The real reason for Area 51

If area-51 ever did have aliens or anything of the sort there I think that would be the last place they would have anything like that now. If things like that are going on now it would be in a place that we wouldn't know about, either hidden or obvious. Not meaning to offend anyone, but I think its in bad form to ask anyone if they have held a DoD secret or top secret clearance. And I hope no one who did would ever reply in a forum.

Originally posted by I will Speak the TRUTH

Originally posted by southern_cross3

Top Secret means that you need a Top Secret pass to get in. The workers are just highly skilled engineers from Lockheed, stop bothering them!

No aliens in Area 51! It is Lockheed's test area! Leave it alone! Why can't you people understand that?

Lockheed builds aircraft, Area 51 is owned by Lockheed, Area 51 has a lot of new plane being tested there. They don't want their data stolen, so they build their buildings on government/military soil, does that stop people from going there? No! They also hire EG&G personal for protection, does that stop people, a little. Lockheed had plans stolen from them by Boeing once, now they increased security and gave their workers an 'oath.' Now stop trying to make us break that oath!

First of all Lockheed does NOT own the base! Area 51 is owned by the US Department of Defense. If you worked for them as you claim, you Should have Known that.

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance

He NOT speaketh the truth, but I TRUTHISOUTTHERE have !!

Do you think he knows what Lockhead and Boeing is ?

Or maybe he is just a disgruntled union worker !



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[edit on 22-6-2005 by kinglizard]

Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
He NOT speaketh the truth, but I TRUTHISOUTTHERE have !!

Do you think he knows what Lockhead and Boeing is ?

Or maybe he is just a disgruntled union worker !

I'm very familiar with Lockheed and Boeing! Lockheed built many of the planes that were tested at Area 51, like the fallowing: U-2, A-12 Blackbird, Have Blue, F-117A Nighthawk, ect. It is a proven fact that planes from OTHER contractors, such as: Northrop's Tacit Blue and B-2 Spirit, and Boeing's Bird of Prey were tested at Groom Lake

I Never said Lockheed wasn't an inportant contractor at Area 51. I only said that They do NOT OWN the base!!However, the FACT is This: Area 51 was built with funds from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). the CIA does NOT belong to Lockheed, It belongs the the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

AREA 51 is a part of the Nellis Air Force Range Complex. ALL of the land out there, including Groom Lake, where Area 51 is located belongs the the United States Government. Quit with the Ignorance! Quit with the lies! Quit with the BS!


Non-Lockheed Aircraft at Groom Lake with dates:

February, 1982- 1985:
"TACIT BLUE" (Northrop demonstrator for stealth technology) at Groom . (7)

June, 1983- August 1983:
First flight of HALSOL at Groom Lake. HALSOL was a solar powered high altitude, UAV. The test program ran two months.

1967:
The Defense Intelligence Agency acquires a MIG 21 which it ships to Groom Lake for testing and names the program "Have Doughnut". This is the start of the ongoing MIG testing program that likely runs to this day. (MIG's are Russian)

B-2 1983- present (Source: www.geocities.com... (Note: as with the F-117(untill '91) it is ONLY the Test Aircraft that are at Groom Lake, NOT the Main combat fleet, which is located at Whiteman AFB in Missouri.)) (the B-2 comes from Northrop)

Boeing Bird of Prey 1992-1999 (Global Security.org)

There is the proof that Area 51 is NOT a Lockheed owned base and it certinly is NOT limited to Lockheed built aircraft, as Truthisoutthere has tried to claim! Others, such as Nothrop and Boeing also use the base for testing aircraft. US Intelligence agencies (Like the CIA) also use the base for intelligence related activities, such as the Red Hat Program, which tests Mig's and other foreign aircraft. Lets stick with the proven facts, Shall We?



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[edit on 22-6-2005 by kinglizard]

there are no aliens at Area 51, the closest thing to it is some advanced technology composite materials that allow for shape shifting, that they have yet to perfect or duplicate.

i.e. high tensile strength "metal" that can be deformed and reformed into various shapes while still retaining the strengthand structural integrity of the construction.

I am about 99% positive that they have some of the this material at Area 51 in the advanced airframes shop. Trying to "re-create" this material has caused quite a few claims about toxic chemicals, just as the high speed sandwhich material on the "fast mover".

Did they recover it from Rosewel and have yet to decode the materials secrets, maybe, is it from other sources around the world samples of which have been sent to the US maybe in some case's by nufarious means prompted by the CIA, who knows for sure......

