Melania's RNC speech versus Michelle Obama's DNC speech

originally posted by: kosmicjack

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
We might as well have some fun with it until it stops being fun. Which happened about 2 months ago

Thank you!

I think this might be worth it after all

:-)

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Priebus says he’d ‘probably’ fire Melania Trump speechwriter over similarities to ’08 address

Republican Party boss Reince Priebus said Tuesday he’d “probably” fire Melania Trump’s speechwriter if it were up to him, after her address came under fire for containing passages similar to the speech first lady Michelle Obama gave in 2008 at the Democratic National Convention.

Speaking at a Bloomberg Politics breakfast on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Priebus said he doesn’t blame Melania Trump.

“Some of these things are pretty common types of themes,” he said, describing her speech as “inspirational” and calling the flap a “distraction” -- while predicting they’d get “back to action this afternoon.”

But he said he’d probably fire the speechwriter.
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"In writing her beautiful speech, Melania's team of writers took notes on her life’s inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking. Melania’s immigrant experience and love for America shone through in her speech, which made it such a success,” the statement read.

originally posted by: knoxie

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a reply to: xuenchen

it kinda is a big deal.


why aren't the trump supporters more concerned? it reeks of sabotage within trumps staff if anything.



eta. and they USED melania

as a democrat, I don't think it was sabotage...I think they hired speech writers "on the cheap" or who were "rushed" for whatever reason....just this morning there were professionals that had worked on previous campaigns that said there are computer programs that automatically go through a speech looking for plagiarized material....obviously, someone didn't do that...to me it was a mistake of mismanagement, pure and simple.

Wait, there's more!

Melania Trump’s Claims She Graduated From College Are About As Credible As Her Speech Last Night

Melania Trump’s professional biography says the wife of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump began modeling at age 16, but she only began working full-time after obtaining a degree. She graduated “in design and architecture at University in Slovenia,” according to the bio as of Monday night:

Slovenian journalists Bojan Pozar and Igor Omerza wrote in their biography on the former fashion model that she “became ― and remained ― a college dropout” after leaving the University of Ljubljana’s architecture school following her freshman year.

Below is their account of this period of her life in the book, Melania Trump ― The Inside Story: From a Slovenian Communist Village to the White House:

In her freshman year, the 19-year old Melanija Knavs attended lectures on the following subjects: elements of architecture, fine arts, fundamentals of technical mechanics, architectural construction, descriptive geometry, mathematics, and an ideological (read “communist”) elective credit called “General Partisan Resistance and Social Self-protection”.

Melanija would have made it to her sophomore year, even having failed 2 exams, but she was supposed to have gotten and held a 1-month internship and kept a journal about it.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

See? Standard fill-in-the-blanks about who you are as a daughter, a wife, a mother, an American. Standard fill-in-the-blanks about what you, as a mother, a wife, and an American want for your children.

All standard framework speeches that tell the American people about who you are within that scope is not plagiarism. I would bet if you go back to Laura Bush's first speech where she presents herself to the American public, it is also within this same framework. Maybe Michelle "plagiarized" Laura's speech, too.

a reply to: jimmyx

This is a result of a tool used to detect plagiarism in text... Source

There is also a plagiarism checker that writers can use. When part of Melania Trump’s speech was placed into the tool on Grammarly.com, the website concluded, “significant plagiarism was detected.”
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“We have found significant plagiarism in your text and have also detected 6 writing issues,” the website said.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That's funny. Did they apply that to Michelle's speech. I can guarantee you that nobody in the media even thought about doing that to her.

This is stupid.

a reply to: queenofswords

Have you actually seen/looked the side-by-side text and video comparisons in this thread and elsewhere?

Seems not.

a reply to: kosmicjack

Not even the birdies singing this morning and you know Twitter is his favorite venue.

a reply to: BlueAjah

That would be her. Per her.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: queenofswords

Have you actually seen/looked the side-by-side text and video comparisons in this thread and elsewhere?

Seems not.

Yes I did. It's still stupid. But, we're not talking about Hillary, or the other speeches, are we? Keep the focus off the speeches about Hillary's failures and Obama's blunders.

There are a lot of very jealous women out there. Melanie is the type of strong woman that a lot of women love to criticize. Why? Because she is beautiful and elegant on top of everything else.

a reply to: Indigo5

Oh...
What about if you let them copy.

🙋 Guilty.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That's funny. Did they apply that to Michelle's speech.

I have no idea... This isn't about her speech, though, is it.

I can guarantee you that nobody in the media even thought about doing that to her.

And I can guarantee you that those on the right PORED over everything Michelle said during the past 8 years.

This is stupid.

Well, take your ball and go home, then. Fact is, there are several places in Melania's speech that were copied, word-for-word from Obama's speech. It really can't be denied when you look at the text.

a reply to: windword

I don't think that's really fair. Character assassination. She didn't sign up for this. She didn't write the speech.

In my mind, it boils down to this...if Trump can't stand up for his wife on this, in the face of public humiliation, how will he stand up for our country? If he can't be a unifier to his own party at the convention, how can he unify our country? If he can't manage his campaign - where he has total power to implement his full vision and complete control - how can he manage the country and, just as critically, unpredictable, hard to control foreign affairs?

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: queenofswords

Have you actually seen/looked the side-by-side text and video comparisons in this thread and elsewhere?

Seems not.

There are a lot of very jealous women out there. Melanie is the type of strong woman that a lot of women love to criticize. Why? Because she is beautiful and elegant on top of everything else.

Yep, just another insult to the working women of America. This won't bode well for the Trump Election. A reaction to blatant elitism.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

And is she accountable for what she says when she claims she wrote it. "With as little help as possible" ???

a reply to: queenofswords

And smart. You forgot smart.

Why ya bringing up Clinton and Obama? The topic here is the speech.

ETA: Oh, I see. Melania did it to take the focus off of them. Yes. That would make sense.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: jimmyx

This is a result of a tool used to detect plagiarism in text... Source

There is also a plagiarism checker that writers can use. When part of Melania Trump’s speech was placed into the tool on Grammarly.com, the website concluded, “significant plagiarism was detected.”
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“We have found significant plagiarism in your text and have also detected 6 writing issues,” the website said.

thanks BH...the pros who are paid big money to work on campaigns said "this is one of the first things checked these days". this brings up in my mind Trump hearing how much these guys cost, and saying to himself and others "screw that, how hard is it to write a speech for my wife", and went with the inexperienced people because they were cheaper.