Malaysian officials FINALLY admit MH370 pilot DID plot course over Indian Ocean on his home flight s

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Soloprotocol

All he had to do was depressurize the aircraft and they'd all pass out.

is that possible? i mean to depressurize below 8000 ft cabin pr altitude. surely there must be fail safe systems that prevent the pilot from doing so ( to increase the cabin pr altitude beyond 8000 ft)

a reply to: Nochzwei

It's a simple matter of opening the outflow valve. Flip a couple switches and it's done. Set it to manual and open before takeoff and the aircraft would never pressurize in the first place.

If he depressurizes does it eventually lead to the death of everyone before the plane hits the water or was there a chance that some of the passengers and crew could have wokeen back up as the plane decended. I would like to believe that everyone was asleep and knew nothing about what was to be there final moments.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

It affects different people differently. It would depend on how fast the plane came down. Some people may have woken up but it would normally take a little bit for them to realize what was going on. They'd be awake but not coherent. Some would die from the lack of oxygen, usually those with medical problems.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Nochzwei

It's a simple matter of opening the outflow valve. Flip a couple switches and it's done. Set it to manual and open before takeoff and the aircraft would never pressurize in the first place.

So there is no fail safe system in place. rather uncharcteristic of boeing

a reply to: Nochzwei

There isn't on any aircraft. If there's a fire in the cabin the crew can flip the switches, depressurize and put it out.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Nochzwei

There isn't on any aircraft. If there's a fire in the cabin the crew can flip the switches, depressurize and put it out.

that seems plausible. so the mh370 capt depressurize, the oxygen masks come down, eventually the oxygen runs out. this capt is a murderer if he indeed did that

a reply to: Nochzwei

remember that other flight ...calling it a suicide...this is unsettling to say the least...he was the exhausted pilot..on his last flight

testing a theory that the Cypriot pilot deliberately went into a nosedive from an altitude of 3,000ft before the plane crashed down at the Rostov-on-Don airport, about 600 miles south of Moscow.


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a reply to: research100

Pravda and Daily Mail are good sources now? The investigators haven't said anything about suicide. He was about to have a child, was leaving a job he didn't like for a much better job, but supposedly deliberately crashed the plane? That doesn't make sense.

a reply to: Zaphod58

why did he do "this" the Boeing 737-800 captain, who presumably was aware of his actions and properly assessed the situation and the aircraft's position relative to the ground, kept the control knob switched on for 12 seconds, so turning the horizontal stabilizer to the nosedive position.'

and why did he ignore his copilot questions about the practicaluty of doing this??

a reply to: research100

How do we know he did? A tabloid source? The investigators didn't say anything of the sort at any time. They said there was a control input that put them into a nosedive, which is explainable by other than suicide.

We know a nose down input was put in, and that it was 12 seconds, but the preliminary report doesn't say anything about suicide, and the investigators said they can't comment because it didn't come from them.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I haven't seen it elsewhere yet....if I am wrong I wlll apologize

a reply to: research100

Claims like this need to be taken with a grain of salt. who knows what forces have been in action behind the scenes since the plane went down. Malaysia is very much a second world country trying to get into the first world, and will ,if it keeps its nose clean.

Saying something like this could be very much be an act of 'keeping its nose clean."

Case closed for me.

Would have been nice to find the black-boxes, but given their probable depth and location/distance from civilization, at this point I do not expect we will ever recover them.

a reply to: research100

what control knob are you talking about. trim?

a reply to: Nochzwei

There was both a control column input and a trim setting adjustment.

At the height of 1900 ft (approx. 600 m) after reaching the pitch angle of 18° the pilot flying pushed on the control column, which led to a decrease in vertical acceleration of up to 0.5, increase in forward speed and, consequently, automatic retraction of flaps from 15° to 10° at a speed of over 200 knots.
The short-term decrease in engine thrust within 3 seconds resulted in decreasing speed and flaps extension to 15°, although the following crew inputs to regain maximum takeoff/go-around thrust led to speed increase and reiterated automatic flaps retraction to 10°. The flaps remained in the latter configuration until the impact.
The pilot flying, by pulling up the control column, continued climbing with a vertical speed of as much as 16 m/s (3150 ft/m).
At a height of 900 m there was a simultaneous control column nose down input and stabilizer nose down deflection from -2,5 deg (6,5 units) to +2,5 deg (1,5 units). The FDR recorded a nose down stabilizer input from the stabilizer trim switch of the control wheel lasting 12 seconds, while the CVR record contains a specific noise of rotation of the trim wheels located on both sides of the central pedestal. As a result the aircraft, having climbed to about 1000 m, turned into descent with a negative vertical acceleration of -1g. The following crew recovery actions did not allow to avoid an impact with the ground.
The aircraft hit the runway about 120 m from the threshold with a speed of over 600 km/h and over 50 degrees nose down pitch.

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a reply to: iloveolympics

this has not shown up anywhere else so "taken with a grain of salt""" I was just so taken aback when I saw the article, I posted it without thinking...funny thing is I do tend to be a skeptic at heart......I do apologize......will keep an eye out and see if anymore info comes up

a reply to: research100

Another 737 attempting to land at the airport in Osh suffered an overrun a few months ago. As they began to climb one of the pilots was hit by somatogravic illusion. He did basically the same thing, and pushed forward on the controls. The flaps retracted and the thrust was reduced and they settled onto the runway.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Auto air brakes i hv seen but auto flap retraction no.