Trump's Ignorant Pitch to Black Voters

What economic policies does Trump suggest will help poor black people? Or poor anybody.

Another version of trickle down Reagonomics


Give all to the rich and get on your knees and maybe they’ll throw some crumbs your way

He absolutely is pandering. Or is your opinion in a special category? :-)

Occurs is in a special category, my special.

NAFTA’s Broken Promises 1994-2013:
Outcomes of the North American Free Trade Agreement

www.citizen.org...

I wonder who Hillary will pander if she wins the elections, a bigger trade agreement maybe? benefiting her European foundation donors? special the middle east.

Everybody benefited from NAFTA job creation, that means if your were from a foreign country involved in NAFTA, America middle working class is none existent, but the poor class and the rich class are thriving.

a reply to: Willtell

Whatever he has in mind is still going to be unpopular with the status quo, no matter what.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

This is a retarded reaction to what he does. This trend of highly personalizing general statements via political correctness is ridiculous.

He's right. Obama has done zip for blacks over the last eight years. Their position in society has actually suffered under that idiot.

What DO you have to lose?

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

The week of the NAACP was the same as the Republican Convention....hmmm...scheduling conflict.

Urban League meeting in Baltimore - this represents all black people? Al Sharpton is a guest....I guess Romney is racist since he skipped in 2012.

The journalist? Well, I guess he wanted to speak to the Urban leader instead..
www.latimes.com...

Donald Trump sat down Saturday with Latino leaders from nearly a dozen states in his latest effort to appeal to minority voters who have largely spurned his struggling campaign. After waging a year-long campaign marked by divisive and racially coded rhetoric, the Republican nominee reached out to African Americans several times this week. He insisted at rallies in Wisconsin and Michigan that he would do a better job than Hillary Clinton, his Democratic rival, at creating jobs and improving schools for black families. On Saturday, he focused on Latino voters. In a round table discussion with his campaign's Hispanic advisory council at Trump Tower in New York, the real estate mogul talked about creating jobs and his plans to limit immigration, according to attendees. Colorado State Rep. Clarice Navarro, a member of the council who attended the meeting, said Trump heard the group's concerns.

All this hate towards Trump when all he is doing is saying i can help is pathetic. All of the media calls it pandering but at least he did not say he carries hot sauce. He was just honest. Crime in major cities is up. Black on Black crime is up. Black unemployment is up. I mean, he did not have his press conference in the ghetto so he is not 'real'.

Again, the racism in this country comes from three African Americans who hold the highest posts in the land. Obama, Johnson and Lynch.

Trump can release the chains of progressive policies that hold back ALL the poor not just blacks.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org... (missed on 3-year term from '62-'65)
en.wikipedia.org... (the two prior are listed simply as "Charterite" with no other party affiliation like they do on some other Charterite mayors and the one in front of them is also Democrat making the first listed Republican Blackwell from '79-'80)
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en.wikipedia.org... (Miami is wrong, but they were under Democrat administration from '67 to '96 which is a 29 year period, and then they had mostly Republican mayors from '96 to '01 - 5 years - before Diaz came in for another 8 years of Democrat leading to the current mayor who is Republican)
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Could not verify any of the party affiliations for El Paso Mayors although I did find a list of them.
en.wikipedia.org... (This is technically wrong too but only because they've had open socialists in office three different times. )
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en.wikipedia.org... (If I am reading the color coding on the names correctly, then this is actually a bit wrong. Newark hasn't had a Republican in office since 1896.)

So all in all, this graphic is not too bad aside from the two cities listed as "forevers."

How Hillary is going to fix the economy?

Actually is a repeat from the Bush and Obama administrations, a lot of lip service as usual.

To get America's economy fired up again for everyone, Clinton laid out five key proposals:

1. Create jobs with a big government investment in infrastructure
2. Make college debt-free for all
3. Encourage companies to share profits with their employees
4. Make the rich (and Wall Street) pay more in taxes
5. Put "families first" in the economy by raising the minimum wage, enacting paid family leave and expanding preschool for all.

money.cnn.com...

Sounds familiar? yes, because it is.

Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

www.politifact.com...

The Broken Promises of George W. Bush

www.americanprogressaction.org...

What is the difference between career politicians and Trump, well on the first ones you pretty much can tell they are lip servicing the public and pandering, with not sight to realized any of the promises, with Trump no a career politicians, maybe, just maybe we get what we really want.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

To tell the truth, is really actually the truth, so far presidential candidates offer a lot of lip and then they just keep increasing the welfare system so they can keep the poor in the country, (mostly blacks) happy with crumbs every month.

So yes, what they have lose, unless many rather keep sitting at home getting crumbs, rather than work for a living, after all why to work when we have a hard working class that pay for all the social services in the nation

Only a minority of Black Americans have the change to become successful in this nation, so for many the American dream has just become that a for anybody else specially foreign immigrants dream but for them.

I love when politicians tells the truth, good for trump, is raw, ugly but at least he is not pandering to public opinion

So, Black people are sitting at home and collecting welfare and they vote democrat so they can continue to do so?

Bingo!

originally posted by: 123143
What DO you have to lose?

I have a hell of a lot to lose if Trump becomes president!

a reply to: ketsuko

Thank you for those links, but I asked for a link to what you posted... You must have gotten it somewhere... I'd rather have the facts than an internet meme that's "technically wrong" or "not too bad" a representation of the truth.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

How many years have the African americans been voting democrat? Almost since they could vote. And How many Promises have they kept to them? Id say about 2-3 percent. just enough to keep stringing them on.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: 123143
What DO you have to lose?

