a Darwinist neighbour? Scientists do not pick and choose which theories they consider valid. They research those they have problems with, and let the data speak for itself. Thus, what fantasy, what illogic is in the theory of evolution. Oh and if I see the words "they don't know how life started" enter into this reply from you, you will have conceded you are wrong. Speak only to evolution, no biogenesis, not how the universe started, and not what happens after death.

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: TerryDon79
A Scientist wants to know Origins.

Tell me, how educated in the sciences are you?

For example you mention 7th grade science. How far has your education gone? Mine has gone to postgraduate and career. Just for comparison.

A scientist investigates the data, not what "they want".

a reply to: TerryDon79

We get paid when the masses are subjugated, now get back to work!

a reply to: Noinden

Awwwwww!

That means I'll NEVER get paid!

originally posted by: neoholographic
Scientist thought they understood just about everything because of Newtons Laws but then Einstein came along and things changed.

Newtons Laws still work well enough for space travel.
It's not like Einstein rocked up and everything started floating, or all his tests stopped working.

We may learn new things however that doesn't dismiss what we've learnt.

a reply to: TerryDon79

We're trolling the world.

We get paid in satisfaction.

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: neoholographic

Origin of life= chemistry. Evolution = biology.

And I remember your comment accusing me of making up definitions for the word "design" when I used a shortened version of a definition found in the Oxford dictionary and 2 or 3 dictionaries I found when googling "design dictionary".

I marvel at your creativity and thinkig so far outside the box, I can't even see La La Land anymore if I try to follow.

I shudder to think at any dictionary actually defining biology as evolution and chemistry as the origin of life.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: neoholographic

When someone starts moving the goal posts, to try and gain traction, I tend to doubt them. As per usual, you move the goal posts. You try to cloud the discussion, and you don't understand the science.

Talk to the science neo. If you can't there is the door.

Mutation is the vehicle of evolution.

Moving the goal post? You haven't made a thread yet that refutes anything I'm saying. You keep making these broad generalizations about nothing. You don't sound like a Postgraduate but a 7th grade student that knows nothing about Science.

This is because DARWINIST lack any common sense when it comes to Evolution because you have blind faith.

Why do you think Scientist are looking for the graviton? Why do you think Scientist are coming up with theories of quantum gravity?

It's not because they understand gravity it's because they don't understand it. They understand it enough to tell you how it works but their understanding of gravity can completely change because they don't have a complete understanding of gravity and how gravity is unified on a quantum and classical level. If they knew Origins, they would understand this but they don't and this why Scientist are looking for ways to explain this.

The same with Evolution. You will have an incomplete understanding of evolution without the Origin of Life.

You can find out the Origin of Life and discover it didn't originate on Earth and it originated when certain chemicals were brought together at a value that's fine tuned to 58 decimal places. Then you would know that mutations aren't random at all and variations can only occur within this small range set by the Origin of Life.

The point is, you have a VERY INCOMPLETE understanding of Evolution without the Origin of Life.

originally posted by: Noinden
A scientist investigates the data, not what "they want".

Who gathers the data then? The data-fairies?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

How's "satisfaction" gonna pay my bills?

If I'd of known all this I would have refused the job of government science shill.

a reply to: neoholographic

Have you got a peer reviewed paper to prove that origins of life needs a 100% accurate understanding before we can understand evolution?