WTF? Chelsea's Apt. Has Same Address as a Medical Facility!--Hillary's Secret Hospital?

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Hey JandC, you have been busy lately with your researching I see. (Something I miss around ATS in general.)

I have watched that video a few times now and can't find the usual personal assistant (lady with dark hair) and big black (Dr?) man that is usually attached to Hill's hip. We know they were with her when she departed for the appt. (during the fainting episode). Surely they would have remained there with here and then departed again with her.

I was convinced that wasn't a body double until I realized those key people were missing from her side....

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Xcathdra

I'm not sold on the whole body double thing it's just a different medical condition

I can buy that.

Pneumonia is very convenient since she is traveling a lot and has an intense schedule. And, on cue, we started getting stories of other campaign staffers getting pneumonia too. She herself even name dropped Charles Schumer having it.

So yeah, they may well rather the public think it's pneumonia for sympathy reasons than whatever it might really be.

My kid had pneumonia in February - a healthy, fit teen, and he was flat on his back for a five days straight. There was no "bounce back".

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

HMMMMMM....

They're around, but where's her usual "handler"???

Yes where's the "Handler" and where is the "Doctor" ?

Probably still with the real Hillary at bedside.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

HMMMMMM....

They're around, but where's her usual "handler"???

Yes where's the "Handler" and where is the "Doctor" ?

Probably still with the real Hillary at bedside.

X...THAT is one of the most curious things about her emergence from Chelsea's pad.

a reply to: Doodle19815

Yep, I thought it odd how 'out in the open' she was when I was watching Skreli's periscope of her exiting the apartment.

Here is a thread I made not too long after this dedicated to the body double idea. I mentioned it in an offhand way when I originally posted about the periscope feed and then another member mentioned that it should be a thread of it's own.

A good amount of research there too by several other members.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Doodle19815

Yep, I thought it odd how 'out in the open' she was when I was watching Skreli's periscope of her exiting the apartment.

It's not just that she was not being closely protected by the SS...no one was near her to help if she suddenly got *dizzy* again.

It's like they knew that wasn't a concern. But it should have been a concern because she didn't suddenly not have *ahem* pneumonia anymore.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: IAMTAT

It could be a Possibility , but unless more information is Leaked about it , I doubt it will be Scrutinize further .

What's truly scary about all this, is that we even have to speculate about these kinds of things. They lie every time they open their mouth. Geez. Just look at the Bill Clinton video that was edited to take out 'Hillary often, er, I mean rarely...'.

That dichotomey (often/rarely) is so typical of these two! You almost have to hire a psychiatrist to interpret what they're really saying. Or a comedian to interpret the opposite of what they're saying, which is probably closer to the truth.

SMH. How anyone could want this kind of corruption and evil in the office of the president is beyond me. But then, we elected the Bushes, and Billy boy, and Obama, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

HMMMMMM....

They're around, but where's her usual "handler"???

Yes where's the "Handler" and where is the "Doctor" ?

Probably still with the real Hillary at bedside.

X...THAT is one of the most curious things about her emergence from Chelsea's pad.

To me, the most curious thing we the child photo op. I mean, how stupid do they think we must be if they announce she has pneumonia, and then in the next breath, does a photo op with her breathing on an innocent 5 year old! My G-d, TBTB are freaking arrogant...

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Vroomfondel


the thing medical narcotics can accomplish these days...

If it was a pain related issue, that would almost make sense. But not for pneumonia.

Well, that's the thing. She doesn't HAVE pneumonia, because if she did, there's no freaking way they'd have let her do a photo op with a 6 year old child. Of course, what probably happened is they got the photo op planned, and did it, and then a separate group of sheeple for Hillary came up with the 'oh, she's got a case of pneumonia'. Anyone who believes ANYTHING out of a mouth of a politician these days, especially one of the Clintons! needs to wake up and see what's really going on around them...

originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Vroomfondel


the thing medical narcotics can accomplish these days...

If it was a pain related issue, that would almost make sense. But not for pneumonia.

Well, that's the thing. She doesn't HAVE pneumonia, because if she did, there's no freaking way they'd have let her do a photo op with a 6 year old child. Of course, what probably happened is they got the photo op planned, and did it, and then a separate group of sheeple for Hillary came up with the 'oh, she's got a case of pneumonia'. Anyone who believes ANYTHING out of a mouth of a politician these days, especially one of the Clintons! needs to wake up and see what's really going on around them...

The only reason I can think of in letting that child so close to this sick woman is that the little girl may have had the pneumococcal vaccine, or else the kind of pneumonia Hillary has is not catchy. You would think Hillary herself would have had the vaccine for the catchy kind. But, then again, George Bush Sr. has had pneumonia in the past, too. Guess he didn't get the vaccine either, or it was a strain that can't be vaccinated against.

Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV13) is recommended for all children younger than 5 years old, all adults 65 years or older, and people 6 years or older with certain risk factors. Pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine (PPSV23) is recommended for all adults 65 years or older.May 27, 2016

a reply to: djz3ro

The reason this seems so insane is that it doesn't matter which of these gargantuan characters wins, the world loses yet millions of you are backing each side. We don't get a huge amount of info about the independents over here so I may be wrong when I say that the two (i think) independent candidates would be much better than the two main ones.

I would like to respond to this, even though I know that I am risking it being removed for being off topic; because I agree with you totally.

I think we have been so conditioned and programed to believe that we have no choice, that we don't take advantage of an alternate choice when it is presented.

They have convinced the majority that they either have to vote for Hillary or Trump. Even though most Americans don't want either.

