Are Fulfilled Prophecies in the Bible Actually "Prophecies"?

The Bible is a very complicated matter in which is believed to be a cover in relation to an existence who believe in no other to which there is no fault because the Bible says so. The complication lies in how the Bible came to be the Bible which is very difficult to explain without going too far. The Bible is similar to a pile of compost meaning its origin and actual meaning is lost in time yet still it shows what it is on the surface.

For instance religion law and order seems to be the main topic cleverly advising and molding an existence to which Heaven and Hell are the deciding factors there is little information about. The reason for such incompleteness of what should be the main topic is a very one sided division which is not a fault either but by design.

Explaining the Bible is like standing back from the apparent space surroundings including all those rocks (to be vague) and pointing at the Bible saying that book is trying to explain all of this. Then turning around to say and all of that.
It is all in the book but again it is like a pile of compost.
The point is meaning the compost analogy that the Bible serves no purpose. It did and it always did but it no longer does which should be apparent to those who read it yet not for no other reason other than showing ignorance.
To avoid being a little off topic prophecies are very different in the sense of purpose because all prophecies are different in how they are presented meaning some are lies revealing deception of which seem to have occurred while some are deceptively instructing and then the riddles which are very difficult to completely and correctly translate because they are not meant for people. There are several like young boys and girls very few and far between amongst an entire existence of children controlling and deceiving which is difficult to believe but it is happening. Beware of the children no matter what age they are.

It's starting to down on me that the Bible was never ment to be "deciphered" just read and adhered to by the main public/church etc.

Think about it, how many have read it/different sources ie, dead sea scrolls/language's etc and de-coded it yet still have no real answers?.. only more questions.

I'm betting millions since it came around,,the only ones that probably know what it's all about are secret societies and the Vatican.

Hope you understand what i'm getting at.

Another example of misleading prophecy is the book DANTE'S INFERNO with no disrespect meant meaning it is about information misunderstood yet with a clever analyses. The book is not readable on my behalf due to the misleading information already known so there is no need but as an example a few excerpts to explain the misunderstandings.
Misers and spendthrifts are explained as those who roll stones to crash against one another who are opposites in life and death. They abuse material goods.

That is a very complicated way yet clever way of explaining children.

a reply to: Klassified
A correction of my own post, for the record;

No place in scripture says that humans must have the ability to exterminate themselves. Even if it did, humans have always had the ability to exterminate themselves. We're just much more efficient at it now. The scripture says no flesh would be saved if "god" didn't interfere. The aforementioned is assumption, and not scripture.

We have not always had the ability to exterminate ourselves(as a species), in the sense Infolurker is speaking of. My bad for lack of reading comprehension. However, we have had it for a long time now. But as I said, the verse being referred to doesn't say that to start with. It says...
"And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days."
What is being referred to here in Mark 13(and Matthew 24) is "God's wrath" spoken of in the book of Revelations. It has nothing to do with us exterminating ourselves, and everything to do with God murdering 2/3 or more of the worlds population.

a reply to: DarkvsLight29

If you read the DSS it becomes obvious that the Qumran community produced the Nazarenes and it would appear Jesus is a typological story based on the "Teacher of Righteousness."

The wicked priest= Ananias or Caiphas

The lying tongue, comedian, etc= Paul


But nobody WANTS to figure it out they want to believe that Jesus of the Gospels was a historical figure.

If he was then the Scrolls would say so because they are from the time he was supposed to have lived.

And they did. He just didn't live at the time we are told and wasn't a god.

Typology is the key.

a reply to: Klassified

The only grounds you can state this on is because we are the once who depict what is the truth and content.


We are the once who Select and discard predictions. Our assumtions could be wrong and the Bible prediction could be actual.


Man wrote the bible based on the Word of God. Our preception of the scripture is based on Our so called objective experts.

These two dont mix well.

a reply to: spy66

Man wrote the bible based on the Word of God.

What does that mean? Sounds pretty circular.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: spy66

Man wrote the bible based on the Word of God.

What does that mean? Sounds pretty circular.

It means the author was the Holy Spirit, men just held the writing utensils.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

Thanks for speaking for others! They might not know what they really mean without your help! Must stay on proper rhetoric!

Still sounds pretty circular, don't you think? "Man wrote the bible based on the Word of God, so the Bible is the Word of God." Signed, sealed and delivered!

a reply to: Rtardx

I do not believe that prophecy exists. People can make educated predictions and guesses. But there is so much obscurity in the bible, and other ancient texts, they could apply to a whole variety of situations. The simple fact is every generation always believes they are the last generation yet 2000 years after Christ, we are still here.

