Giant Noah’s Ark Attraction In Kentucky Features Caged Dinosaurs

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That would explain it. Definitely a pushed agenda then.

Never been there. Only been to Pennsylvania, New Jersey and driven around Lake Ontario. I'm from the UK lol.

Yeah, fly over country gets a little weird.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
Only been to Pennsylvania, New Jersey...

Not sure how you came to my state and made it out alive. Give me a buzz next time you pass through, I can save you the expense of a round trip ticket.

a reply to: dawnstar

Yep, that's about the size of it.

I've still never heard a good explanation for the olive branch at the end of the story, either.

Not to mention the problem of top-soil. A hard rain that lasts 40 days / nights would have washed all of the worlds topsoil out to sea.

It must have been crazy on board that thing, what with the 400,000+ varieties of insect who don't swim.

a reply to: [post=20955405]bknapple32[/ sorry, what is obvious? t] is it what scientist have proven? I' studied creationism for a spell and got mind warped so what exactly irks you?
I thought this was a discussion on dinosaurs.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Krazysh0t

But that's the difference. Non-profit vs for-profit. I just don't understand how they can possibly justify it. Saying "it promotes tourism" is an excuse to push their religious dogma, in my opinion.

I agree with you.

There is a legal concept called a "bonafide occupational qualification" that allows employers to discriminate based on protected class (gender, race, religion, etc.), however, I think they would have one helluva hard time proving that a BOQ exists for people who sweep the floors or sell tickets at a Creation Museum.

Heck, even Hooters doesn't want to risk going to court to prove a BOQ for their waitresses, so they have tended to settle out of court when they get sued.

originally posted by: [post=20955302]DanDanDat

Why does it matter? That was my question; 'Where does the passion come from that causes someone to seek out, read, cut up, make a post about and comment on for hours regarding subject matter that they find silly?'

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the "passion" probably comes from one's immediate environment, either presently or while growing up.

Having crazy fundamentalist parents and lunatic family members will do that to a person.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I was with an Italian family who were originally from the Bronx. I'm sure I was in danger from them, more than anyone else lol.

a reply to: Greggers

It just reeks of favouritism.

I couldn't care less what the theme park is. But the fact it's religious in nature, discriminates against employing someone based on religious (or lack thereof) views and a for-profit business who got tax exemption, is what really annoys me.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Greggers

It just reeks of favouritism.

I couldn't care less what the theme park is. But the fact it's religious in nature, discriminates against employing someone based on religious (or lack thereof) views and a for-profit business who got tax exemption, is what really annoys me.

...implying that anyone actually wants to work there.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Greggers

It just reeks of favouritism.

I couldn't care less what the theme park is. But the fact it's religious in nature, discriminates against employing someone based on religious (or lack thereof) views and a for-profit business who got tax exemption, is what really annoys me.

...implying that anyone actually wants to work there.

If I lived there and there was no other work available, I would. It is just a theme park (if they weren't so obviously pushing the religious agenda).

ETA: The above doesn't quite sound right after I read it out loud. Hopefully you get the jist of what I meant.

The age of reason, I fear, has passed. It's disturbing to see grown adults take this nonsense seriously and then to pass it down to gullible children as fact.
It seems fundies will do anything for money, including lying to brainwash children, all the while pretending to be righteous and holy. Sickening!

Hey, we should really petition to shut down this harmful museum. I mean, Palestinians are being taught to blow up Israelis in elementary school. How can they focus on that wit these harmful distractions?

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Greggers

It just reeks of favouritism.

I couldn't care less what the theme park is. But the fact it's religious in nature, discriminates against employing someone based on religious (or lack thereof) views and a for-profit business who got tax exemption, is what really annoys me.

...implying that anyone actually wants to work there.

I'll work there if I can have free dinosaur rides!

originally posted by: flyingfish
The age of reason, I fear, has passed. It's disturbing to see grown adults take this nonsense seriously and then to pass it down to gullible children as fact.
It seems fundies will do anything for money, including lying to brainwash children, all the while pretending to be righteous and holy. Sickening!

This isn't the age of reason. It's the Information Age. Some of it is bad, some of it is good. Either way, it spreads.

originally posted by: flyingfish
The age of reason, I fear, has passed. It's disturbing to see grown adults take this nonsense seriously and then to pass it down to gullible children as fact.
It seems fundies will do anything for money, including lying to brainwash children, all the while pretending to be righteous and holy. Sickening!

The creation museum is a step backwards for logic, but I am heartened to see fewer creationists every year.

When I was growing up, no one challenged my mother on her creationist beliefs. She and many other Christians have lived most of their lives in an insulated little bubble where everyone they associated with vocally treated Evolution as "the big lie," and they rarely had to defend their position intellectually with non-believers.

Then, the internet happened.

The internet has allowed everyone's ideas to co-mingle in a way that was never possible before, such that the ignorance of creationism simply cannot persist the way it could in the past. Oh, don't get me wrong -- it's still alive and well, as can be proven by the myriad threads on this forum.

But what I mean is that fewer people believe that nonsense every year. That's a good thing. And the Creation Museum isn't going to convince anyone of anything.

The only people going there are True Believers. Or maybe people who want to ride a dinosaur.

8-10 million species CURRENTLY on this earth. 1 male + 1 female of each would mean that they needed to fit at least 16 million animals on that boat. So...

STEP 1 - Build a big ass boat;

STEP 2 - Identify the 8-10 million distinct animal species on the planet, and capture 1 male and 1 female of each species;

STEP 3 - Transport 16 million+ animal species across continents and oceans to "the ark";

STEP 4 - Find and store adequate food stores to sustain 16 million+ animals for several months;

STEP 5 - Heave ho! Take float, and stay afloat with billions of pounds animals, making sure that NONE die;

STEP 6 - Upon landing, returning 16 million+ animals to their original homes, across continents and oceans, making sure that none starve despite their natural habitat and food chains are non-existent;

People really believe this stuff?

16 million animals is an extraordinary number. As a comparison, the San Diego Zoo, the largest in the world, houses approximately 3,700 animals, representing approximately 650 animal species, i.e. we're looking at catching, transporting, housing, and maintaining an animal population over 4,000 times the total animal population of the largest zoo in the world.

Just as a reference, This is approximately 110,000 people:


This is approximately 16 million people:


If anyone could pull off the above feat, I'll admit defeat, put on a dress on Sunday, (yuck!) and go to church.

a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

I think if you care enough about this issue to ask around, I don't so it's of no importance to me in the slightest, you'd find that few, obviously there are some, as a percentage believe the tale of Noah and his ark. At best, it's a childs tale, believed in much the same vein as Santa, or the Easter Bunny.

Not sure why this topic is even a thing. If someone wants to believe that Noah built his self a yacht for the purposes of saving a bunch of critters, at the end of the day, it matters not in the slightest to me, other than as a passing oddity to shake my head over.

Though the tax exempt thingy raises my eyebrow a might.

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: Krazysh0t

For me, it's that he built it (partially) with Federal grant money.

Actually, it was state money from Kentucky in the form of tax rebates and relief.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Lol. I wonder if Mr. Ham knows that dinosaurs are HUGE and many wouldn't fit on the ark.

Why wouldn't Noah take juvenile samples of every creature? That's what I would do. Saves space, they have a longer breeding life ahead of them than the mature animals, they wouldn't eat as much, and would be much more docile.

Why would he take adults of any of the creatures? Makes no sense.

a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

8-10 million species CURRENTLY on this earth. 1 male + 1 female of each would mean that they needed to fit at least 16 million animals on that boat. So...

I think you misread the text in Genesis.