Police Shoot Boyfriend For Grabbing Requested ID

originally posted by: FraggleRock

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Word is coming out from the Sheriff that this man did not have a ccw permit. The plot thickens?
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In the State of Minnesota a resident applies for a ccw permit with the sheriff department in the county in which they reside. The Ramsey County sheriffs department stating they didn't issue the permit does not mean Philando Castile did not have a ccw permit. It simply means they were not the county that issued it.

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I live in Minnesota and the local news has been stating that Hennepin County had confirmed they issued the permit.

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a reply to: odzeandennz

I was wondering that myself..it seem's that police dept likes to pick low hanging fruit with pretty much frivolous traffic stops. I don't know if it's race related or more "easy pickens"

originally posted by: shredderofsouls
Tell me again how race is not an issue.

Oh ... I believe you. Race IS an issue.



Remember these animals and what they did? Maybe ... that's why.

so, what`s the point of even having a ccw if the police are just going to kill you anyways like a common thug with an illegal weapon?
The NRA should be all over this, why aren`t they?

a reply to: shredderofsouls
How was she calm as a cucumber? Would you live feed to facebook when your loved ones has been shot and you have a baby in the car. Something is definitely wrong. Why is this happening over and over and over and over again? Something is definitely wrong with all of these incidents. 4 cops pinning a guy down and you shoot him in the back and chest? This isn't logical. This isn't racial hatred. Brainwashed? Mk-ultra?

I just saw a clip on CNN of an exchange between Van Jones, Harry Houck and another guy discussing this case. It was CRAZY. Houck is white the other two are black. Houck, a retired LEO and now an analyst for CNN, was hollering and interrupting, making mocking facial gestures, he was red-faced and apoplectic. The other two, lawyers, were being very polite and calm, just trying to repeatedly make their points, calling him sir even. The anchor had to intercede repeatedly to tell Houck to let them finish their comments.

It was uncomfortable and so very revealing. And then - Jones called him on it. He told Houck that the exchange - documented on national television, where all the parties are equal in authority and status and simply trying to have a discussion but one party, the LEO, couldn't or wouldn't be civilized or try to have a calm discussion - was totally indicative of what this country is facing with the culture of LEO. And to try to imagine how that might translate onto the streets when black people and LEO interact.

He dropped the mic.

so was there a broken tail light, as stated by the officer?

did the dept look into the LEO falsified a reason to pull this person over?

why arent there pictures of the broken tail light?

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: shredderofsouls

I don't see any evidence this man was shot for racial reasons. He was shot by an officer who is an idiot which could (sadly) happen to any of us.

This is tragic and complete BS, but doesn't requite a racial spin.



ETA: I see you edited out your racial spin...good for you.

Although it is hypothetically true that any person could be shot by the police, the stigma which surrounds Black people in America leads to a disproportionate amount of Blacks being shot by cops. In other words, a cop doesn't have to shoot a person specifically because of their skin color - but because of the racial stereotypes that have been embedded into the average American's psyche, a cop is more likely to be on guard and make fatal mistakes around Black people.

It is for this same reason that uninvolved citizens will justify heinous acts such as this by pulling the victims' past arrest record; yet when the history of violence against Blacks in America is brought up, those same people will say "Leave the past in the past," or something along those lines.

The American psyche is skewed in that people would rather emphasize with police officers (BlueLivesMatter) when there is no epidemic of police officers being killed.

When slavery was "abolished", when "Civil Rights" were granted, when a Black man was "voted" into office, these are supposed to be milestones... milestones that do not reflect the reality that slavery is still going on in America through the cooperation of our criminal justice system with the prison-industrial complex, that Civil Rights have not addressed the plight of BLACK PEOPLE in America, that Barack Obama has done something(s) specific for every "minority" group in America but Black people.

This site amuses me more and more with time... the amount of denial that goes on among you "aware" individuals is sickening.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
First she said the cop killed him. Nope. The guy's moaning. Then she said the cop shot his arm off. Nope. His arm is still there. "Please don't tell me he killed him." Duh. Can't you hear him making noise?

