*****Republican National Convention thread. Let the games begin.*****

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Actually I'm concerned about it too. I hope he doesn't say/do things that could get people killed, even in other countries.
And he could. I hope he will have advisors that will help him be more cautious with his language.

It's not just Trump you have to worry about. It's also those that support him. Trump is just the one who speaks using propaganda that appeals to Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

His supporters ARE Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

A small portion are just as a small portion of Muslims are terrorists.

That is incorrect. That room at the convention hall was packed with them, this country has millions of them out there and there are many of them on this website.

You cannot compare a small portion of a religion to an ideology that has a grip on almost an entire major US political party.

originally posted by: introvert

It's not just Trump you have to worry about. It's also those that support him. Trump is just the one who speaks using propaganda that appeals to Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

His supporters ARE Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

Why is it that many liberals think that republican rhetoric leads to death, but not the democrats. Truymp talikng about illegals and Muslims may lead to violence, but Obama's constant admiration of BLM and claiming there is systemic racism in policing isn't responible for the cop shootings, right?

Also, why does ISIS and Al Queda propaganda read almost exactly like Democratic talking points. Th dems and people like you keep saying how bigotted the country is, and how Islamaphobic the country is, and that is almost line for line what ISIIS repaets. Could it be that that this rhetoric is influencing violence and death.

a reply to: Grambler

Because their authoritarian regime will be much better than the republican authoritarian regime.

They might have cookies.

a reply to: Grambler

You will cherry pick and twist truths until it coincides with your own beliefs

For example...constant admiration of BLM? lofl, ummm, wtf are you talking about?

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Just my thoughts,

If you are comparing extreme terrorist percentage to Muslims over all...its a lot lower of a percentage than Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists percentage to Trump supporters over all.

Disagree.

I think that Trump has trapped the vast majority of his supporters into defending things they otherwise would not defend.

This is how he does it...

He makes some vague/not vague polarizing comment. His supporters rush to defend him by saying people are twisting his words. In the process they look like they are defending something polarizing.

He does it again. And again, and again.

His supporters become so invested having spent so much time defending him, they cannot cut their losses and Trump gets them defend more and more extreme statements.

Result: His supporters look like extremists.

I know plenty of Trump supporters IRL, and not of single one of them is extreme. I think it's unfortunate they let Trump discredit their typically reasonable views.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

You mean he has brainwashed a bunch of sheeple? And now they ARE extremists?

Also, if you are an extremist yourself, then other extremists seem completely normal to you

This just in: Former KKK leader David Duke will be running for the U.S. Senate.

Disappointed Trump didn't pick him for running mate?

JUST KIDDING

I love what Trump’s doing. I think that Trump is a breath of fresh air. I don’t know exactly what he’s going to do when he’s in but I think it’s great what he’s doing. But I tell you something, we have got to continue to take this another step, we have got to continue to go on the offensive in this battle. As far as I’m concerned, I’m going to vote for Trump, I said I supported Trump, I’ve been aligned with Trump from very early in this campaign, as you have, but there’s no question in my mind that we need at least one guy in the United States Congress, whether in the House of Representatives or the Senate, at least one guy that will openly stand up for the rights and the heritage of European-Americans and I believe that the time is right.

www.rightwingwatch.org...

He goes on to say how proud he is to have led the KKK.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Actually I'm concerned about it too. I hope he doesn't say/do things that could get people killed, even in other countries.
And he could. I hope he will have advisors that will help him be more cautious with his language.

It's not just Trump you have to worry about. It's also those that support him. Trump is just the one who speaks using propaganda that appeals to Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

His supporters ARE Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

A small portion are just as a small portion of Muslims are terrorists.

That is incorrect. That room at the convention hall was packed with them, this country has millions of them out there and there are many of them on this website.

You cannot compare a small portion of a religion to an ideology that has a grip on almost an entire major US political party.

Again, this is a matter of opinion and I disagree. See my comment above.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Actually I'm concerned about it too. I hope he doesn't say/do things that could get people killed, even in other countries.
And he could. I hope he will have advisors that will help him be more cautious with his language.

It's not just Trump you have to worry about. It's also those that support him. Trump is just the one who speaks using propaganda that appeals to Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

His supporters ARE Right Wing authoritarian, ultra-nationalist fascists.

That is PROPAGANDA.

. NAME CALLING or STEREOTYPING: Giving a person or an idea a bad label by using an easy to remember pejorative name. This is used to make us reject and condemn a person or idea without examining what the label really means. Examples: "Republican", "Tree-Hugger", "Nazi", "Liberal", "Environmentalist", "Special-Interest Group".

www.uvm.edu...

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: DanDanDat

Well that was a mouthful. I want to see how much of a hypocrite he is. Is that ok with you?
If he's not, then I want to see that too. So much time has passed anyway, people are forgetting that he seems to have blown it off. He's had time to have a staff of 10 working around the clock to clean it all up.

Presidential candidates have alwasys done this. Again, he has made himself an exception to rules. You do know what category that fits into? Entitlement? Rules are for other people?

It's more telling than just dollar figures.

How would cheating on his taxes make him a hypocrite? Has he told you or anyone else that paying your taxes properly is important? Unless that is an important message he is putting out there, than he can’t be considered a hypocrite for cheating on his taxes.

