Bill Clinton says 'Make America Great Again' is racist

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: introvert

Well, she said it, and used the promise Make America Great Again.

So by your definition, she is racist.

Ah yes but you missed the all important 'context' and the party she is affiliated to.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Context is everything. If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting jobs, infrastructure, equal rights for everyone and a living wage - then it isn't related to anything racist.

If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting ripping 11 million undocumented immigrants out of their homes, banning anyone who worships Islam from coming into the country, and claiming you subscribe to a hard-ass cop who says he knows how to get rid of the Chicago "black problem" in 10 days.... well.....

Exactly. This issue is all about context.

Seems that such a simple concept is hard to digest.

Seems like an even simpler concept like a campaign slogan is also hard to digest.
What was the contextual difference between Reagan's campaign slogan and Trump's campaign slogan?

Campaign policy ideals and rhetoric.

a reply to: introvert

I seem to remember that Clinton was fairly popular too, so perhaps if it appealed to "those people" today, the same thing appealed to "those people" then and they voted for Clinton?

a reply to: awareness10

Lol, it's perfect. Mario is the epitome of equality... but we can still label him as a misogynist.

originally posted by: introvert
Taking Trump's campaign rhetoric and approach in to account, Bill does have a valid point or concern.

Trump's campaign is very reminiscent of that of George Wallace, in which he used the slogan "stand up for America". A slogan that is innocent on it's face, but rooted is racial bias and tones.

Let's fix America! -- racist
America is awesome! -- racist
America! - racist
Let's let our country rot -- Leftist seal of approval!

It's all racist if you can just make it up as you go, which is what you and many others are doing now. It's mind numbing, this racism witch hunt by the far left. You are seeing racists on every corner and in every bush. Racists are raining from the #ing sky. What this actually reminds me of is McCarthyism. Yes, there are still problems which should be addressed. This witch hunt is unfortunately adding to them.

a reply to: Konduit

lol yes we can! haha!

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

The Reagan campaign is not comparable.

Reagan did not run a similar campaign or use the same rhetoric/approach as Trump.

Reagan was a statesman compared to Trump.

Ok but Ragan didn't mince words. He was going after tax and spend, bloated social spending ect ect. Liberals.

He wasn't going after illegal immigrants and such was he? In fact, he signed an amnesty bill in '86.

And that was supposed to come with complete border enforcement ... too bad Democrats renegged on that. If they hadn't, we might not be so hardline on immigration today, but the left has proven they can't be trusted with their "amnesty now; border enforcement if 10 or 20 years ... if we feel like it then ... compromises"

Obama has the most border patrol agents doing they work on the border than any other president. Also, his amnesty attempt was shot down.

So I'm unsure of your point.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: UKTruth

ooops too big again ain't it... crap..

fixed!

Are you a Democrat? If so that's funny. Otherwise. it's racist.
See, I am getting the hang of it now!
YAY

Oh, hang on. I'll need to check your context...

a reply to: UKTruth

Yes, I understand that is how they expect to be able to
get away with the hypocrisy. Its typical liberal bull crap -
we can do it but you cant.

The internet is great for proving them to be phony.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

I seem to remember that Clinton was fairly popular too, so perhaps if it appealed to "those people" today, the same thing appealed to "those people" then and they voted for Clinton?

I'm not sure how that is relevant to my comment.

In other words, what the hell are you talking about?

a reply to: introvert

My point is that you can't trust a compromise that grants amnesty today in return for complete border control in some point in the future.

It never happens. The amnesty is all they want and it's what they make sure they get right away.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Context is everything. If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting jobs, infrastructure, equal rights for everyone and a living wage - then it isn't related to anything racist.

If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting ripping 11 million undocumented immigrants out of their homes, banning anyone who worships Islam from coming into the country, and claiming you subscribe to a hard-ass cop who says he knows how to get rid of the Chicago "black problem" in 10 days.... well.....

Exactly. This issue is all about context.

Seems that such a simple concept is hard to digest.

Seems like an even simpler concept like a campaign slogan is also hard to digest.
What was the contextual difference between Reagan's campaign slogan and Trump's campaign slogan?

Campaign policy ideals and rhetoric.

So we're back to YOUR interpretations again to define the context of a campaign slogan as being racist or not. Gotcha.
So you like the candidates policies - ok, you don't - racist!

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

I seem to remember that Clinton was fairly popular too, so perhaps if it appealed to "those people" today, the same thing appealed to "those people" then and they voted for Clinton?

I'm not sure how that is relevant to my comment.

In other words, what the hell are you talking about?

In other words, you don't want to get it.

If the rhetoric "Make America Great" appeals to racists today, it would likewise have appealed to racists when Bill Clinton used it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

My point is that you can't trust a compromise that grants amnesty today in return for complete border control in some point in the future.

It never happens. The amnesty is all they want and it's what they make sure they get right away.

Does that include both the Left and Right?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Context is everything. If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting jobs, infrastructure, equal rights for everyone and a living wage - then it isn't related to anything racist.

If you say "Make America Great Again" while promoting ripping 11 million undocumented immigrants out of their homes, banning anyone who worships Islam from coming into the country, and claiming you subscribe to a hard-ass cop who says he knows how to get rid of the Chicago "black problem" in 10 days.... well.....

Exactly. This issue is all about context.

Seems that such a simple concept is hard to digest.

Seems like an even simpler concept like a campaign slogan is also hard to digest.
What was the contextual difference between Reagan's campaign slogan and Trump's campaign slogan?

Campaign policy ideals and rhetoric.

So we're back to YOUR interpretations again to define the context of a campaign slogan as being racist or not. Gotcha.
So you like the candidates policies - ok, you don't - racist!

I did not say they were racist. I said they may appeal to racists, considering the context of their campaigns rhetoric and tactics.

This shouldn't be so hard to understand.

Its funny to watch all the leftys say the exact same phrase doesnt mean the same thing.

LMAO.Clinton could be on tape calling someone the N word and people would be like well he didnt mean it like Trump would have.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

I seem to remember that Clinton was fairly popular too, so perhaps if it appealed to "those people" today, the same thing appealed to "those people" then and they voted for Clinton?

I'm not sure how that is relevant to my comment.

In other words, what the hell are you talking about?

In other words, you don't want to get it.

If the rhetoric "Make America Great" appeals to racists today, it would likewise have appealed to racists when Bill Clinton used it.

There are people in this country who don't like Hispanics. There are people in this country who don't like Muslims. There are people in this country who don't like blacks.

Trump is the answer to their dreams when he talks about getting rid of many Hispanics, all incoming Muslims and "getting tough" on blacks. To those people, yes - Trump's "Make America Great Again" is all about having the whites more in control.

a reply to: UKTruth

lol!

a reply to: kaylaluv

Please explain how this was any different than when Bill Clinton said the same thing.

originally posted by: introvert
Did I claim anyone was racist for using that slogan?

Well, did you?

originally posted by: introvert
Taking Trump's campaign rhetoric and approach in to account, Bill does have a valid point or concern.

So, exactly what is the valid point again?

I said that put in it's proper context, one can see that the term may appeal to those that are...considering Trump's campaign tactics and rhetoric.

We can clearly see that in its proper context Hillary Clinton
used racial slurs and was promoting Make America Great Again.

What, No comment on that again?