Democratic Party takes major stand for reproductive freedom

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

So... ?

Come on, let's talk about the issue at hand, rather than trying to take away my right to choose whether or not i wink.

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

More grave? Nah.
I do agree that taxes shouldn't be mandatory, because if I don't agree with something, I shouldn't have to contribute to funding it...

Thanks for engaging. Seriously... Let's continue.

a reply to: In4ormant

Yep. We had that one pregnant girl. I felt so bad for her. Yeah, I don't go to high school now so it's hard for me to judge what things are like today. I'd wager that most kids have it pretty normal like I did.

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

Care to rephrase? I'll respond if there's clarification.

a reply to: japhrimu

What's the issue at hand? Transgenders in the bathroom? I'm ok with it. You?

a reply to: japhrimu

I do agree that taxes shouldn't be mandatory, because if I don't agree with something, I shouldn't have to contribute to funding it...

Allowing people to decide to not pay taxes would require a massive change in the way our nation functions. I am not saying a world in which people are allowed that choice is impossible... but i am at loss for how that kind of policy word work.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MystikMushroom

It isn't murder if it isn't a living, thinking, feeling human being.

Well then mass shootings are just late term abortions.

Well, thanks, at least, for finally saying what you really believe on that score.

Well done. /retch

a reply to: japhrimu

The country is not beholden to some guy on the internet who believes he is just.

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

Youre changing the subject, and I think it's a little more nuanced, but I'll play along...

Transgendereds in bathrooms... Hmm... If it's public, I don't think there should be discrimination, either way...
If it's a private business, the owners should get to decide...
If no one can tell, who's gonna stop them?

Ideally, I wouldn't want any of my female family/friends to have to share if it made them uncomfortable... But I don't see why everyone else can't use the guys'. Call it "non-female."

Hermaphrodites: their choice...

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

Well, I guess we agree on that... We're kinda talking ideals (politics), aren't we?

a reply to: Gryphon66

It's easy to "gotcha" people... He/she was trying to make a point... I THINK Neo was saying all murder is wrong...

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

Hmm... So let's NOT converse/debate?
(Or do I misunderstand? It's possible.)

a reply to: japhrimu


We can debate or converse if you like. I never said otherwise. If you have a question or a statement then by all means please share and i will respond in kind and with the same of respect you have shown in this thread.

Abortion is not an illegal act. The false equivalency of abortion with murder is nothing more than emotional and hypocritical claptrap as has been shown time and time again. Abortion is and has been seen by most people in this country as a medical procedure that is at times a critical aspect of a woman's reproductive health.

A majority of Americans support a woman's right to choose.

The argument that "I don't want my tax dollars going for abortion" is flawed in multiple ways, but most specific, is that none of us makes an individual decision about how the money that we pay in taxes that becomes government revenue is used.

It's absurd on its face. I don't want my nickel to buy another Hellfire missile that will be used to cause "collateral damage." I refuse to have my pennies go to keep people in prison for petty drug offenses. Etc. etc.

Aside from that, here's an alternative way of looking at it. Just consider that your taxes went to cover the costs of drones or bombs and that mine went for a necessary medical procedure for a woman who needed/wanted it.

Because that's just as reasonable as anything being spewed here.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Any sort of introspection of the argument makes the whole foundation of the idea crumble.

It is kinda surreal actually.

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

Thank you...

I noticed you are/have been one of the more recent major contributors on this thread, but I don't want to pick and choose from your posts... (I just told someone "gotchas" are easy... From me, too, I assume)

So, I'll reaffirm what (I think) we agree on: Ideally, TAXES should be voluntary... (Even if that's an oxy-moron)

A bit more personally substantive: Those who don't believe in/disagree with abortion shouldn't have to pay for it... And therefore shouldn't be federally subsidized...

I don't agree with abortion in most cases, because I do think it's murder, but if a woman and a doctor enter into an agreement, I am not going to stop them... I just don't want my tax dollars to go towards it...

I'll expand if you ask me to clarify, or disagree...

How is something empowerment when it needs redistribution of wealth? I'm an empowered person requiring programs ran by the government supported by taxing individuals. If you don't want to be pregnant, don't get pregnant?

a reply to: Gryphon66

So... "Deal with it?" I still think abortion is murder... I do think "hellfire missles" are murder... (Is it a war, though? Are they enemy combatants? Are babies enemy combatants?) I don't want my involuntary tax dollars going to those, either...

Two wrongs don't make a right...
(If I am over generalizing, let's get more specific... I'll need your help, though.)

a reply to: Tsukimidnightmoon

Can you rephrase this? It sounds good, maybe...? I dunno... I wanna stay in the conversation...

(No offense... Sounds poetic...)

a reply to: neutronflux

Umm... Yeah! (I think)

If abortion is so noble, wouldn't many doctors want to do the public a service, pro-bono, or close to?

(I don't even know: how much does an abortion cost on average?)