WTF? Chelsea's Apt. Has Same Address as a Medical Facility!--Hillary's Secret Hospital?

a reply to: IAMTAT

People Magazine?

LOL ... okay.

Well, as the article you linked clearly notes, the "bug" that was going around is not the same as pneumonia. It was an "upper respiratory" problem. As noted many of those illnesses are very contagious at certain points; pnuemonia is not.

According to Dr. Bardack's letter, Clinton probably came down with "the bug" around Sept. 2, and by Sept. 9th she had contracted pneumonia.

There's no indication even in the People article that anyone else in the campaign developed pneumonia.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMTAT

People Magazine?

LOL ... okay.

Well, as the article you linked clearly notes, the "bug" that was going around is not the same as pneumonia. It was an "upper respiratory" problem. As noted many of those illnesses are very contagious at certain points; pnuemonia is not.

According to Dr. Bardack's letter, Clinton probably came down with "the bug" around Sept. 2, and by Sept. 9th she had contracted pneumonia.

There's no indication even in the People article that anyone else in the campaign developed pneumonia.

Maybe 'The Bug'...is really the "Flu" Bill Clinton say's Hillary has.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMTAT

People Magazine?

LOL ... okay.

Well, as the article you linked clearly notes, the "bug" that was going around is not the same as pneumonia. It was an "upper respiratory" problem. As noted many of those illnesses are very contagious at certain points; pnuemonia is not.

According to Dr. Bardack's letter, Clinton probably came down with "the bug" around Sept. 2, and by Sept. 9th she had contracted pneumonia.

There's no indication even in the People article that anyone else in the campaign developed pneumonia.

Maybe 'The Bug'...is really the "Flu" Bill Clinton say's Hillary has.

I don't remember what part of the country you're from, but down here (and I'm sure in Arkansas) "the flu" is a kinda generic term for "serious illness that makes you feel really bad." For example, we also have stomach flu, summer flu, winter flu, etc.

I'm really not interested in merely trading snark with you IAMTAT, on this one, as much as I usually enjoy jousting with you. It is my understanding that a highly contagious upper respiratory ailment went around the Clinton offices early in September. In Hillary's case, that developed into pneumonia (which can be caused by a number of "vectors.")

I simply wondered if you had information indicating that other staffers had pneumonia. You don't. Thanks.

a reply to: carewemust

Boy that was scripted perfectly wasn't it.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: carewemust

Chelsea was there. Her words from an interview today... (Wed 9.14.2016)


“Well, I, I didn’t see the video, but my mom did come over to my apartment afterwards and I’m just so grateful that I got a chance to take care of her for a little while. She’s taken care of me my whole life and she’s just indefatigable.........."

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

She hasn't seen that video!!! Then she does the whole "my mom's the bestest human on the planet" thing. But, she hasn't bothered to look at the event that brought her there!

Chelsea is strange.

Chelsea spoke during that interview like she's still learning how to be a smooth liar, like her Mom and Dad. I wish we had people here who knew how to analyze Chelsea's video more professionally.

Chelsea never turns loose of that weird robotic smile. It is as if she has no human emotions. At the DNC, I found it really odd how she avoided her Dad. When he was dozing off, you would think she would lean in and gently whisper to him or affectionately touch his arm or something. She seemed to avoid him like the plague.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I have spent a fair number of hours looking into Metrocare. I want to share where I was ultimately led…

..to this interesting article from the New York Times, from 2007:

Link to NYT

ALBANY, Aug. 20 — Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo issued subpoenas on Monday to dozens of agencies that provide home health care aides to Medicaid patients in the New York City area, saying preliminary evidence suggested that the home aide industry was rife with fraud.

Fifty-nine such agencies were sent the subpoenas, representing nearly all of those operating in the metropolitan region. The subpoenas mark the latest stage of a two-year investigation into the industry, begun under Mr. Cuomo’s predecessor, Gov. Eliot Spitzer. That investigation has until now focused primarily on schools that train and certify the aides, and on vendors who contract the aides’ services out to the agencies.

I am getting a whiff of something VERY stinky.

