Safe School program gays lesbians transgenders bullied

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ketsuko

It's lobbying and organization by minorities, for minorities.

Are you kidding?

Civil/Equal Rights is not a minority issue. It's every ones issue who cares about equality.

I am not a minority.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
What happens when we're all in our special boxes and all free to be segregated and safe. I mean wow this is some sort of dystopia you people are rooting for here.

LGBT kids and people don't want to be segregated and safe. They want to be integrated and safe. Until then, It is the knuckle draggers and fundies that really need special programs and education to learn how to act like decent human beings. They are the ones creating the stigma and oppression that makes the queer kids feel the way they do. Eliminate the prejudice and attitudes and LGBT kids won't face the special crap that other kids don't.

Until then, if LGBT kids need to hang together for their comfort and safety or feel like their school has their back, I've got no problem with that. I root not for some dystopian future but one where sexuality, gender or the color of a person's skin doesn't matter. I'm far more Star Trek than Mad Max.

Oh, and as far as double digit IQ's in this thread, I wouldn't be throwing any stones if I were you.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

Im not convinced its ATS, I think its a widespread epidemic that manifests on ATS. Its deeply disturbing to me how seemingly coherent individuals are buying into these concepts across the board.

There are actual solutions to these social and cultural problems, but, of course, they DO NOT include perpetuating the same old issues with new wrapping.

Its quite a tragedy, and one that has played out over and over throughout human history. The social programming has been so incredibly well crafted this time around though..

If you are at all familiar with coding, work out how (comparatively) easy it would be to create a module that accurately replicates a given individuals response to a given topic.

Why bother with synthetic AI when a superior system can be made with less effort using organic lifeforms? Truly spooky, if you think about it and consider the evidence.

If it was simple stupidity, it might be "easy" to address. But, it seems to be perennial cultural problems catalyzed and amplified with social programming to increase predictability. Not easy, but perhaps more straightforward than introducing spontaneity into a strictly predictable system.

None of this is a feasible path to actually evolving our social interactions or culture, but I'm thoroughly convinced that technology will force our hand to either truly advance.. or perish.

*shrug*

There is no such thing as a safe school that is bully free. Of you had an entire school with only LGBT students, some of tjose students are still going to be bullied no matter what. The underlying issues to bullyong behavior typically originates at home. The bully seeks validation from peers by projecting their sorrows unto others.

To imply these "safe schools" are free of any bullying is propastorous and delusionally naive.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
There is no such thing as a safe school that is bully free. Of you had an entire school with only LGBT students, some of tjose students are still going to be bullied no matter what. The underlying issues to bullyong behavior typically originates at home. The bully seeks validation from peers by projecting their sorrows unto others.

To imply these "safe schools" are free of any bullying is propastorous and delusionally naive.

Humans are humans. Teenagers are teenagers.

Did anyone say or even indicate otherwise?

As I've stated, in regular schools much of the abuse or lack of protection comes from those in charge.

Often non-LGBT students will stand with LGBT students against the adults in charge, which in some states goes all the way up to the Governor.

Safe school administrators, teachers, etc are in support of no bullying.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Annee

Actually, yes.

Have you no idea what it's like to be a gifted child or have you never had one in your family you had to end up being an advocate for?

I am sorry but what on earth are you even talking about? It's so irrelevant. Were the teachers bullying you because you were supposed to be gifted, yet you intentionally drift arguments into loosely related subject matter to confirm your own bias?

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
To imply these "safe schools" are free of any bullying is propastorous and delusionally naive.

Good thing nobody implied that, I guess.

a reply to: ketsuko

I'm a straight white guy and there was a black kid that always punched me in the arm in Middle School. Then there was a hispanic guy that was 2 grades below the grade he was supposed to be in, and he was the same way. Like all normal kids, we dealt with it, thankfully we never got a safe space.

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: ketsuko

I'm a straight white guy and there was a black kid that always punched me in the arm in Middle School. Then there was a hispanic guy that was 2 grades below the grade he was supposed to be in, and he was the same way. Like all normal kids, we dealt with it, thankfully we never got a safe space.

Animalistic behavior - - - Survival of the Fittest.

Why should we ever try to evolve past that?

Are you this easily influenced? This is gay segregation. As a liberal you're supposed to be against segregation?

Stop with the gay crap already.. this is an invented crisis.. social engineering, stop being influenced by the relativistic garbage propaganda and the tiring gay hype. I'm tired of all you gay attention whores, shut up..

All you people with your rainbows on your Facebook pictures, stop with the pathetic virtue signalling and stop buying into every dumb campaign and struggle these people try to sell you. These people are fake superficial "activists". Fake ideology, fake information, fake struggle. They play it safe, they conform and even oppress.. I wish they were aware enough to be aware of all the irony surrounding their character.

Not gonna be buying into the mindless gay hype. That's for sheep.

Remember the days when the money didn't matter if kids were involved at all? Now a bunch of adults will literally hate gay children over their own finical mistakes. You can shift the focus to whoever you want, their gay parents? Random gay people on the internet, however, being against children having anti-bullying programs simply because you're against the sexual identification preference of a child is absurd. Education will lead to not just less bullying, but less of 'gay' being something to bully over, these kids are copying their dumb parents. Straight people are affected too, I knew plenty of repressed kids that were called gay and were not but it bothered them. I had a friend Jimmy and everyone called him gay and he hated it, and never really dated anyone because of it, that's just terrible to treat someone like that, and he's not even gay. I'm sure the extra money is just smoked too, and there's no possible way that it's landing into the hands and benefit of the kids at the schools.

originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
Are you this easily influenced? This is gay segregation.

