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originally posted by: MrSpad
More Orlando is a false flag drivel. Pretty much for me anybody who starts calling themselves a patriot or patriot group is about the last thing from it.
Former border vigilante Chris Simcox probably won't be getting any Father's Day cards in jail, judging from the testimony of three of his daughters on Monday, during the Minuteman Project co-founder's ongoing trial on six counts of child molestation and furnishing pornography to minors. Two of the daughters who took the stand are under the age of 10. Both are his children with ex-wife Alena Simcox; one of them alleges sexual abuse. The third daughter is an adult, his child from a previous marriage, who alleges that Simcox molested her on three different occasions when she was young.
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www.phoenixnewtimes.com...
J.T. Ready...
On May 2, 2012, Ready entered his home in Gilbert, Arizona, and fatally shot his girlfriend Lisa, her daughter Amber, Amber's boyfriend, Jim Hiott, and Amber's infant daughter Lilly. He then fatally shot himself. A 9-1-1 call made from the house referred to an argument before the call was interrupted by gunfire. A teenager in the house at the time was in her bedroom and heard an argument, but survived the incident without being shot. Victims: Lisa Mederos, age 47, Ready's girlfriend. She is believed to have made the first 9-1-1 call and was found dead inside the home. Amber Mederos, 23, Lisa's daughter with Hugo Mederos. She was found dead inside the home. Lilly Mederos, 15 months, Amber's daughter. She was initially found alive inside the home, but was pronounced dead at the hospital. Jim Hiott, 24, Amber's fiancee, an Army veteran who served in Afghanistan. He was found dead outside the home near Ready's body.
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Although there is the caveat that initial reports conflict with the OS in Ready's case.
Shawna Forde...
On May 30, 2009, 29-year-old Raul Flores, Jr., and his daughter, 9-year-old Brisenia Ylianna Flores, were murdered at their home in Arivaca, Arizona, during a robbery by Shawna Forde, Jason Eugene Bush, and Albert Gaxiola. Both Raul and Brisenia were born in the United States and were thus American citizens, as is Gina Gonzalez, the victims' wife and mother, who survived the attack.
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Basically, even hard line immigration enforcement defenders had had enough. They were kicked out y their actions, not because of their stated purpose.
originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: olaru12
Then it doesn't apply to you and why should I waste effort to explain?
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Annee
Arizona kicked them out because the fact was that they were criminals, not patriots. Chomos, druggies, thieves, and murderers are what they actually were.
originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: Gryphon66
If you take violent action against our government (at any level), our institutions or our way-of-life, you're a traitor and a domestic terrorist.
I spoke only of nonviolence so your spin can just stop.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Annee
Uh...no. I lived in Sahuarita for a few years, so I know Southern Arizona quite well. The Indian trespassing is only part of the story. If their purpose was legitimate and they were stand up people they would still be there. For better or for worse, this is Az. The authorities fight the Indians on almost everything