Another police involved shooting - Baton Rouge Police Shoot Alton Sterling

a reply to: kosmicjack

Sunset curfew needs to go into effect right now to keep violent protesters and looters from co-opting a peaceful protest and having a field day.

In Ferguson looters came from miles around to take advantage of the chaos.

a reply to: abe froman

Just re-watched the new video a few times.

Watch the officer's hand when he goes to retrieve the gun from the suspect.

You see the officers hand THE WHOLE TIME, it doesn't disappear when it enters the pocket, because the officer didn't have to reach in, that gun was already coming out.

a reply to: kosmicjack

To me, that new video clearly shows his right hand was maneuvering for his pocket...

Also, based on other videos the officer was able to get the gun with two fingers which means it was either out of the pocket or almost out of the pocket.

a reply to: abe froman

If you dont want trouble then dont murder people

Who among us would volunteer for the same job as these officers? Until recently, BR cops made a very low wage and most had to and still do supplement their income with off duty work.

In Baton Rouge you have notorious ghettos like the Bottoms, Mayfair, Bootstown, Bankstown, Zion City. And that's just a few of more than a dozen. All areas I have been to in my previous job. The poverty and desperation in these areas, I would argue, equals any third world country, except for the sewage option. But, even then, I've been in houses with no running water, no furniture.

If people in BR want to protest, they would do better protesting the injustice of unemployment, a failed education system and pervasive poverty that exists there since desegregation efforts. Once desegregation and forced busing came about in the 80s, requiring busing from one area to another, across town, the tax base to fund education was gutted. BR experienced white flight like no other city in the country. People were just not willing to vote for funding to send their kids across town. Not even blacks. Now, anyone who can sends their kids to private school. What's left is the crumbling infrastructure of a dysfunctional, union-controlled school system that's damning these kids to a lifetime of selling CDs on the street corner.

When I google images for public schools in Baton Rouge I don't see many actual facilities. There's a reason for that.

a reply to: khnum

Oh?

You planning on going to loot in Chicago?

They murder a few every weekend there.

Or do you only support looting when it supports anti-authority, anti-police agendas?

If the cop was black would you still support the violence and looting?

a reply to: abe froman

I support an unemployed mans attempt to get some money by selling cd's to support his 15 year old son without being summarily executed,actually I support the rule of law but as the last 24 hours demonstrates that no longer exists in the USA

a reply to: khnum

That appeal to emotion is compelling. No doubt, and it's my natural go to. But then reason kicks in and I think it's too bad Sterling didn't think of his son when he resisted multiple times.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I obviously dont want cities like yours to burn but until you get independent enquiries analysing these incidents instead of the Police or City I can understand the resentment as the findings are always the same.

a reply to: khnum

Well, fortunately, in this case, there will be an independent investigation.

These cops won’t be convicted of anything on this one.

Cops have to commit outright direct murder to ever be convicted like the one in I think it was S Carolina where the cop shot the guy running away and even then they rarely get convicted

These cops will get off without a doubt because the guy was fighting them

The cops will just say they felt threatened by this guy and no American jury in the country will convict them

a reply to: khnum

"Summarily executed" ? Your dictionary run out of batteries or something?

He resisted arrest while armed.

He was warned to stop struggling.

He refused.

It looks like he was reaching for that gun, multiple times.

He was tazed first but it didn't work.

None of this fits your hyperbole.

a reply to: abe froman

Well, that's the catch right? Everyone sees something different. It's what makes these events so incendiary. Hell, I've changed my mind a few times just today. The officers have no such luxury. Are there rogue cops? Sure. Are these them? Not in my opinion. Look at all the videos, their reactions after firing their gun. These guys are probably puking in a toilet somewhere due to stress and shock from the event and fear of the fallout. Meanwhile, their wives are probably packing up and making phone calls for the family to go into hiding.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I have just seen this video on the News over here in the UK and was literally left feeling ill at seeing a fully restrained man whom held down by two officers with his hand's behind him being executed in cold blood, this is murder plain and simple.

Even had this guy been a violent criminal this would not have been acceptable and I can cetainly see why the black community of the US are growing increasingly angry over this, now this video is being shown around the world so if this is covered up despite such clear and graphic shocking evidence showing a summary execution/murder of a defenseless man then this will reflect extremely poorly on the state of Louisiana as well as the entire US making a mockery of it's justice system and giving other nation's even more reason not to extradite any wanted criminal's to such an unlawful system.

In my humble opinion the family deserve compensation and the officer whom pulled that gun slowly, aimed it and shot it need's a minimum life term in jail for that cruel and cold blooded act of barbarity though that shall never justify the loss of there loved one, a guy whom looked to be rather gentle to my eye's, A son's loss of a loving father, A wife's loss of a loving husband.

Some thing's leave you speechless and feeling ill and this was one of them, everyone in the world that see's that has whitnessed a murder taking place and to call it anything else must beg the question of the other opinion's reason's.

a reply to: kosmicjack

looks #ed up, and no matter what it's always sad to see someones last breaths, even if they were attacking you, there's an element of humanity and facing ones mortality when seeing something like this, as we know, no one gets out alive. It's hard to tell when the camera pans away and just prior to, what the cops were seeing. Anyway, I don't like this kind of thing anymore than anyone else.

This is a man who had a gun. A man who pulled a gun. I was taught if you pull a gun you use it. If I was the officer and knew he had pulled a gun I would be very alert to his actions. He goes to pull said gun. He is killed. It is a tragedy for the family but if he had a real job in this less than 6% unemployed economy he would not have been there.

This is a narrative the MSM wants you to see instead of the FBI and DOJ letting HIllary off.

look at this!!!!

llink

Half way through the year and 336 deaths. Last year total was 490. Sad to say it will be beat.

THIS is what we should be calling on our candidates to address. Not police involved shootings but where these poor children come from.

a reply to: matafuchs

I agree with many of your positions brother, however I think addressing both the abuse of power that we see in our police force, and the senseless gang murders are both important, and I also see these issues as two separate issues- hence, why I say we should be able to focus on both. Obviously, wrongful executions happen in American streets of both black and white, and gang violence exists it goes without saying, neither subjects take away from the other. Anyway, in regards to this shooting I haven't made up my mind yet, there's vital parts missing that we just can't see what the officers are seeing.

a reply to: kosmicjack

Gun front right pants pocket. His right hand was going for it. Good kill.

The rioters should have their welfare benefits revoked.

a reply to: kosmicjack

Finally had a chance to see this. It's sad a man had to die but he left the LEO's with no choice. Him having a gun and resisting put their lives in danger.