Donald Trump: Make America Safe Again - The Most Sane Response to Dallas

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: savemebarry

There is not one bit of logical reasoning or proof that Trump is racist.


correcting post - just caught on to the sarcasm

haha

Damn it

edited out reply...

a reply to: SpecialSauce

Why don't you go back to the "jokes" forum where most of your contributions are.

Jokes from a joke.

originally posted by: LifeMode
Focusing on social welfare instead of creating wealth and prosperity. That is the fundamental problem. Jobs won't stop killings involving mental illness but it will clean up a lot of these failing cities. Our economy is not moving. Raising wages won't fix it. Free college won't fix it. We have to expand the economy and stop giving it away on the backs of or these cities.

Removing barriers to entry is how you create a more equitable market that can benefit all. Education is a barrier to entry, both in effort and cost. While the effort can't be reduced by much, cost certainly can be.

If you do that, you ultimately create more jobs, which eventually helps the economy and turns those cities around.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Having a job won't change people how people treat you because of your skin tone or ethnic heritage.

a reply to: Aazadan

Valid point

originally posted by: introvert
I watched the video and it appears that not only did Trump say we need to stand with our police forces, but also hinted that we must also address cases like what happened in Minnesota and Louisiana.

Overall, it was a nice emotional piece, but he did not offer any substance as to how to solve those issues.

It was a very "cookie-cutter" response that I would say is unremarkable.

How is someone supposed to have the answers, when making a statement like that. It's not a snap decision, is it.It's building policy, making the effort, and not down to a single statement.

I am at a loss as to why people are consumed by dislike for the bloke, he can do a lot with your support. What can the alternatives do but force change on you.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: savemebarry

Ha?

That's going to work well, I suppose.

but you need two.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Bull. Having a job gives people a sense of self worth. It grounds them, they slowly believe in themselves again, and they start trying harder to better themselves.

I've seen it many times. We have hired folks who were at the end of their ropes and nobody would give them a chance. Within months, the personal transformation is quite noticeable. They hold their heads higher.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: LifeMode
Focusing on social welfare instead of creating wealth and prosperity. That is the fundamental problem. Jobs won't stop killings involving mental illness but it will clean up a lot of these failing cities. Our economy is not moving. Raising wages won't fix it. Free college won't fix it. We have to expand the economy and stop giving it away on the backs of or these cities.

Removing barriers to entry is how you create a more equitable market that can benefit all. Education is a barrier to entry, both in effort and cost. While the effort can't be reduced by much, cost certainly can be.

If you do that, you ultimately create more jobs, which eventually helps the economy and turns those cities around.

Did you just say stop educating people?

I hope not. All the world needs is more uneducated people running things..

a reply to: savemebarry

I thought he was supposed to be different?

Why the canned response that plays on emotions like a seasoned politician?

a reply to: savemebarry

Perhaps you can express yourself in a way I can understand you if you wish to get a reply.
Until then.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Seriously, these criticisms show a total lack of observation and show that some have not paid one bit of attention to what Trump has been saying for a long time.

Everything he says in this video is EXACTLY what he has been basing his entire campaign on and has been saying for years previously, and yet haters claim someone put words in his mouth. All along Trump has been saying that the social ills of this country are based on hopelessness and poverty. He has laid out plans to strengthen our economy, create jobs, and give people a sense of self worth and pride in our country again. With all of that comes a strong, united, peaceful society.

THIS IS WHAT TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS.
Are some people seriously not paying attention?

I missed this post before. But Exactly. Spot on.

Why people are so reluctant for real progress, I can sort of understand -fed lies believe the BS... But why they refuse to even see the truth, that I will never get..

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Bull. Having a job gives people a sense of self worth. It grounds them, they slowly believe in themselves again, and they start trying harder to better themselves.

I've seen it many times. We have hired folks who were at the end of their ropes and nobody would give them a chance. Within months, the personal transformation is quite noticeable. They hold their heads higher.

I have a college educated black friend who actually works at a university. He's still experiences life differently than I do because of his skin color.

He's actually had more education than I have.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: BlueAjah

Having a job won't change people how people treat you because of your skin tone or ethnic heritage.

The issue is the persecution complex that is creating the perception of racism. There is so much resentment by people who have somehow convinced themselves that others think they are inferior, that they have created violent racist movements, such as BLM. The issue is also poverty that has caused increases in crime and related violence, that has put law enforcement on edge. The resulting issue is a distrust between law enforcement and everyone else.
And - it goes soo much deeper than even that.

So, if the economy improves, people have jobs, there is less poverty, less crime, increased self confidence and sense of self worth. People don't have to feel downtrodden and hopeless. Less crime means less tense law enforcement.

It is not easy, and it won't happen overnight.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: savemebarry

I thought he was supposed to be different?

Why the canned response that plays on emotions like a seasoned politician?

Do you really see someone who is being manipulated or reading a script, when every other thing he says is apparently over the top, out of line, and otherwise real?

He's saying something in respect to a tragic event. Should he pull faces and laugh? have a honking red nose and after everything honk it? Any respectful prose will be similar. I am sick of seeing articulate liars posing as politicians recite similar things, but they are indeed actors given a script. I think this, from Trump, is the more honest thing out of all of this.

And if he is merely playing ball, well he is still a shed load better of an option than the rest. Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them...

a reply to: savemebarry

Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them...

Never ever trust a poker player.....lol...are you saying that Trumps poker face is better than the others therefor more trustworthy ?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I thought universities were the bastion of progressive ideology.

Incredible insight there.

The factory I work for is more inclusive than university .

Will wonders never cease?

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: savemebarry

Perhaps you can express yourself in a way I can understand you if you wish to get a reply.
Until then.

ME: So you hate trump, how would you do things then?
YOU: HA?

Yeah express MYSELF..

funny thread..

a reply to: savemebarry

Do you really see someone who is being manipulated or reading a script

Yes. That is exactly what he did.

He's saying something in respect to a tragic event. Should he pull faces and laugh?

No, but his speech should not be lauded as the "most sane" response when it is nothing remarkable or different than that of any other politician.

I am sick of seeing articulate liars posing as politicians recite similar things, but they are indeed actors given a script. I think this, from Trump, is the more honest thing out of all of this.

He is an actor that read from a script.

And if he is merely playing ball, well he is still a shed load better of an option than the rest. Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them...

So you admit he may be playing the game he swore he wouldn't play?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: savemebarry

Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them...

Never ever trust a poker player.....lol...are you saying that Trumps poker face is better than the others therefor more trustworthy ?

Politics and poker. There is little difference really. But an honest player is better than someone who has an ace up his sleeve.


And lets face it, it is Trump's honesty that has made him the enemy. The rest will smile and lie to your face.