Safe schools in America are open to any student. They are not exclusively LGBT.

Stop with the gay crap already.. this is an invented crisis.. social engineering, stop being influenced by the relativistic garbage propaganda and the tiring gay hype. I'm tired of all you gay attention whores, shut up..

Bullying Statistics dot Org: Yes its for real: www.bullyingstatistics.org...

According to bullyingstatistics.org, one of the main reasons that students who are out as homosexuals are more likely to be bullied is due to the fact that it is still considered to be a differing from the norms in a way that many people, including other students still don’t understand. Unfortunately, many still believe that being gay makes you less than human and often proceed to act accordingly.

Here is a listing of a few statistics:-Adolescents who are out as gay or lesbian are up to three times more likely to end up committing suicide because they often believe that the bullying will never stop and come to be convinced that taking themselves out of the world is the answer.

The national statistics for suicides related to sexual identity remains at roughly 30 percent.-They are also around five times more likely to cut classes and/or be truant in their school attendance.

Around28 percent still feel that dropping out of school together is the only answer.

Around 9 out of 10 open LGBT students have reported that they were bullied in some form and around half have reported physical harassment and another quarter have reported being physically assaulted.

Most are reluctant to share their experiences with any adult because of the fear of being accused of being a “tattle tale” or worsening the bullying, about a third of those who have tried to report it to the school authorities have reported that they wouldn’t budge on the issue. Unfortunately, most give up from there and don’t understand that there is almost always another option such as members of the school board who they can also try.

All you people with your rainbows on your Facebook pictures, stop with the pathetic virtue signalling and stop buying into every dumb campaign and struggle these people try to sell you. These people are fake superficial "activists". Fake ideology, fake information, fake struggle. They play it safe, they conform and even oppress.. I wish they were aware enough to be aware of all the irony surrounding their character.

What are you afraid of?

Anyone who spouts this much nonsense has their own issues.

a reply to: Annee

I guess they call it the gay agenda. That's what I'm afraid of..

originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Annee

I guess they call it the gay agenda. That's what I'm afraid of..

Apparently, you do. And are.

Homosexual agenda (or gay agenda) is a term introduced by sectors of the Christian right (primarily in the United States) as a disparaging way to describe the advocacy of cultural acceptance and normalization of non-heterosexual orientations and relationships. The term refers to efforts to change government policies and laws on LGBT rights-related issues. Additionally, it may be used by social conservatives and others to describe alleged goals of LGBT rights activists, such as recruiting heterosexuals into what they term a "homosexual lifestyle". en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ketsuko

It's lobbying and organization by minorities, for minorities.

Are you kidding?

Civil/Equal Rights is not a minority issue. It's every ones issue who cares about equality.

I am not a minority.

Equal rights with who? Last I checked, gay Dave down the road had the same rights as me, was allowed to use the same bus and everything.

originally posted by: liammc

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ketsuko

It's lobbying and organization by minorities, for minorities.

Are you kidding?

Civil/Equal Rights is not a minority issue. It's every ones issue who cares about equality.

I am not a minority.

Equal rights with who? Last I checked, gay Dave down the road had the same rights as me, was allowed to use the same bus and everything.

That really depends on where and what state you live in. And if that state has LGBT in their discrimination law.

At this time LGBT are only protected in Federal jobs.

Maybe you should learn something before you state incorrect info.

As a single parent to two wonderful girls both in primary/secondry school in Australia i was one of those parents not wanting the safe school program.reason being after talking to both my girls they said they wouldnt feel safe at their school if this program was implemented,so theres my answer"no to safe schools"for me its simple.Talk to your children and ask questions..

a reply to: Annee

Wow, you find a paragraph on the internet.

But it doesn't mention gender fluidity, relativisation of gender or inversion of gender roles. Neither does it mention feminism and the other forces of destruction preemptively fomenting a gender war with both sides being increasingly bitter.

Look longer than your nose next time.. and gays, don't dance with 6 year old boys in shorts that shake their asses at Pride festivals. That is abhorrent. Starting to look more like Sodom and Gomorrah than anything else.

Next step, bestiality and other abominations. Next thing you know people will look like Deros and will be dependent on nasty machines giving them permanent orgasms. Don't tell me I didn't warn you, or will you be one of the first ones with a chimera girlfriend giving you alien blowjobs?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: liammc

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ketsuko

It's lobbying and organization by minorities, for minorities.

Are you kidding?

Civil/Equal Rights is not a minority issue. It's every ones issue who cares about equality.

I am not a minority.

Equal rights with who? Last I checked, gay Dave down the road had the same rights as me, was allowed to use the same bus and everything.

That really depends on where and what state you live in. And if that state has LGBT in their discrimination law.

At this time LGBT are only protected in Federal jobs.

Maybe you should learn something before you state incorrect info.

I'm not from any state, I'm from the UK and all people here have exactly the same human rights. I'm pretty sure it's like that in the states though too, so that means you must be making things up, or just want extra rights for gays.