Finally Anjem Choudary Is going down.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Not sure beheading guys that behead people to show how their special brand of sickness needs to be eradicated from the world is actually gonna work.

Or using killing people that belong to an insane death cult as some kind of deterrent to the other insane death cultists. I don't care at all if they die but the logistics of what you're proposing seems a bit offkey.

a reply to: MagnaCarta2015 it works for them

I'd love to put two 5.56mm holes in his face.

No I'm not sorry about it. All these terrorist thugs understand is force.

Ain't this story just what it appears to be?? A hypocritical action against a politically correct Muslim.

I kind'a liked ol' Anjem. Has quite a pair on him and likes to swing 'em around in public.

If the government can convict him for his beliefs ... WTF can't they condemn all Muslims?

Think about it.

They would have well to just deport him.But probably against British law?

a reply to: TDawg61

Where to he is British.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: intrptr

Nope they found evidence he was actively recruiting for ISIS or inciting others to go which is illegal anyway, he has been hiding behind freedom of speech laws for 20 years they got him another way.

www.bbc.co.uk...

Inciting others? NATO actually bombs other countries to dust, can't you hear the distant thunder? Count the destroyed infrastructure there, the number of corpses there, the decimation death and misery, there.

Incensed at orators in your precious EU, what a joke.

I think you're missing the point here. Bombing another country doesn't, by comparison, stop him from being a dangerous man. He wanted to be a conduit and IS leader in the UK to incite actual terrorism.

UK tabloids have turned the guy into a figurehead for their anti-immigration campaigns. They've publicised him for years to inculcate hatred and distrust of immigrants and, indirectly, all Muslims. They've given him a platform where his hate speech reached the ears of people living across the country instead of needing to be in front of him. The tabloids made him an internet search term and fundamentally made him a man of influence when he would have remained a hateful shrieker with almost zero audience.

For his part, he radicalised some Muslims because they'd sympathise with his treatment by the tabloids; he'd be seen as a 'victim' of western media. He incited gullible Muslims to fight and scheme against UK laws and culture. His words could have played a part in the murder of Lee Rigby and that's what he wanted. His spoken aim was for young Muslims to ignore the rule of Law in the UK and replace it with Sharia Law. He supported Islamic State...

The combination of his own activities with the tabloid publicity made him a dangerous man. He deserves a criminal sentence and I'm usually dubious about terrorism charges - not in this case. Ideally, the tabloids and their journalists should reflect on their responsibilities and consider dialling down all the hatred. They might consider how their own actions have caused an atmosphere of fear and hate across *all* sides. Obviously they won't and will carry on ramping it up.

He'll receive a mild sentence and enter the prison system with the false prestige bestowed by the media.

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: butcherguy

Nah I don't mind Muslims I live near Bradford and work with many but fundies and ones who spit into the face of the country they enjoy the benefits of.....

and that's what separates you from most Americans.

kudos to you for stating discernable differences from the mentalists and the average blokes who just gets on with it.

originally posted by: Snarl
I kind'a liked ol' Anjem. Has quite a pair on him and likes to swing 'em around in public.

If the government can convict him for his beliefs ... WTF can't they condemn all Muslims?

Think about it.

Are you joking?

You support his beliefs in the downfall of western civilisation - the very same freedom you currently live in an enjoy right now? Would you really like to live in his fantasy world of oppression, religious imposition and violence?

You also like his beliefs in the the murder of innocent people. Children.

You like this person???

a reply to: odzeandennz

and that's what separates you from most Americans.

What would you know about what most Americans think?

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015

Muslim gangs are a huge problem in certain prisons in the UK. There are places where it's widely known they run the wings.

Not a Anjem fan myself, i cant really put a constructive sentence together for it so I will save it for some other websites.

However, it is still illegal to do illegal things in prison, so hopefully the fact he cant keep his dumb mouth shut means he will be rolled in front of the judges again and again for preaching religious hate crime..like that guy on youtube who gobs off at the judge and gets an extra few weeks and does it again and gets a few more. Once we have him inside, it will be easy with all the technology to keep him silenced.

I would also like to think that a gobby Mo botherer will get a bit of a shoeing when it cant keep its mouth shut.

But in quoting your post, do you have any links to the actual problem of muslim gangs in UK prisons? We are not a third world country, its quite easy to transfer mohammed-bin-ello to Leeds wing D and mohammed-bin-ali to Soughton B wing to split them up. I am sure we wouldnt allow muslim gangs to create a problem in jails, of course, there may be groups of radicalised muslims but it sounds like MSM shoite to me than its no more a problem of gangs of trannies trying to apply make up and dress up straight folk in the same nick.

a reply to: Forensick

do you have any links to the actual problem of muslim gangs in UK prisons?

There are many links and it is a problem , here's one from last month.

