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originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: onehuman
Very sophisticated way of looking at this issue. Its a shame this view wasn't better known in the West as it might have saved a lot of lives and humiliations.
originally posted by: Lysergic
Well if Native America Indians say it, it must be the 100% truth.
North American indigenous cultures DID practice human sacrifice, but only at an infinitesimally smaller scale compared to the blood lust of the Mexica (Aztecs.) The most common form of human sacrifice was the ritualized torture of captured enemy soldiers. Many documented examples of this practice can be found throughout Canada, the United States and the Caribbean Islands.
originally posted by: Butterfinger
Are we going to start up the old notion of Native Americans being an Earth tuned magic elf culture again?
You know, we also allowed some limited Pedophilia(as muslims do), black slaves(Confederacy had more indian tribes that the union), honor killings, and even some cannibalism. Each of these things had thier own words too, just like "Winkte" (which is a contested translation use of the word BTW)
Can we legitimize these things as well just because your cigar statue notion of us is convenient?
White people... SMH
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Butterfinger
Sure I have no agenda though. I just like anthropology and the sexualities of domestic scale culture are extremely varriable.
And for those people who say Indians were barbaric warred etc. No kidding. Only really regressive liberals would think otherwise.
I didn't comment on two spirits. I commented that not only brittish colonial anthropologists (who were sent to understand the culture to learn how to manipulate them into Treatises and such) and early settlers accounts of blasphemous sexual practices. Does that mean the Mashpee or Iroquois were the same as the Navajo or Sioux nope. There may have been extremely strait tribes too.
Hell in South America the Yanamami slice there male genitalia up to look like females.
Does that make a culture that would create genocide or distribute polio blankets more civilized? Or the Spanish purposely raping as many women as possible to make conversion easier after the children are half Spanish?
I don't think so.
I think there is an etic and emic perspective and most cultures have human rights problems. Some more "civilized" then others. Some with much more than others.
originally posted by: Butterfinger
Are we going to start up the old notion of Native Americans being an Earth tuned magic elf culture again?
You know, we also allowed some limited Pedophilia(as muslims do), black slaves(Confederacy had more indian tribes that the union), honor killings, and even some cannibalism. Each of these things had thier own words too, just like "Winkte" (which is a contested translation use of the word BTW)
Can we legitimize these things as well just because your cigar statue notion of us is convenient?
White people... SMH
originally posted by: Talorc
Now, I'm being humorous here so nobody get their panties in a knot.... but do these guys look like a bunch of fairies and "two-spirits"? Do they look like they love homos and sing kumbaya?
feedyweedy.com...
No, they look like hardened warriors who don't give a f*ck about your 21st century delusions.
For America's indigenous people, late 19th century Christianity meant forced assimilation and cultural domination. Through government-sponsored boarding schools, Christian missionaries worked to convert native children, who were often referred to as "savages." Generations later, Native Americans who chose Christianity were said to have "sold out" to white people. In some circles, they're still considered traitors. "Why embrace Christianity?" is a question congregant Melody Spears hears often. "Some of my relatives are anti-church," she said. "There's just bitterness, I guess. I think it's their way of coping with what has happened in the past in our history with the church. www.mprnews.org...