He’s already admitted on many more than one occasion that he is part of the Entitled class. For example he has admitted to bribing politicians like Hillary Clinton to prosper in the Pay To Play environment of New York.

In his speech last night he made a point of the fact that he knows how the system works; and how while it has worked for him it has hurt the little people who can’t defend themselves.

“Rules are for other people” his is whole message; his spin on his own involvement is that he now wants to help the little people and that he can be successful at it because he comes from a position out side of the "other people".

The only real question that remains is whether to believe him or not. Has he decided to come down from his perch on high to help the people who cannot defend themselves from a rigged system? or is he trying to take advantage of them for some other personal reason?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Grambler

Because their authoritarian regime will be much better than the republican authoritarian regime.

They might have cookies.

...we've just had 7 1/2 years of THEIR authoritarian regime...and still no cookies. Just crumbs.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Speak for yourself, I feel fulfilled, thanks Obama

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: MotherMayEye

You mean he has brainwashed a bunch of sheeple? And now they ARE extremists?

Also, if you are an extremist yourself, then other extremists seem completely normal to you

They are wishy washy and temporarily brainwashed. When the Trump fad has passed (whether he wins or not), they will move on to the next political fad easily.

"Also, if you are an extremist yourself, then other extremists seem completely normal to you"

^^Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying I am an extremist?

a reply to: Gryphon66

GMTA... I was thinking last night after the acceptance speech, that surely there must be a Trump Kool-Aid, Trump brand Red White & Blue Trump Kool-Aid.

After the sturm und drang of last night, I wouldn't be surprised that there will soon be another Trump brand product, Trump Xanax.... Trumpers.

The Nazi salute back and forth is now passe, a luxury once affordable when we didn't think things could get that bad here, things like that couldn't happen here. Last night was an endorsing of an authoritarian figure: chants of "Yes you will!", "I am your voice". The relinquishing up of democracy to one person to save, not even the world, but themselves. Jawohl Mein Herr.

And, in America, there might not be book burning, but censorship will consist of lawsuits to bankrupt you

Over the years he has evolved into a calculating operator, a man who nursed a decade-long grudge against a blog while secretly spending millions to destroy it. In 2007, Valleywag, the tech gossip site owned by Gawker Media, noted that Thiel, who had come out to friends but not to the public, was gay. Nine years later, in May, Thiel revealed he’d been funding numerous lawsuits against Gawker, including one involving a sex tape featuring Terry Bollea, also known as Hulk Hogan, that resulted in a $140 million judgment in Bollea’s favor. Gawker filed for bankruptcy in June; founder Nick Denton has indicated that he may file for personal bankruptcy as well. Meanwhile the episode has led to unflattering headlines for Thiel, who defended his involvement in a trial involving a sex tape and a professional wrestler as “one of my greater philanthropic things.”

The Strange Politics of Peter Thiel, Trump’s Most Unlikely Supporter

Don't drink Trump Kool-Aid

a reply to: DanDanDat


What?

a reply to: MotherMayEye


~~~insert emoticon with blank look and little finger in my mouth~~~

a reply to: Grambler

I believe you missed the point and I also believe you are trying to deflect attention on to the democrats.

The point is how the Right Wing engages in specific propaganda tactics to send their message and their message is obviously fascist in nature.

Trying to compare the Democrats to ISIS is just laughable hyperbole.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: DanDanDat


What?

How would cheating on his taxes make him a hypocrite? Has he told you or anyone else that paying your taxes properly is important? Unless that is an important message he is putting out there, than he can’t be considered a hypocrite for cheating on his taxes.

He’s already admitted on many more than one occasion that he is part of the Entitled class. For example he has admitted to bribing politicians like Hillary Clinton to prosper in the Pay To Play environment of New York.

In his speech last night he made a point of the fact that he knows how the system works; and how while it has worked for him it has hurt the little people who can’t defend themselves.

“Rules are for other people” his is whole message; his spin on his own involvement is that he now wants to help the little people and that he can be successful at it because he comes from a position out side of the "other people".

The only real question that remains is whether to believe him or not. Has he decided to come down from his perch on high to help the people who cannot defend themselves from a rigged system? or is he trying to take advantage of them for some other personal reason?

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Grambler

You will cherry pick and twist truths until it coincides with your own beliefs

For example...constant admiration of BLM? lofl, ummm, wtf are you talking about?

www.washingtontimes.com...

dailycaller.com...

www.breitbart.com...

www.breitbart.com...

www.washingtontimes.com...

www.cbsnews.com...

That took me three minutes on Google to find. He has BLM people to the white house several times, he praises them at the memorial for the Dallas cops shot, he routinely commends them for being a great movement.

In addition to this he has said over and over that there is a racial problem with the justice system in thi country, claimed his son would have looked like Trayvon, had the "Beer Summit" and many other racial matters that deal with police. Heck, even he said one of the biggest issues for him was solving the racial disparity in the justice system.

But you are right, I made it all up.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: IAMTAT

Speak for yourself, I feel fulfilled, thanks Obama

Obama's fascist regime feeds him another free cookie for his support.