Did Paul Invent Christianity?

This has been a relevant topic for.... ever?

Im going to be as vague as possible here to promote those that have the time to watch this video

And hopefully bore the hell out of those that haven't a clue about this topic

I am sorry, but said video is an hour long... and strictly from a Jewish perspective

A Man that was born into Judaism... Coverted Fully to Christianity

Then Found holes in the story, and returned to his roots

Sincerely

Devils Advocate

Invented it or corrupted it?

Shalom

a reply to: Akragon

the egyptians created the foundation of christianity. christians stole it the idea and called it christianity.

maybe look at Zeitgeist - greatest story ever told. good watch.

a reply to: Akragon

Sounds like this will be an interesting watch, thanks for sharing. No doubt this thread will rock a few boats. Should be a good thread as well. I'm sure you know how I like seeing the boat rocked, by now.



I'll let you know what I think after I've watched the video (which will be after I sleep).

Btw, there is a typo in your OP. I don't normally point those things out but for some reason that one keeps jumping out at me and catching my eye (Coverted). Sorry to be the grammar police!

a reply to: lSkrewloosel

Isn't a lot of Zeitgeist just bunk? I'm not saying Christianity (or the Israelites before them) wasn't influenced by, or took from, other cultures. Far from it. I'm just saying I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as that film makes it out to be. Sorry that I cannot point out which bits are (or may be) false within Zeitgeist. It has been a long time since I watched that film or any of its rebuttals.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Btw, there is a typo in your OP. I don't normally point those things out but for some reason that one keeps jumping out at me and catching my eye (Coverted). Sorry to be the grammar police!

shhhh....

you haven't converted yet

Read the hiram key, about the origins of freemasonry. Very good book and goes into great detail about the king making ritual and about how jesus studied and performed said rituals, also talks about paul and peter.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Zeitgesit needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Much of its religious discussion is unreliable. It's overarching principle is not far off, as far as the roots of X-tianity in Egypt etc., but some of its information and details on religious figures is overcooked and false to make its case.

Slow down my friends!!

Please refer to the OP and the video there in..


PLEASE watch the video...

a reply to: Akragon

My original transmission got cropped???

Here is a snippet about Paul from the tv series "Mysteries of the Bible"..

www.youtube.com...

Shalom Aleichem

Wow Ak pushing Gnosticism

Sounds like preaching to me, is that allowed here now

Ak knows I disagree, an hour of my time better spent chasing pokemon

a reply to: Raggedyman

brother....

as i have told you before

do not use words you do not know

dp

It's what most Christians practice besides the ten commandments.

a reply to: Akragon

You know I always thought people who had secrets were hiding something nefarious

I remember gnosisfaith and your close links with him, the demiurge YHWH thing you were always on about, did I misunderstand that?

Just figured, well you know, assumptions and all that

Hey I like Paul, think he was on target with what he said. We disagree, it's all good

before paul changed the sabbath to sunday and other sweeping reforms "christianity" was just a freestyle judaism

a reply to: Akragon

I haven't checked out your vid yet but will shortly I wanted to drop this interview as some of the history of early Christianity I found interesting and may be of some help in this thread .

In this second part of my conversation with Dr. Larry Hurtado about his book Destroyer of the gods: Early Christian Distinctiveness in the Roman World, we discuss the distinctive “bookishness” of early Christianity, their distinctive use of their scriptures, and early Bible translations. We also compare and contrast early Christian moral instruction with what was typical for their pagan contemporaries. Dr. Hurtado explains some interesting differences regarding different groups of people and sexual ethics. Finally, we discuss to what extent some of these distinctives were lost during the development of “Christendom,” and how present-day Christians’ place in contemporary Western societies compares to that of early Christians in the Roman Empire.

Paul preached a carnal gospel (Jesus dying on the cross forgiving sins; death is carnal) whereas Jesus preached a spiritual gospel (loves others, clean the inside of the cup and the outside will follow), so I would say that Paul did in fact invent the form of Christianity we see today. Jesus' words were easy to understand and to follow, Paul's are complicated and convoluted and cause confusion.

a reply to: dashen

When did Paul change the sabath, not heard of that

a reply to: Raggedyman

yes some say it's so
fact is as i have heard and read it was both paul and Constantine.

in Acts 20:7,

Acts 20:7New American Standard Bible (NASB)
7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his [a]message until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2New American Standard Bible (NASB)
2 On the first day of every week each one of you is to [a]put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

In the year 321 A.D., Constantine decreed, "On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed" (Codex Justinianus lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; trans. in Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, p. 380, note 1).

a reply to: Akragon

Great presentation. Thanks for sharing.

The speaker's points correlate with much of what i have read, and found myself. Many Christians don't like to admit it, but any serious research into the history of Jesus, and the early years of his sect, reveal the disparities between their Jewish teachings and those communicated by Paul.