Trump Lies About Supporting Iraq War

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DanDanDat
So in some morning radio show; when he was their to shoot the breeze with a guy who aske's his guests if he can smell their fingers... when asked "do you support the war" he answers with the most unenthusiastic "I guess so" I ever heard and this some how puts him on part with Clinton who actually voted to go to war in Iraq?

Hillary Clinton admitted she made a mistake.

Trump denies ever supporting the Iraq War...which is a lie.

Did she say she is taking responsibility for her mistake?

Yep, she sure did.

www.washingtonpost.com...:10369549

CLINTON: Look, I think that the decision to go to war in Iraq was a mistake. And I have said that my voting to give President Bush that authority was, from my perspective, my mistake. I also believe that it is imperative that we learn from the mistakes, like after- action reports are supposed to do, and so we must learn what led us down that path so that it never happens again.

Is that better than a lie?

Yes, taking responsibility for your actions is better than continuing to lie about your past statements/positions.

a reply to: Puppylove

As another member so kindly pointed out...you are conveniently leaving out the "YEAH" before the "I guess so".

Last I checked..."Yeah" means...Yeah.

So your whole argument, if you can call it that, is based on your false premise of him answering "I guess so".

It was a good try Trump supporter, but it's hard to defend a liar when the facts are right there proving he is a liar.

a reply to: kruphix

It was a good try Trump supporter, but it's hard to defend a liar when the facts are right there proving he is a liar.

Is this a universal statement? I mean does it apply to anyone?

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: DanDanDat

How could you "forget" that you were for a war that lasted a decade???

He's a liar.

How can you forget you signed 2 NDA's when you started a new job?

How can you forget 4 of your people died in Benghazi? Which is in Libya, btw.

lol!!

a reply to: kruphix

I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm anti-Hillary, Pro Stein.

I don't want either in, but I want Trump in before Hillary, because I refuse to allow the elite to get away with ignoring the law and flaunting their double standards for us all to see.

At best here, you have the weakest most pathetic lie of all time in the form of a wishy washy sorta support in a single interview with a shock jock in comparison to Hillary lying to us, the FBI, Congress, and showing literally no respect for the security of our country.

Preventing Hillary getting the presidency is a matter of principle. If we let them get away with putting her in, we've pretty much set the precedent the elite can do whatever the # they want and we'll let them get away with it.

originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: Puppylove

It's a lie, I love the mental gymnastics though.

I honestly don't care what affirmative statement he used, instead of "I guess so", he could have said "sure", "why not", or "hell yes"...they are all affirmative answers to a very direct straight forward question.

A weak lie is still a lie, is it not?

The fact that you feel the need to defend him is laughable, supposedly because you aren't even voting for him.

Ok, you asked me if you can slap me.

I said, I guess so BUT I'll blow your head off if you do.

When Trump said, "I guess so" he had a BUT in there.



Dad; "Do you know what you did was wrong?"

Kid, "I guess so but Colin Powell did it too"

a reply to: Puppylove

Trump is trying to make his "judgement" on the Iraq War a cornerstone of his foreign policy experience...which is laughable in itself.

But this is why this lie of his is important. You can rant about it being a "weak lie", if that makes you feel better...sure. But it's a lie, it's a lie that has a recording as proof, and he continues to lie about it instead of just coming clean.

Let's just stop the games, you are a Trump supporter. Claiming you are "pro-stein" doesn't give you any extra credibility...it's an old game that is played, but you don't play it very well.

Maybe try masking your die hard Trump support with a little more pro-stein support...because right now you appear to be one of the top Trump supporters/defenders/apologists on this site.

a reply to: kruphix

I'm one of the most die hard anti-Hillary people on this site. Enemy of my enemy. You've heard of that, right?

The sad truth is, Stein has no chance. So the only real chance I have to destroy Hillary is to help Trump. But the second Hillary is removed as a candidate, Trump can go # himself. I was a die hard Bernie supporter long before I ever defended Trump on a single thing.

If Hillary was losing and I felt confident of that, I'd love to go back to supporting 3rd party exclusively. I've gotten in plenty of arguments with my Dad a die hard Trump supporter because of my intention to support 3rd party.

One of the things pissing me off most is I'm in Ohio a swing state. Which also has Stein on the ballot. So I'm stuck having to consider selling out my ideals and support Trump, because you #tards refuse to see Hillary for what she is, and come join Stein someone who actually does give a # about most of the things you and I do, without giving lip service to them, or selling out our nation to the highest bidder.

I've never voted Right in my life, I'm damn near a socialist, but people like you are damn near forcing me to, because it's the only way to defend my country from a traitor taking the highest office in the land.