There is proof in the Goverments hands about ET technology, but like I have said before, they don't currently have an exact idea of where it came from and "what" made it.

I agree. I think Area 51 is used to test aircrafts. I also think it is used as a diversion for people to get interested in it. So they will loose focus on other bases in the US.

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Originally posted by sexygeek
i rekon Area 51 is a diversion from the real secret base Area 4

Base 4 is a cover for Base 666 -- but it's a real beast to get in there! I had a devil of a time trying.

[edit on 22-6-2005 by dave_54]

Ok, after reading the threat on this, I'd just like to drop my 2 cents about Area51. Area51 lies within the NTS, The Nevada Test Site, which we all know is a military testing facility, for what the question is?, I'd say Aircraft would be a pretty solid guess. What kind of Aircraft? Well the answer to that presents itself in history doesnt it? The U-2.. The SR-71, The f-117A.. So another question is raised, Why fly in all the workers and just not let them drive in, Security reasons (I work in the field of high end private security contracting) Its easier to fly them into an air field then drive them in and have some sort of security breach, this way they are all in the JANET terminals with ID's on and its effiecient and easy..

Is there something underground? no doubt.. What? try wind tunnels, testing facilities, repair labs, pilot training facilities, do you think they really fly these multi billion dollar aircraft without some sort of training and testing before they go into the sky?

It's an aircraft test facility, period

i think that area 51 is just a test site to test aircrafts if there are ufos there then they are only there to because the gov thinks that they can rebuild it and maybe use it... they might of taken some ttech that we have today off ov them

Originally posted by Velvet1717
i can ashure you of one thing, it has nothing to do with aliens, and i want to hear why it is that you think that,i know it's "the place where they took the aliens from rosewll" well...
Velvet

Originally posted by Velvet1717
Yeah ok but there are no aliens there, it's all airplanes and stuff like that,

Velvet

I see Dr. Spock looking back around the corner with his ears twitching and eyebrow rasied at illogical calls. In other words (I know, coulda started here, heh) how do you, Velvet171, "know there are no aliens there"?

Not instigating, really , I just like clarification

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Misfit

Originally posted by dave_54
Base 4 is a cover for Base 666 -- but it's a real beast to get in there! I had a devil of a time trying.
[edit on 22-6-2005 by dave_54]

This is a joke, right? Also, shouldn't it be Area 4 instead of base 4? For refrence, Area 4 does appear to have much in it. It seems to be part of the nuclear testing range. Based on it's location, it appears to be a support area. I can't find anything that suggests that there is a base in that area. As for your devil of a time trying to get in, I have another explaination: Nellis Air Force Range Security.

They Aren't quite the Demons they seem to be, just over zelios MP's! However, I guarantee they will raise Hell if you try again!

Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Has anyone here worked on aircraft research -- either for the government or for a major aerospace contractor? Second-tier contractor?

Does anyone here have or used to have a clearance, DoD SECRET or better?

I had DOD Top Secret-SCI.

do u really want to get on the base of area 51. if you do here is how.

use there militarys suplies agenst them.
learn where there sensors are. trip wires
and land bombs.
take camo, small field pack, digital camara (note: keep your computer disconected from any outside lines when making copies on your computer to a cd or u could get hacked)

take camo (desert issue)
camo net. so it will defect sensors
small packso u can run. go to ur local military surpluss and
get dummie grinads for smoke bombs. works exceptionally well.
take rope incase u have to tie any up.
feild glasses.
compase.
shovel. for fox hole.

thats all i can tell u or u will get caught then i cant help people to really get on any base

Significance of Dreamland is simple: To test military spyplanes. If they have the extra - terrestrial, we may never know. If they do, it only makes sense why the Government does not release such information to the public.

Could you imagine if you got up in the morning, flicked on the early news, only to find the president addressing the nation telling American citizens that military bases have aliens? Everyone knows for a fact there would be uncontrollable panic. People are too skidish.

Originally posted by shadowstriker
do u really want to get on the base of area 51. if you do here is how.

[snip]

thats all i can tell u or u will get caught then i cant help people to really get on any base

Surely that smiley at the end is your /sarcasm tag, yes?

Misfit

Most of the alien tech that was once at Area 51 have been moved to a location in Utah. It's an underground base, which you can only get to by air.

I saw the same exact post on DreamLandResort.com

Yeah, it was my post.

Oh, I really didn't get a chance to view the username, buddy