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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth
A good portion of that money has to go down ballot you know. He's acting now like its his money. The idiot. Saying he won't give it to them if they turn their back on him. All they need to do is take it and say F.U. Donald.
Then he goes home because he CANT AFFORD to fund a presidential campaign on his own.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth
A good portion of that money has to go down ballot you know. He's acting now like its his money. The idiot. Saying he won't give it to them if they turn their back on him. All they need to do is take it and say F.U. Donald.
Then he goes home because he CANT AFFORD to fund a presidential campaign on his own.
originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I follow Trump on Twitter.
I don't follow Hillary.
If I had to choose, I'd choose Hillary.
I'm from the UK.
Did you data amalgamaters take any of this into account?
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Granted. Now if anybody can explain the differences in the rallies that's be great.
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Granted. Now if anybody can explain the differences in the rallies that's be great.
MrSpad nailed it in another thread - large rallies are mainly entertainment for existing supporters. The small meetings are the candidate going to swing areas where they aren't necessarily winning and engaging people in a one-on-one effort to recruit new voters.
The big events don't bring in new voters; they bring in the existing base. It's the critical little meetings that win people over.
Also, the little meetings are where the big policy issues are being talked about AND where they're hearing what the average person there has to say (what they think is important.) At the big meetings, nobody talks to the politician - the politician does the monologue.
originally posted by: Tempter
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Sillyolme
I agree that she's going down in history, same with the US if she wins.
Spare me.
People said the same thing when Obama was elected, twice, and we're still here doing just fine.
Doing just fine? There are more people out of work than I can ever remember. My company has let go of nearly 20,000 people. These were good paying jobs. And it's all the fault if this ass and his stupid EPA regulations and anti-capitalism views.
Suck it
Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.
None of them will tell you this: If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.
There's another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you're an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 -- maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn -- you're not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%. Few Americans know this.
Yet another figure of importance that doesn't get much press: those working part time but wanting full-time work. If you have a degree in chemistry or math and are working 10 hours part time because it is all you can find -- in other words, you are severely underemployed -- the government doesn't count you in the 5.6%. Few Americans know this.
There's no other way to say this. The official unemployment rate, which cruelly overlooks the suffering of the long-term and often permanently unemployed as well as the depressingly underemployed, amounts to a Big Lie. And it's a lie
originally posted by: rollanotherone
a reply to: UKTruth
You can beat this point into the ground with dems but they will keep repeating the same lie John Stewart told them. Because it was on the Daily Show, it HAS to be true. Our prophet John wouldn't dare lie to his flock.
originally posted by: UKTruth
The other dishonesty we see is on jobs growth. Firstly Obama uses 2010 as his start point for his +14m jobs, not only ignoring 2009, but using the lower start point in 2010 as his baseline.
Whilst some industries with higher wages have seen growth (e.g computer science)
originally posted by: SpecialSauce
a reply to: Konduit
Social media patterns show a cat playing the piano will be the next president.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: UKTruth
The other dishonesty we see is on jobs growth. Firstly Obama uses 2010 as his start point for his +14m jobs, not only ignoring 2009, but using the lower start point in 2010 as his baseline.
That's because executive policies have a delay. Budgets don't start until 2 years from the date they're passed (though you can do some supplemental spending a year early). Basically this means you have to attribute all of 2009 and most of 2010 to W, and you'll be attributing 2017 and most of 2018 to Obama. Whether it's Clinton or Trump in the big chair come next year, there's not really going to be anything you can fairly judge them on until 2019.
Whilst some industries with higher wages have seen growth (e.g computer science)
Computer science has not seen a growth, it has remained largely flat. Which is in line with the rest of the world where CS fields are much lower paying (a typical $140k job in SF for example is only worth about $50k in London). The large amount of hiring foreigners in the field has kept the wages down, in addition to the trend to hire remotely from lower CoL areas of the US.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Granted. Now if anybody can explain the differences in the rallies that's be great.
MrSpad nailed it in another thread - large rallies are mainly entertainment for existing supporters. The small meetings are the candidate going to swing areas where they aren't necessarily winning and engaging people in a one-on-one effort to recruit new voters.
The big events don't bring in new voters; they bring in the existing base. It's the critical little meetings that win people over.
Also, the little meetings are where the big policy issues are being talked about AND where they're hearing what the average person there has to say (what they think is important.) At the big meetings, nobody talks to the politician - the politician does the monologue.
Except Trump is going to swing states where he is not necessarily winning. His massive crowds over the last couple of days have been in Florida and Pennsylvania.
It's more likely that very few are really interested in anything Hillary has got to say. The election is all about Trump and is in fact a referendum on him and his positions, with Hillary being the default winner if that referendum vote comes back as a 'no'.