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originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Are you willing to follow the teachings of Jesus where he said to give to him that asketh?
What's your motive there, Chester? It's not out of need...it's out of spite. It's also because you are backed in a corner and can't defend Paul logically. You are totally stuck, aren't you?
So, what did I say about 30 pages back? Christians have two responses to being challenged about Paul...
Fight or flight.
So, you want my house, my belongings, and whatever else? Seriously?
Dude, you don't know Jesus....you really, really, don't.
I already asked you earlier what I wanted.
originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor
a reply to: ChesterJohn
I already asked you earlier what I wanted.
So answer me this? WHY do you want everything I own? To prove a point? To get out of the corner you've been backed into and have no ability to refute all that has been pointed out to you?
You aren't asking out of need....you are asking to try and "put me in my place". Right?
Do you know that your demand does nothing but make you look like everything already pointed out on this thread, from those who see Paul as the shyster he is? Not to mention those who have done a far better job than me in showing it.
You have basically resorted to the same tactics that Paul used when challenged for his erroneous teachings regarding Jesus, by the true disciples of Jesus.
Can you not understand that when a man has to constantly say, "and I'm not LYING"...they are lying?? Why else would Paul have to defend himself in that manner?
You think that by demanding all of my livelihood (which would include taking away from my children), you are somehow proving a point? The only point you have made is that you follow
the "wolf in sheep's clothing" who "entered by a different door" and NEVER KNEW Jesus. He spoke from his own authority and attributed it to mysterious revelations that only he was privy to.
Yet, you take his word over the Savior you profess to follow....and you (out of your own mouth) have basically stated that you choose Paul's doctrine over the WORD'S of Jesus, because ....wait....let me guess, you would rather listen to Paul telling you that you are RIGHTEOUS just by believing and having faith, since it requires NOTHING of you. Right?
Hey, by the way....if you still need some cash, I will happily send it to you. You still haven't given me your address, though.
Oh, and just so you know....my 16 year old has strep throat and I have 60 dollars to my name (which isn't enough to take him to the doctor...since we have to pay out of pocket due to no insurance). I made that whole 60 cleaning today.
But Chester, I would happily send it to you if you absolutely need it.
Anything else?
originally posted by: SethTsaddik
originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor
a reply to: ChesterJohn
I already asked you earlier what I wanted.
So answer me this? WHY do you want everything I own? To prove a point? To get out of the corner you've been backed into and have no ability to refute all that has been pointed out to you?
You aren't asking out of need....you are asking to try and "put me in my place". Right?
Do you know that your demand does nothing but make you look like everything already pointed out on this thread, from those who see Paul as the shyster he is? Not to mention those who have done a far better job than me in showing it.
You have basically resorted to the same tactics that Paul used when challenged for his erroneous teachings regarding Jesus, by the true disciples of Jesus.
Can you not understand that when a man has to constantly say, "and I'm not LYING"...they are lying?? Why else would Paul have to defend himself in that manner?
You think that by demanding all of my livelihood (which would include taking away from my children), you are somehow proving a point? The only point you have made is that you follow
the "wolf in sheep's clothing" who "entered by a different door" and NEVER KNEW Jesus. He spoke from his own authority and attributed it to mysterious revelations that only he was privy to.
Yet, you take his word over the Savior you profess to follow....and you (out of your own mouth) have basically stated that you choose Paul's doctrine over the WORD'S of Jesus, because ....wait....let me guess, you would rather listen to Paul telling you that you are RIGHTEOUS just by believing and having faith, since it requires NOTHING of you. Right?
Hey, by the way....if you still need some cash, I will happily send it to you. You still haven't given me your address, though.
Oh, and just so you know....my 16 year old has strep throat and I have 60 dollars to my name (which isn't enough to take him to the doctor...since we have to pay out of pocket due to no insurance). I made that whole 60 cleaning today.
But Chester, I would happily send it to you if you absolutely need it.
Anything else?
DDD Damn.
That is how you meticulously put someone in their place. He won't express the umph felt, but he'll feel it.
Fet ready for some faith spewing ''I believe..." nonsense to deflect from the utter defeat ChesterJohn has experienced in this thread.
