Bernie Sanders says he will vote for Hillary Clinton

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

A "vote for" is the same as an endorsement.

The academic MSM has many people fooled.

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
Bernie can't vote for Hillary if she's not on the ballot.

I feel this is a part of the unification, something to draw Clinton supporters votes to Sen Sanders when HRC has to drop out of the race.

Go Bernie!

I pray you're right.
BUT...don't forget that 'Her Pal Joey' Biden is still waiting in the wings.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

A "vote for" is the same as an endorsement.

The academic MSM has many people fooled.

Depends on what your definition of 'VOTE' is---Clinton Speak 101

Never going to achieve any change by accepting defeatism. I was not voting for him but I lost all respect for him as a person. Should have gone 3rd party to send a clear message of hope. Instead he cut and ran.

a reply to: xuenchen

And I think he will see that. He shined a light on some things that need change. I doubt we will ever see a campaign that is completely run on voter contributions. Not unless the media say they will run political ads for free. I'm betting on the superdelegates biting the dust or at least a change in their role.

a reply to: Sillyolme

it's amazing she even had time to campaign.

Campaign is ALL she has done for the last 10 years or so, and 'fund raise' ( suck at the pipe of her corporate masters).

What else has she accomplished? Other than destroying the middle east.

a reply to: xuenchen

No he didn't and they're are not fundamentally different in their views.
Fracking
College tuition
Min. Wage

Fracking creates jobs right now. Research into alternate energy supplies is also job producing. And then we won't need Fracking. Or coal.
Managing tuition costs so students graduate debt free. Free college= bottom of the barrel teachers/ professors.
Min. Wage of 12 or 15 is still worlds away from 7.50.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Sillyolme

He was mainstream.

Credibility.... lost.

Actually, that happened a long time ago.

a reply to: NewzNose

Blah blah blah. We need platitudes now ?

a reply to: butcherguy

Whose credibility?

a reply to: xuenchen

I have already said this . Absolutely would vote for Bernie if he had won.

a reply to: xuenchen

No it's not, it's only the same thing if you're an idiot. An endorsement is saying "this person's great, I agree with them and support them, and you should too." A vote might say that, but it also might say "this person is awful but the alternative is worse."

If the US had a preferential voting system and Sanders put Clinton as his #1 choice, then yes, I would agree they are essentially the same. However, I get the feeling that if the US had a preferential voting system then his vote might end up looking something like
#1 Himself
#2 Jill Stein
#3 Gary Johnson
#4 Clinton
#5 Trump

Bernie understands that a third party run is non-viable, a sure way to sweep his ideas into the dustbin of history. He understands that the ONLY chance for change comes through liberalism, which is found on the Democratic side. There are no more liberals in the Republican Party. Elizabeth Warren, another Progressive, left the GOP in the 1990's.

progressives derive their values and ideals from liberalism, if only because science suggests liberals are more likely to be open to the experimental method at the heart of progressivism. The problems progressives most often address are grounded in timeless liberal values: the social contract, positive and negative liberty, and equality of opportunity. But the progressive method is a search for solutions that offer the most help and the least harm, based on the best available evidence, and for the specific conditions being addressed.

source

Bernie understands that any Republican victory is a defeat for his ideas.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Wow Sarah Bernhart I thought you had died.

a reply to: desert

Thank you! Exactly.
There are many others who feel the way Bernie does and share his progressive ideas. Get in and vote democrat for the house and Senate. His ideas can still be heard. Besides everybody knows the house makes the laws anyway.

a reply to: interupt42

Meanwhile the republicans throw trump up and you guys decide to back a mental midget racist . Ok I see where you're coming from......
Runs away trying to stifle a laugh.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

Whose credibility?

Interestingly enough, yours and Bernies.

a reply to: xuenchen

This has been coming down the pipeline for a few weeks now... It isn't some new and exciting betrayal. Sanders knows that he lost the election but the fight isn't over. First he succeeded in pulling Hillary's campaign further to the left, and second he is setting himself up to push his positions more favorably in the mainstream underneath Hillary. It's a good political move for him and maybe even the Democratic party if he can get the support he needs to continue his good ideas.

How Bernie changed Hillary

“You can see in her rhetoric and positioning that Hillary Clinton has heard this message loud and clear,” said political strategist David Axelrod, a former adviser to President Barack Obama. “It’s reflected in her messaging and very specific policies. The challenge is to persuade the skeptical that this will be a genuine focus in the White House and not just a passing political fancy.”

That challenge is most obvious on some of Sanders’ signature issues. On the minimum wage, for instance, Clinton now emphasizes her support for the nationwide “fight for $15,” even though she supports raising the federal minimum wage to $12. On trade, Clinton has struggled to get past the impression that she flipped her position on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Some voters found it hard to swallow when she cited specific objections to the final version of the massive agreement she had once called the “gold standard” of trade deals.

But since then, as Sanders’ strident criticism of Wall Street has won him a devoted progressive following, her rhetoric toward Wall Street — home to many of her top donors — has become increasingly more heated. It’s become a more prominent component of her stump speech. And she has criticized corporations, vowing, for example, to go after price-gouging pharmaceutical companies.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yes I am proud.
I'm also very well informed.
She is absolutely the best qualified. Probably the most qualified in decades.
I'm not flinching. I don't hide. I've said it loud enough .
HILLARY 2016

a reply to: stosh64

What else has she accomplished? Other than destroying the middle east.

The answer you get will likely be very general in nature and not list any specific linked items of note.

You will probably hear something about her vast experience, her push to advance women's issues, her tenure at the State Department as well as her record in the Senate, but nothing linked nor objectively verifiable.

You know as well as I do that Hillary is all smoke and mirrors and the only things she truly looks to accomplish have nothing to do with the nation's interest if they don't also enrich the Clinton Foundation/CGI or increase her power base.