Clinton team avoided ER to conceal details of her medical treatment

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

Except when it's candidates like John McCain, right?
Oh that's right he released over 2000 pages of PHI when the democrats made fun of the range of motion in his shoulders.

You'd have to take that up with the democrats.

I disliked McCain because of his policies.

Nice strawman though.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

With Hillary, who knows?

What business is it of yours?

If she wants my vote, I want to be sure I'm getting what she's advertising - someone who will be the Chief Executive for the next four years.

Now, it's one thing if something unforeseen happens that renders her incapable like a sudden catastrophe or out of the blue health incident like what happened with Harrison, but if she is intentionally concealing something that could jeopardize her ability to deliver what she is promising to be able to do, then that's fraud being perpetrated on the American voters who are looking to possibly hire her.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
What has been on my mind though is Black Majick.

Ummm...sorry there dude...This could only be intervention by the Light...

Chancellor Palpatine...erm...Hillery...is a minion of the dark side of the force...

You did know that.....................right...?

YouSir

I believe Our creator has better things to indulge in than interfere with Presidential elections with divinity.

Other forces thrive on this sort of stuff...
& no, personally I don't believe she is evil.

I believe she is a misguided Soul.
Everyone can find redemption.

The Dream Revealed to Daniel
…Daniel said, "Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever, For wisdom and power belong to Him. "It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding.

Maybe Hillary thought NYPD would escort her to jail where she belongs. Just think if she becomes president we will never see her live on TV again.... only to see staged recordings.

a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

So let me see
A prospective president faints and she isn't taken to a hospital
There is something wrong with that on its own

Even just as a precaution she would have gone to hospital, just in case there could have been an issue
Not going at all is indication that there is an issue, that there is truth to the rumors and she doesn't want to be seen in a hospital.
Deliberately avoiding the hospital when there was a need to go

a reply to: introvert

I will gladly extrapolate a response to your one line post:

Pneumonia at age 70 in many patients is a death sentence, and for women the mortality rate is 50-70% higher.
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Add to that the high physical, mental, and emotional highs and lows of being President of the United States, having a weakened immune system, and having no public confidence in you... Because you haven't released any medical records to prove otherwise. It's fair to assume that she is not fit for the Chair.

Also Hillary and Donald are ignoring some pretty established standards for taking Office. Disclosure. Absolutely every single president before these two candidates has done two things willingly and openly, despite what ever their other shortcomings may have been. They released their net worth financially with tax records, and the disclosed their medical history to the public.

Once you become a high profile political figure, and more to the point, POTUS, you have no privacy. Privacy exists only in your bedroom. And thats the way it should be. Citizens get to have privacy. Government officials and powerful positions of office need to be open and transparent.

And if you were curious about the medical records of all of our previous Presidents i urge you to read the 'Medical History of US Presidents'

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Yes. Yes i am pushing for him to release his medical records.

However, he hasn't taken a full blown header on the curb and avoided going to a hospital.

originally posted by: Puppylove
Already ignoring proper protocol and procedures when her life may very well be on the line, and this is the woman we want to be our president?

I agree. This doesn't look well for her with her past record of decision making.

She does seem to have trouble making simple basic choices. I really would hate to see how she will perform when the serious decisions need to be made.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Yeah
People who vote don't need to know if the candidate is of sound mind or sound body
Just say she is sick and her illness effects her mind over time

I understand supporting a political party, I don't understand supporting a person who is ill and lying about it

You only lie for one reason

a reply to: ketsuko

Based on HIPAA, wouldn't the details of any ER visit be protected from the public anyway?

Any doctor or nurse who would leak information is a total idiot, and would definitely be prosecuted for doing so (probably Killed, knowing the Clintons)

I work in a reputable hospital and HIPAA is something healthcare professionals know not to mess around with

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Plenty of people who don't trust him are demanding he release his tax returns. It's the same thing as this. They see reason to doubt something and they want more information to inform their vote.

Do you deny it?

Tax information is just as personal.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: MotherMayEye

No, but voters like to be informed and some have standards regarding the health of the POTUS

That refers to the shallowness I was talking about, especially when those medical "conditions" are rooted in conspiracy.

he campaign was deceptive and her handlers, without a doubt, appeared to be hiding a very serious medical issue rather than attending to it.

Please, doctor, tell us what medical issue that is.