Everyday on here I have to sell out my ideals more and more to defend Trump because that's the only way to beat Hillary. I'm beyond frustrated by this election. If I wasn't so damn committed to making sure Hillary doesn't get elected I'd happily write this whole #ing election off. I have enough stress in my life, I don't need this #. But I actually give a # about things, and honest and truly believe that letting Hillary get elected sets the worst possible precedent we can.

a reply to: kruphix

I cannot see how "Yeah, I guess so" can be considered as support for a war.

"Do you support UNICEF?"

"Yeah, I guess so."

"Do you support human rights?"

"Yeah, I guess so."

"Do you support your wife?"

"Yeah, I guess so."

That's some solid support there. Bravo.

a reply to: Puppylove

So you support Trump because you hate Hillary...but you still support Trump.

I'm betting you will vote for Trump...but looking at the polls...it still won't matter.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It sure as hell isn't being opposed to it...which is what Trump claims.

a reply to: kruphix

Thanks to people that support traitors to this countries laws as president, yeah I'll probably have to sell out my ideals for the greater good.

Thanks for that, go you.

a reply to: kruphix

This was months and months before the war even started. Human beings tend to change their minds as new information presents itself. It doesn't even sound like he thought about it at all, and we didn't even get to hear what else he said because the clip is quote-mined out of its context.

One thing is for certain, taking a "Yeah, I guess so" from a 15 second clip as evidence of support for a war just doesn't happen in the real world— except for on the anti-Trump show, of course.

He was a private citizen who changed his opinion as new information became available.

The documented evidence shows he wasmore against it than for it.

He had no authority to declare war or commit troops.

He is not responsible in any way shape or form like Hillary is.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: kruphix

Thanks to people that support traitors to this countries laws as president, yeah I'll probably have to sell out my ideals for the greater good.

Thanks for that, go you.

You are responsible for your own actions.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: kruphix

This was months and months before the war even started. Human beings tend to change their minds as new information presents itself.

I'm all for that, but Trump doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for his initial position.

That is where the lie comes in...he is continuing to lie about his initial position on the Iraq War.

It's pretty cut and dry.

a reply to: kruphix

Yes, yes I am.

And same as I wouldn't sit back and do nothing while someone tries to abduct a child, I won't just sit back and do nothing while you and your ilk sell out our country.

a reply to: kruphix

It's said that Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards and in high heels. Hillary Clinton has done everything Trump did, but as an elected official and under oath. Just as remarkable considering she is somehow a viable candidate.

Is everybody forgetting that public servants take an oath? I was a lowly inspector and I took an oath. I actually took it seriously. Silly me. Had I taken bribes and set up a charity I could be running for President instead of still just maintaining my oath and making a median wage.

Somehow all the people in congress get rich. %100 of them. Odd, every single one of them becomes a multi-millionaire earning 250k... Nothing suspicious there.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: kruphix

Yes, yes I am.

And same as I wouldn't sit back and do nothing while someone tries to abduct a child, I won't just sit back and do nothing while you and your ilk sell out our country.

You said you were a Bernie supporter...but now you are supporting Trump.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

At least I'm honest about my support, and can back it up with agreement on policy. I sleep well knowing that I'm not betraying my conscience or my beliefs.

a reply to: kruphix

I'm against the PTB and their wishes and/or desires. I'm against criminals that flaunt our laws and get away with breaking them simply due to their status. I'm against political mercenaries who have literally zero loyalty to their policies or we citizens, and instead are owned 100% by special interests. I'm against people who either disregard our national security or are too damn stupid to be entrusted with such. (choose whichever version of Hillary you prefer)

I supported Bernie because he was against all these things too, sadly he was #ed over. I'm going to stick to being against those things. Bernie only supported Hillary because in order to run on the democratic ticket he had to agree to support whichever candidate won in the end.

I'm not restricted like he is. So I can continue to be against all those things. Hillary is the embodiment of all that is wrong in Washington. Her policies don't matter because she doesn't believe in or care about a single one. They are there for one reason, to convince idiots to vote for her so she can do whatever her masters tell her to do.

Stein actually stands by and believes in all her policies. I wish she could get in, I wish she was the liberal front runner. She'd make a great first woman president. One with actual integrity. But she can't because you all would rather support the PTB's puppet instead.

I'm not for Trump, I don't agree with most of his policies. But at least he's not corruption incarnate and isn't flaunting his ability to piss all over our laws and national security in our faces.

Unlike you I wouldn't be able to sleep at night simply because someone lies and tells me they don't intend to kill my pets, even if I know they intend to do just that soon as I close my eyes.