Anything that comes to pass was because of human nature, not because of any divine foreknowledge. Some humans have massive egos and have a burning desire to be a part of something big, massive. They will attempt to fulfill those so-called prophecies in order to get their name in the history books. They will also change, rewrite, add and remove from them. There are no surviving originals. There is absolutely nothing divine about what is written, and what occurs. It is all human nature.

a reply to: infolurker

We currently live in the best era of human history. People have unprecedented freedoms, we have human rights. People are allowed to be themselves, providing they do not infringe on the human rights of others. Women are treated as equals in most Western nations. We have everything that men have now. Look at our technological achievements, our scientific discoveries. Never before has humanity been in such a position.

That is not to say that things are perfect. They are far from it. There are many, many failings, there are parts of the world who are stuck in the past and in the west there are people who are trying to destroy everything good people have built for themselves.

We do not, never have, and never will live in a perfect world. Human nature will not change, but just as there are bad people who think only about themselves, and will not care about destroying others to get what they want, there are good people who care about others needs and devote their lives to them. But as a species overall, we are learning, we are improving. Sometimes we will fall, and sometimes tragically so, but we always get back up.

The world is not nearly as bad as the media portrays it to be. Fear sells, fear keeps people under control. Religion is just one of many tools used to keep people under control. Once you realise there are more good people than bad, then you should have hope for our future. I believe there will be an end times of sorts - the end of the elites who are abusing their power over us. I don't know if it will be in our lifetime, but eventually they will be defeated.

I will leave you with the words of a modern-day visionary, not a prophet, but observers of humanity: Iron Maiden.

So understand don't waste your time
Always searching for those wasted years
Face up, make your stand
And realize you're living in the golden years

a reply to: spy66

The only grounds you can state this on is because we are the once who depict what is the truth and content.

And who else would there be to "depict what is the truth and content"? Obviously not god, or there wouldn't be so much division in the church on doctrine, theology, and prophecy. So it would seem it is up to us to figure it out for ourselves.

We are the once who Select and discard predictions. Our assumtions could be wrong and the Bible prediction could be actual.

Actual what?

Man wrote the bible based on the Word of God. Our preception of the scripture is based on Our so called objective experts.

Most peoples "perception" of scripture is their desire for it to be true.

a reply to: Klassified

Most peoples "perception" of scripture is their desire for it to be true.

I Guess you nailed it With this comment. I Guess the truth is that we dont see the forest for all the trees. In other Words we dont see the truth do to all Our expert opinions.


We cant be objective about this nor have we ever been. When i mention (we) i mean People who think they know the historical truth.
Our historical truth is politicaly motivated and subjective.

I'm agnostic, but what about the rfid chip/mark of the beast that's unfolding now? That's pretty specific.
And also, the NT states many times that satan rules the world, and there is satanic symbolism in the media and government (mostly upside down pentagrams)

originally posted by: VioletSkies
I'm agnostic, but what about the rfid chip/mark of the beast that's unfolding now? That's pretty specific.
And also, the NT states many times that satan rules the world, and there is satanic symbolism in the media and government (mostly upside down pentagrams)

Satan does rule the world, I mean the kingdoms/nations of this Earth. Research the Illuminati.

a reply to: VioletSkies

I'm not saying that's BS, But it's just sooo obvious. Everyone knows about it, The elites know about it and how it clearly relates to the bible. It's like they'll purposely introduce these concepts to the populace just so they can make biblical correlations with it. So what if rfid chips come out and it is "predicted" in the bible. It doesn't prove the bible is the genuine article, Fulfilled prophecies don't even necessarily prove the bible is the one and only true word of god, and the fact that millions jump to that conclusion is pure naivety and assumption.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

I've know about the 'illuminati' for about 5 years now. I dont think there is an actual group called the illuminati. That's just what we know the satanic elite as. Like a stage name of sorts.

a reply to: Rtardx
What's obvious?
Idk what to believe tbh. Fundamentalism Christianity and it's followers kinda repulse me tho

originally posted by: VioletSkies
a reply to: NOTurTypical

I've know about the 'illuminati' for about 5 years now. I dont think there is an actual group called the illuminati. That's just what we know the satanic elite as. Like a stage name of sorts.

That's what they call themselves, the "Illuminated Ones".

a reply to: VioletSkies

I'm saying it's obvious because they've made theirselves so easily known, all this knowledge we have access to is just too easily accessible it fires up a red flag. The whole rfid chip thing has appeared on fox news where people have even had discussions about its biblical implications. And even then, People will watch this stuff on tv and act as though they've been the secret knowledge of the universe and what they see on tv is exactly what's happening in reality.

a reply to: Rtardx

I'm not from America, where they talking about the bible on fox news? I hear that they not allowed to talk about the bible or they mock it in mainstream media?