I could not possibly take you guys through every path I followed today, but this is a rough path….

I first noticed that ‘Reliable Community Care’ shares an address (at least in the same building) with Metrocare, at 160 Broadway, 16th Floor NY, NY 10038.

I thought it a coincidence worth noting and began to pay more attention to other home healthcare staffing and training businesses that coincided with my path looking into Metrocare, in curious ways.

AND, I came across, Transcare, which happened to donate money to the *curious* Solutions America PAC on the same day and back-to-back with three of Metrocare’s employees. (See the FEC individual contributors database. Search for ‘metrocare’ and ‘transcare’, as employers, in the advance search.) Both are listed on the same page and back-to-back. Another curious coincidence -- to me, anyway.

And through researching Transcare I came across a DOJ Medicare false filings claim:

pdf download here

AND, one of their employees founded yet another home health care business -- and he seemed very interesting…

Revival Home Health Care
Owner: STEVE SHLOMO ZAKHEIM:

Obit

From his obit:

“Zakheim founded Metropolitan Ambulance, an ambulance and medical transport business, and owned Revival Home Health Care. ”

“He also took on many causes, such as personally visiting and advocating for Jonathan Pollard, Robert Manning, and other Jewish prisoners, and treating people near ground zero after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.”

***

It seems a very interesting rabbit hole to follow for any good researchers that are interested. Something is, indeed, odd about the home healthcare businesses in NYC.

I have more thoughts, too, if anyone is really interested.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT

I have spent a fair number of hours looking into Metrocare. I want to share where I was ultimately led…

..to this interesting article from the New York Times, from 2007:

Link to NYT

ALBANY, Aug. 20 — Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo issued subpoenas on Monday to dozens of agencies that provide home health care aides to Medicaid patients in the New York City area, saying preliminary evidence suggested that the home aide industry was rife with fraud.

Fifty-nine such agencies were sent the subpoenas, representing nearly all of those operating in the metropolitan region. The subpoenas mark the latest stage of a two-year investigation into the industry, begun under Mr. Cuomo’s predecessor, Gov. Eliot Spitzer. That investigation has until now focused primarily on schools that train and certify the aides, and on vendors who contract the aides’ services out to the agencies.

I am getting a whiff of something VERY stinky.

Let me just say, after spending a good time researching Metrocare today, I cannot find any compelling evidence that Metrocare has actually operated in such a lucrative way as to justify being able to afford the property at Chelsea's condo address.

No reviews. No testimonials. I would expect to see something.

...Unless they are just one of the "nearly all" home healthcare providers operating in the NYC metro area by "filing false claims with Medicare."

And if they are...why are they associated with the address of Chelsea's condo?

I cannot help but wonder if they are a front organization...for intelligence....mafia?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

By the above comment, I mean that there seems to be a possible/reasonable/likely connection between these fraudulent home healthcare providers operating in metro-NYC. So I am thinking there could just be a larger enterprise that organizes them. RICO.

And big.

59....nearly ALL...in metro NYC? Eliot Sptizer was investigating?

RICO.

59 of them.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wow...yes, I think Healthcare fraud is a possibility.
A bunch of pages back, I linked to a CNN article (also from around 2007) suggesting the exact same thing.

I remember, earlier in the thread, someone posted a government 'unclaimed funds' alert to Metrocare.
THIS also is a technique law enforcement uses to find fugitives.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wow...yes, I think Healthcare fraud is a possibility.
A bunch of pages back, I linked to a CNN article (also from around 2007) suggesting the exact same thing.

I remember, earlier in the thread, someone posted a government 'unclaimed funds' alert to Metrocare.
THIS also is a technique law enforcement uses to find fugitives.

Seems someone tried to post a court case from plainsite that would not download...I need to go back and look for that.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

HERE is the CNN article I posted about this a ways back:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

FYI:
Confirmation the building was purchased from the Plumbers Local Union:
www.yelp.co.uk...