The Prison Officers Association says it is symptomatic of the growing power and influence of Muslim gangs in prison. However, there are also concerns that some of those converts could be radicalised by more extremist elements in prison.
news.sky.com...

We may not be a third world country but public spending is being cut year on year , prison officers are under increasing strain and falling numbers of staff is a problem in our jails.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Forensick

do you have any links to the actual problem of muslim gangs in UK prisons?

There are many links and it is a problem , here's one from last month.

The Prison Officers Association says it is symptomatic of the growing power and influence of Muslim gangs in prison. However, there are also concerns that some of those converts could be radicalised by more extremist elements in prison.
news.sky.com...

We may not be a third world country but public spending is being cut year on year , prison officers are under increasing strain and falling numbers of staff is a problem in our jails.

Thanks, I wasnt trying to call you out, just wondered how much was hype, although, it is Sky news and based on a random woman, sounds like a Sun article!

You know I have always said I would pay more tax for an improvement to prison services and police to keep us safer at home but not when we are wasting money on NHS holiday makers, free house immigration and benefits spongers.

I have high hopes for Brexit that will likely never be met, the vote sent a message but it has largely been undermined so far, its time for more action.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

"Finally Anjem Choudary is going down"

Um, ok - isn't that against his religion?

What I like the most is that in the next few years it spends behind bars, it will realise that its UK law and not Shariah Law. Whilst I dont think it will accept it, the fact that its true will eat it up inside.

I understand it is actually a rather intelligent thing so in trying to convince everyone about the Shariah whilst locked up at Her Majesties Pleasure (and I recon Betty will be delighted), it will be too clever not to realise the Irony of the shoite its spurting out and alone at night, its brain will know the truth, I dont think its thick enough to be a fundamentalist rather thought it was clever enough to make a living and not get some porridge.

Now either two things, it will either realise the error of its ways (it wont do that, too much pride) it will be eaten up knowing it cant back down but continuing it will live a life of misery, this will eat it up until it dissapears up its own bum hole, which will be sore from its time in the showers.

a reply to: Kandinsky

I think you're missing the point here. Bombing another country doesn't, by comparison, stop him from being a dangerous man. He wanted to be a conduit and IS leader in the UK to incite actual terrorism.

I'm not missing anything. The media ignores the real tragedy playing out in the middle east, supplanting that wth an anti Islamic campaign, which tends to garner support at home for more tragedy in the middle east (more defense spending, war, profit). Can't have a war on terror without an enemy.

I don;t disagree overall with what you say, just observe the vacuum of information about actual events in the Middle East (round the clock airstrike campaign, covert guerrilla operations designed to topple Assad government), none of that is covered. The main stream media doesn't even display a picture of a map. But will pick apart Islam to the nth degree.

a reply to: intrptr

Yeah, the war on terror appears to have created more global instability and insecurity than anything else. When the mood hits me, I wander off to Al Jazeera for a different MSM perspective on ME events.

Incidentally, ~18k people killed in Syrian prisons. Here's the BBC version too.

It's crazy. The degradations in there will create a lot of broken minds amongst survivors. If you wanted to create a negative, chaotic effect on society, this'd be a mighty fine way to go about it. It doesn't take many deprived families to topple a good neighbourhood in the west. Imagine the effect of thousands of humans who've been tortured, degraded, raped? PTSD, fury, fear and all the other negatives of the human condition.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Imagine the effect of thousands of humans who've been tortured, degraded, raped? PTSD, fury, fear and all the other negatives of the human condition.

Wo was it said, "I'm going to make Georgia howl"?

General Sherman's march to the sea was a military expedition through the confederacy's soft underbelly designed explicitly to destroy infrastructure, burn crops, murder, rape, pillage and burn the Souths civilian population so badly they would howl for peace regardless of the terms.

The razing of entire Japanese and German cities by massed bomber fleets during WWII was designed to do the same thing.

The clandestine and covert terror unleashed in Syria is a modern equivalent, where heavily armed, roving gangs of murderers, rapists and thieves, attack small towns and decimate the civilian populations.

War is always like that, directed at the civilians, until it is so bad the government, hopefully, will sue for peace.

General Sherman's march to the sea, "I shall make Georgia howl!"

Reading your link...

a reply to: Kandinsky

Having trouble with this...

The Syrian civil war started as a largely peaceful uprising against President Bashar al-Assad in March 2011, but quickly developed into a full-scale war.

Pretty disingenuous, I sat here and watched with others as what began as the Syrian "Arab Spring" was hijacked by outside agitation and turned into a fake revolution by western "interests".

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: Snarl
I kind'a liked ol' Anjem. Has quite a pair on him and likes to swing 'em around in public.

If the government can convict him for his beliefs ... WTF can't they condemn all Muslims?

Think about it.

Are you joking?

Ahhh ... I can see you didn't think about it.