I have a hell of a lot to lose if Trump becomes president!

a reply to: ketsuko

Thank you for those links, but I asked for a link to what you posted... You must have gotten it somewhere... I'd rather have the facts than an internet meme that's "technically wrong" or "not too bad" a representation of the truth.

Oh please, I fact checked the entire meme for you. That's what those links are. If you can't be bothered to look at them and see for yourself, it's not my problem. What do you think those links are? They're a list of the mayors of those cities.

So right now, my translation of what you just said is "I would prefer to believe this is all false rather than accept that my ideological opponent just gave me an honest fact check and even admitted where the meme was not 100% accurate or flat0out wrong ..." Why did you do that? My supposition is because it does show some uncomfortable truths.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
So, if Trump REALLY wanted to reach out to black people, he'd address THEM about police brutality, racism in the criminal justice system, racially-motivated voter ID laws, and he'd be supporting the Affordable Care Act, which makes affordable insurance available to many blacks for the first time.

not to get off topic, but 'police brutality' etc are not the reason the African American community is doing so poorly. This whole issue is a huge smokescreen of a handful of incidents blown out of proportion (and often inaccurately) to keep democrat voters angry (angry people vote), get ratings and viewers/readers for the media, and distract from urban democrat inability to solve real problems.
And voter ID laws are intended to make the process legit, not deprive people of their right to vote. Anyone can get a valid ID with no problems. (Come on, elections happen every two years, it's not like one wakes up election day needing an ID.) This will help prevent districts from voting 110% for democrat candidates, which is kind of fraudulent.
www.h4cblog.com...

People need money to live. People must work to get money (unless born to a rich family like a Kennedy or Rockefeller). African American poverty (indeed any poverty) is only fixed when individuals take jobs. the democrats are very good at implementing 'jobs programs' that provide work for college-educated democrats (to administer you know), but do little to help actual poverty.
Republicans are frequently criticized for failure to 'reach out' to the AA community. Trump reaches out and gets criticized for...being heavy handed? speaking before some whites? the fact is, no matter what any Republican says he/she will be criticized and vilified by this corrupt biased media.
End black poverty? improve the economy and produce more jobs. that's the ONLY solution.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: carewemust

More of the same. I live in a city where the population is 40% African American. There are poor areas and rich areas and lots and lots of middle class area.

My one short block, just the street I immediately live on, has families from Turkey, Bulgaria, Mexico, China, Japan, and those are just the ones I know. There's blacks, whites, yellows, browns, even a family of Native Americans. Also a few Muslims wearing head scarves.

We're all somewhere in the middle class. And we're all friendly with each other. I've not experienced any division or animosity.

I the Louisiana flood, one family-extended lost 10 homes. There are reasons people tend to congregate together. I don't believe its just skin color or poverty.

a reply to: ketsuko

This illustrates his point.

Come on! I'm 100% positive that you're not the first order thinker you pretend to be.

Why is it that blacks need "special" economic policies only for them? Are they somehow incapable of making it the same way the rest of us do - you know by going to school, learning the things we need to learn, and earning our way in life?

A set of economic policies that work for one ethnic group ought to work for all the rest. Economics are not ethnically sensitive. They are math-based. Numbers don't care if you are one ethnicity or another; they simply are.

If you're talking about Affirmative Action, it was clearly an attempt to remedy economic inequality through direct intervention in hiring practices at a time when our nation finally put an end to abject oppression which had been up to then enshrined in law.

You are confusing the effect with the cause. You're also without any reason to believe it's true, declaring AA an absolute failure when in reality, you have no idea whether the current situation is any better or worse because of it.

Of course why would you give it that much thought when you don't even recognize that there was a problem that policy like AA was supposed to fix? What do you think the income gap was in 1965 between whites and blacks? The wealth gap? How about education? Do you believe that there were nces.ed.gov..." target="_blank" class="postlink">5x as many illiterate black adults as white in 1965 because black people have a harder time learning to read or maybe because they were just too lazy? Rap music?

The reality is that black people started out our the very recent period as legally equal members of society, very deep in a hole and at the same time as we were entering into deindustrialization.

I don't think anything could be more ignorant than Hillary pandering to certain voters with her hot sauce reference.

And this is coming from the same woman who called them "super predators".

originally posted by: Willtell
Trump is doing just what he supposed to do:
Insult both populations and make his vote less appealing to both.

Trump is doing a fantastic job. Now he has even pissedoff his conservative core by flip floping on the
deportation of illegal aliens.

therightscoop.com...

so no wall.....

His new staff is as clueless and he is. I don't think he is even serious by running a campaign as one big cluster ****!!

only 2 + months to go....can the GOP stay viable? no.....

a reply to: theantediluvian

No, I am not talking about that, not specifically. Nice attempt to move the goalpost though.

I am talking about the repeated idea that the entire system is rigged against them so they better not try because without the "special" help of special political friends who will make the mean old system give them what they deserve, they can't do it. They just can't and never will.

That breeds a mentality that never will try, for anything, because it believes that there is no point to it, and so we get what we see in a lot of places ... people who refuse to try, who scorn education, who vote for the handouts because they believe the system is so against them it's the only way they'll ever get anything in life.

But the politicians want that. It gives them power and lets them buy votes every cycle.

originally posted by: Willtell
What economic policies does Trump suggest will help poor black people? Or poor anybody.

Another version of trickle down Reagonomics
Give all to the rich and get on your knees and maybe they’ll throw some crumbs your way

A rising tide lifts all boats if you're seaworthy. If not, there are safety nets in place for you. "Trickle-down" is how economics operates.. plain and simple. Either you'll get a trickle down from Hillary, or a trickle down from Trump.

I've had enough of the Government version of "trickle-down". As a brave, risk-taking American I suggest that we try Trump's version and see how it works. No guts, no glory!