Odd, actually that they still list the address too.
Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that retail kitchen showroom Arclinea still occupies the first floor.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: MotherMayEye

By the above comment, I mean that there seems to be a possible/reasonable/likely connection between these fraudulent home healthcare providers operating in metro-NYC. So I am thinking there could just be a larger enterprise that organizes them. RICO.

And big.

59....nearly ALL...in metro NYC? Eliot Sptizer was investigating?

RICO.

59 of them.

Mafia? Unions?...in NYC, is there any difference?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

To the one we are interested in in this thread, MetroCare:

METROCARE HOME SERVICES, INC.
Organization Subpart: NO

Organization NPI: 1750597084

Calendar Last Updated: 2007-07-09
Details
Name Value
NPI 1750597084
Enumeration Date 2007-05-15
NPI Type 2- Organization
Status Active

HHS.gov

We have had members call and verify that it is still in business, but has anyone been able to find the new business address?

According to the hhs.gov site, their National Provider Identifier (NPI) # is still active, though it still lists the address we have for Chelsea's apartment. They are indeed set up to accept Medicaid funds.

This shows they closed in 2008:

Metrocare Home Services
21 East 26th Street
New York
NY
10010­
(212)689-7000
06/28/1993
07/09/2008

This shows a new address:

Home Care (Licensed); HHA/PCA/Escort/Housekeeping; Occupational Therapy; Physical Therapy; Speech Therapy; Registered Nurse Licensed Home Care Metrocare Givers Inc. 160 Broadway Suite 905 New York New York NY 10038 212-689-7000 24 Hours N/A English and Spanish

direct .xls link

Googling that address gives some odd results; Asian Skin Care LLC, ISIS Staffing Solutions Inc., for example.

Why is all of this jumbled up like this?

If the business (MetroCare) is no longer open, why is it's NPI # still active? And didn't a couple of members call them and confirm they were still in business, just at a different location?

a reply to: IAMTAT



This method of Medicare fraud is super-interesting.

It looks like a very big ring and like a lot of money is/was being taken in.

Sptizer was the attorney general investigating. Elected governor, investigation transferred to Cuomo...THEN he was taken down in scandal.

I wonder if Cuomo kept tight control of the reach of investigation after he took over?

Italian-American doctor? Italian-American Democrat Senator? Plumbers Union? Possible Healthcare fraud? Hillary & Bill Clinton?...I wonder what could possibly connect all of these players.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Introvert called some of the numbers...and in one call, he said they verified the 21 E.26th. St. address.

a reply to: MotherMayEye


Medicaid and Medicare fraud is rampant. Home Health services are evidently easy to use for kickbacks. Dirty politicians that have access to records could make a killing!! Maybe they do.

Here's an interesting link. I haven't thoroughly evaluated it yet.
oig.hhs.gov...

The Whitman is a six-story building at 21 East 26th Street across from Madison Square Park that was converted to four large condominium apartments in 2013 by David Mitchell of Mitchell Holdings LLC.

The very handsome building, which extends through the block to 27th Street, was erected in 1924 and was a former showroom building. Mitchell Holdings acquired it in 2011 from Plumbers’ Local 1 for about $13 million.

Mr. Mitchell is managing partner since 2004 of Las Vegas Land Partners LLC, a development firm that is building with Forest City Enterprises the City of Las Vegas Civic Center that includes a new City Hall and a Transportation Center.

He has also built and owns more than 1,000 rental apartments in Las Vegas and his other New York projects include 21 East 22nd Street and 183 Columbia Heights in Brooklyn.

www.cityrealty.com...

Apparently, THE NYC Plumber's Union was quite notorious.
Metrocare opened in 1988 under Savino.
THIS scandal took place between '83 and '93.

Ex-Plumbers' Union Officials Guilty in Extortion

Four former officials of Plumbers Local 2, a powerful construction union in the New York City area, pleaded guilty yesterday to state charges of extorting payoffs from contractors for sweetheart deals.

The 4 were in a group of 10 officials who were indicted three years ago in Manhattan on charges that they engaged in a conspiracy with organized-crime figures for bribes totaling about $1 million from 1983 to 1993.

www.nytimes.com...