Petty nitpicking over words used by a traumatized person doesn't address the problem here. Denial is causing you to ignore the situation and focus in on something ridiculous.

a reply to: prepared4truth

Yes...there was a study where white people were shown pictures of black and white children:

A new study suggests that people are more likely to misidentify a toy as a weapon after seeing a Black face than a White face, even when the face in question is that of a five-year-old child.

The research is published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science.

“Our findings suggest that, although young children are typically viewed as harmless and innocent, seeing faces of five-year-old Black boys appears to trigger thoughts of guns and violence,” said lead study author Andrew Todd, an assistant professor of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of Iowa.

The researchers presented 64 White college students with two images that flashed on a monitor in quick succession. The students saw the first image — a photograph of a child’s face – which they were told to ignore because it purportedly just signaled that the second image was about to appear. When the second image popped up, participants were supposed to indicate whether it showed a gun or a toy, such as a rattle. The photographs of children’s faces included six images of Black five-year-old boys and six images of White five-year-old boys.

The data revealed that the student participants tended to be quicker at categorizing guns after seeing a Black child’s face than after seeing a White child’s face. Participants also mistakenly categorized toys as weapons more often after seeing images of Black boys than after seeing images of White boys.

However, they mistakenly categorized guns as toys more often after seeing a White child’s face than after seeing a Black child’s face.

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So this wasn't some willy-nilly jackerjack science experiment run out of someone's basement. I think it sheds a little bit of uncomfortable light on what's really going on in America.

No one wants to admit bias, no one wants to admit racism exists.

Well, if we ignore it and never talk about it -- it'll continue to fester.

Was this a case of the cop being antsy due to the guy's race? Maybe. More research is clearly needed -- but early signs indicate that sadly due to his race he's more likely to be seen as a threat.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: butcherguy
When a cop pulls a boo-boo, people can die.

It's ok, the union will pay off the prosecutor.

OH no no.. the officer didnt INTEND to kill anyone. theres no intent so it was just incompitence was all.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

But blacks also react negatively to pictures of other blacks so, it's definitely got to have a systemic impact. It's not a white versus black thing it's simply a racial thing, in the sense that there is modern human prejudice against blacks that should be acknowledged and guarded against, particularly when it comes to our systems and operations.

Her boyfriend was dying, and the first thing she thinks of doing is start videoing it?
She did not even try to help him? To stop the bleeding? To wake up the officer and say call a darn ambulance NOW?

Her attitude seemed strange. When she started "grieving", she filmed herself? It almost seemed like she was thinking how to act this out.

Then she posts it to Facebook?????

Sorry, but losing a loved one - not the time to be thinking about Facebook. Geez!!!!!!

What is WRONG with people today? It's like the twilight zone. There is no reality if its not on Facebook?

a reply to: BlueAjah

It was a live feed.

Just had a good conversation with a part time officer here at work and we discussed the same thing. The mad is dying. Neither officer nor the girlfriend are worried about his welfare.

a reply to: kosmicjack

It's true, Black people also react negatively to other Black people. Instead of covering up America's past, we really need to dig deep and figure out how to change this systemic problem.

Because of America's history being so negative toward Black people, these biases against Black people in America persist among all groups of Americans. I'm not just talking about slavery- post slavery, there has been a lot of propaganda aimed at painting Black Americans as criminal and not only have White people fallen for it, Blacks have as well.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: MystikMushroom

But blacks also react negatively to pictures of other blacks so, it's definitely got to have a systemic impact. It's not a white versus black thing it's simply a racial thing, in the sense that there is modern human prejudice against blacks that should be acknowledged and guarded against, particularly when it comes to our systems and operations.

Well if were going to be scientific we need to say ETHNIC GROUPS because theres ONE RACE on the planet.

originally posted by: Gin
a reply to: everyone

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I... don't know what to say.
What??
The world is insane. No wonder our police forces are in the state they are in.