She can serve with a serious medical condition that's being covered-up, but people don't have to vote for her if they believe or suspect that.

So your vote has nothing to do with policy? It's about the medical condition of the candidate?

I don't believe a word these candidates say about policy. I've always been burned relying on campaign promises. In Hillary's case, I very much supported her in 2008. There is much I like about what she says. BUT when I look at her character with the same criticism I looked at Bush's character, for example, I believe she has a long criminal past. That's my opinion and I had to step outside of my comfort zone to admit it.

I won't speculate on what caused Hillary to lose consciousness, yesterday. But I don't accept the word of her campaign or doctor, and I feel that is the best thing I can do to protect my trust.

But, you specifically asked me, "Please, doctor, tell us what medical issue that is."

I am not a doctor. But her medical issue is "passing out cold on a beautiful, temperate September morning" while no one paid to protect her did anything to protect her well-being.

They propped her against a post and someone held her up, then they dragged her into a van and took her to her daughter's condo without even knowing if she was suffering from a heart attack or aneurysm...for all these bodyguards and 'handlers' knew, she was dying. That would be what I was concerned about.

If there were no medical professionals in her entourage, then they took a huge risk diagnosing her as 'not worthy' of a hospital visit.

I don't believe the official story. It's too horrific to believe.

a reply to: AnonyMason

Pneumonia at age 70 in many patients is a death sentence, and for women the mortality rate is 50-70% higher.

Has she died yet?

and having no public confidence in you...

What does that have to do with health? Trumps favorability rating is lower than Clinton's. Does that affect his health?

Once you become a high profile political figure, and more to the point, POTUS, you have no privacy. Privacy exists only in your bedroom. And thats the way it should be. Citizens get to have privacy. Government officials and powerful positions of office need to be open and transparent.

They are citizens as well. Do they give-up their constitutional rights when they run for office?

originally posted by: AnonyMason

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Yes. Yes i am pushing for him to release his medical records.

However, he hasn't taken a full blown header on the curb and avoided going to a hospital.

If he did that, it would not be a factor for me.

Why is it a factor for you?

# happens. People get sick.

a reply to: introvert

My health is my business. Clinton's health is her business.

i don't want someone who is preoccupied with their health problems making declensions for me and mine. i don't care if their mind is sharp or not, and for all those that say FDR, the man was so vain that he did his best to hide his health problems.
and he is by far the worst president we ever had.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Plenty of people who don't trust him are demanding he release his tax returns. It's the same thing as this. They see reason to doubt something and they want more information to inform their vote.

Do you deny it?

Tax information is just as personal.

It is personal. I'm not asking for it.

Why are you asking for people's personal info to be released?

Of course she avoided a paper trail. She has the money for her own personal team of highly trained doctors. I'm sure 100% of her checkups, surgeries and otherwise, are done behind closed doors in the friendly confines of one of the Clinton safe houses.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: ketsuko

Based on HIPAA, wouldn't the details of any ER visit be protected from the public anyway?

Any doctor or nurse who would leak information is a total idiot, and would definitely be prosecuted for doing so (probably Killed, knowing the Clintons)

I work in a reputable hospital and HIPAA is something healthcare professionals know not to mess around with

It is, but remember the only thing enforcing HIPAA is just personal integrity in the end.

Sure they can go after you if they discover you leaked the information, but consider, if Hillary really did have a serious illness like Parkinsons and was concealing it, would any leaker be liable for prosecution or considered a whistle blower?

But let's also be honest with the source too. This only quotes anonymous sources, so it's possible this is just wild rumor.

But it has the quality of thick smoke over a fire given the usual way these incidents are handled with people of Mrs. Clinton's status.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Trump could potentially be hiding something as well. Are you pushing for him to release his medical records?

I'm not. I'm judging him on his ideas.

His health, and the health of Clinton, are their business.

You only being defrauded by your own shallowness.

Plenty of people who don't trust him are demanding he release his tax returns. It's the same thing as this. They see reason to doubt something and they want more information to inform their vote.

Do you deny it?

Tax information is just as personal.

It is personal. I'm not asking for it.

Why are you asking for people's personal info to be released?

I don't think this post is at all about that. The closest is saying that they avoided an ER to avoid having details leaked.

I am merely pointing out why such a move would be politic at this point. Since I am never going to vote for her anyhow, what she does with her medical records is academic as far as I'm concerned.