Unable to defend his wolf false prophet he makes it personal and starts asking unnecessary questions about your beliefs.
But the Bible is the best evidence that Paul is a false prophet and ChesterJohn knows it.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
to see if you are really truthful about following only the teachings of Jesus.
The verse that Jesus teaches says to give to him that asks. There is not qualification given. So there is no necessity of need.
I will explain the verse to you after you contact me to start your step of faith in what you believe.
You haven not taken the step up to prove you really are a follow of Jesus Only.
I believe all the Bible is about Jesus and is from God. You only believe in a small part of the Bible. Very minuscule once we eliminate all you have said you don't like in the bible and get it down to just the words of Jesus alone.
No I take all Gods word which include that which he gave to Paul.
So far you have not followed Jesus. You accuse me of not following the saviour but you have not even followed his teaching to give to him that asks and in its context there is not qualification for the person to ask. If there was He would have said to give to the poor that ask.
So once you can show by stepping out in faith and keeping Jesus words and that you love him by giving me what I asked for. If I made it easy for you then you might but this is a difficult one and you must determine to follow Jesus in this.
Like I said if your a right in ALL that you believe and have been teaching then Jesus will bless you abundantly. Step out I encourage you. I have done it many time and more recently and Jesus, Not Paul, supplied for me and mine. He has done this numerous times over the last 22 years.
Make your step and PM me and say openly on the thread you will give me what i asked.
I have told you it is not about need. I asked for it ad if you are a follower of Jesus words only then follow a way. If not then we have no reason to believe what you believe and say are true.
if you have been hearing anything I have said over the last 73 pages in this thread it is about study and see what God wants. Not what I want to do but what God wants me to do.
and it is right in its context to use when it is to be used and to be left when it is to be left.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
By the way Matrix when I saidif you have been hearing anything I have said over the last 73 pages in this thread it is about study and see what God wants. Not what I want to do but what God wants me to do.
and it is right in its context to use when it is to be used and to be left when it is to be left.
I do my best to study to show myself approved (am approved by what Jesus Christ has done for me), I have learned by Gods word how to study and rightly divide Gods word, this by the Holy Ghost who teaches by comparing spiritual things with spiritual. There are three groups of people in this world today. The Unsaved Jews, the unsaved Gentiles and the saved made up of both Jew and Gentile for Jesus has broken down that separation, so god will accept all men equally and that includes women. All are saved the same way by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ, he said it was finished on the cross before he gave up the ghost. There are three systems going but one is postponed. there is the system of the world ran by Satan and there is the system of God entrusted to Israel (postponed), and their is the church ran by Christ. The Bible tells us about all three. When things in scriptures agree with the church teachings given Paul via inspiration of God then they apply to us. When they do not agree but apply to Israel in the kingdom, they are not for the church today, If they do not agree and apply to the unsaved in the world then it is not for us but for the unsaved.
you find it all in the Bible
If you want to buy dog food try getting rid of your internet service and TV for starters. the money you save will be enough to feed the largest dog in the world, the Mastiff.
when you are poor you can get free doctors visits at most hospitals via the ER, just fill out a financial inability form they over view it and determine you are eligible and you owe nothing
Please my birth name is Chester John there is no brown in it
originally posted by: Padawan SethTsaddik
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
and get to be irresponsible and spend all my money on books
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: Padawan SethTsaddik
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
and get to be irresponsible and spend all my money on books
Padawan,
In what reality is buying books irresponsible?
Ohh thats right your having a dig at me cause i said im always reading a book on the other thread youngling.
Bait taken and devoured. Mmmm Num nums. 😋
Padawan, dont you buy holy books and stuff?
Yes, yes you do as you have said so yourself in more then one of your near 100 banned ATS accounts in the past 12 months alone.
I thought you said months ago you were set for life? Yes you did.
I said you were a Government welfare bludger living with mummy and/or daddy. Guess im right.
How about getting a job and stop being such a bludger Padawan. Contribute to society!!
As opposed to being an internet pest. 💩
Master Coomba
this is a work not for salvation but after salvation.
. . . dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
is not an expansion of the teaching of Jesus, "But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven . . For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also".
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.