Most Americans have been lead to believe that they are throwing their votes away if they don't vote for one of the two people they are shoving down our throats. This is an opportunity to shut this madness down. If we don't believe anything else they are telling us. Why in the hell are we believing this?

The majority has to stand up and do the unexpected. They need to decide who really is the lesser of the two evils, and I say, that doesn't include the red pill "or" the blue pill.

We have a choice. We need to choose one. Anyone but Hillary or Trump, and vote in the one that they would hate to see in the position the most.

We need to let them see us pull a rabbit out of the rabbit hole.

Back on topic. I think that Fred T has hit the nail on the head. The whole practice of concierge medical care is alive and well. It is just fairly well hidden. Most of your private hospitals, and some of the not so private hospitals, have a VIP wing or suite. Of course, us common folks are not allowed in those areas, so you would never know they exist.

Money really can buy just about anything. If you have enough of it.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
We have a choice. We need to choose one. Anyone but Hillary or Trump, and vote in the one that they would hate to see in the position the most.

It's hard to get away from the Clintons even looking outside the two parties. For example, Johnson's running mate, Bill Weld, is just another Clinton/Bush family crime-crony that goes back to Iran-Contra and the CIA drug/gun running out of the Mena Arkansas airpot.

See this succinct summary from a piece in the Washington Weekly, in 1997: link

They seem to have blocked most, if not all, of the doors.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Ok, well I finally found the name behind Osgood Hutchinson LLC: Max Whatmore.

“OSGOOD HUTCHINSON, LLC, MAX WHATMORE, 441 EASTOVER RD”

Download to an excel doc with that info here: Link

The UK connection is this:

Max Whatmore, head of fixed-income derivative trading at Merrill Lynch in London...

Link 1

Link 2

I assume this is probably Susan Whatmore’s husband? I don’t know if any of it is important to the story, but I figured I should add this info.


ETA: I also saw that Susan Whatmore donated $2700, to Hillary for President, in 2015, as well, while poking around. So she's a longtime supporter and donor.

originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Vroomfondel


the thing medical narcotics can accomplish these days...

If it was a pain related issue, that would almost make sense. But not for pneumonia.

Well, that's the thing. She doesn't HAVE pneumonia, because if she did, there's no freaking way they'd have let her do a photo op with a 6 year old child. Of course, what probably happened is they got the photo op planned, and did it, and then a separate group of sheeple for Hillary came up with the 'oh, she's got a case of pneumonia'. Anyone who believes ANYTHING out of a mouth of a politician these days, especially one of the Clintons! needs to wake up and see what's really going on around them...

I hear you and I agree. I think the idea of pneumonia as the cause of her problems is pretty lame. Her rapid short term recovery, the photo op with the little girl, etc.

What I am stuck on is that whatever it was had to be relatively serious to have her collapse the way she did waiting for her car. She didn't stumble as the press reported. She would have dropped like a rock face down in the gutter had it not been for the secret service guys that had her under the arms on both sides. At first she wobbles a bit, then her head and body slump down, her elbows and shoulders are elevated due to the people holding her up by the arms, her feet are dragging across the pavement which pulls her shoe off, and so on. Either she was unconscious or she lost all motor control.

There are a million and one things it could have been. Whatever it was, it was bad. I just have a hard time believing that the person seen leaving the apartment was really her. It is hard to imagine someone her age and general condition making a recovery that fast from anything that could have dropper her like a hot rock on the pavement.

originally posted by: kosmicjack

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Xcathdra

I'm not sold on the whole body double thing it's just a different medical condition

I can buy that.

Pneumonia is very convenient since she is traveling a lot and has an intense schedule. And, on cue, we started getting stories of other campaign staffers getting pneumonia too. She herself even name dropped Charles Schumer having it.

The likely scenario is that she has pneumonia but it was not serious, which is why she was campaigning nonetheless.

Her fainting was therefore due to something else, which could be rapidly recovered from, such as a seizure. Depending on the cause, this might or might not be cognitively significant.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think it may be important...at least in an ancillary manner.
Osgood Hutchinson LLC bought Chelsea's old condo...held it and flipped it for $1.25M more, two years later when Chelsea's new place was ready to move in.
They are Hillary supporters and connected to Merrill Lynch.

My suspicions also tell me that they are heavily involved with Parkinson's Disease charities...as their LLC name suggests.
There is more to be found through their connections to Hillary Clinton...I'm almost certain.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Both you and MME deserve applause for this information. I think you are probably on the right track with this especially with the information being released in the new DNC email links which show the Clinton Foundation's interest in Parkinson's research.

Kudos to you both!

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks, J&C.

BTW, Susan is young enough to be Max's daughter, maybe not his wife..or she is just his 30+ years, younger wife.

However, I found she may have been known as "Susan Poole," too, and residing with Charles G. Poole III and Gray Poole, too, at the same NC address.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks, J&C.

BTW, Susan is young enough to be Max's daughter, maybe not his wife..or she is just his 35+ years, younger wife.

However, I found she may have been known as "Susan Poole," too, and residing with Charles G. Poole III and Gray Poole, too, at the same NC address.

Did anyone ever find out what happened with the A. Moise? I dead ended at the unclaimed money website.

I know it looks like they dropped the suit when she was a no show in the court. So why is there unclaimed money showing up on an unclaimed money web site?

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I haven't looked into that person. I am admittedly crappy about reading long threads thoroughly, can you point me to where the name came up?


ETA: Also I edited my previous comment to 30+, not 35+. I am thinking, from what I've found, that Susan is around 55 and Max is around 87...and that my basic math skills are lacking.