Orlando 911 calls will be edited to remove references to "Islamic terrorism".

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: xuenchen

So, are we all happy now? The full transcript is released and we can all feel okay now?

Under pressure from Republican leaders, the Justice Department on Monday afternoon reversed itself and released a full, uncensored transcript of the Orlando terrorist's 911 call on the night of the massacre, calling the morning’s furor over omissions in the document “an unnecessary distraction.”

An unnecessary distraction. Indeed. I think everybody with a true agenda of transparency would be happy with this result. Now they simply have to explain what they were doing by deleting it in the first place, right?

a reply to: Jonjonj


Sure, if it's more than just protecting some details before they were ready to share. But what have we learned that we didn't know. We already knew the guy pledged support for ISIS. So.... what is the big reveal here that changes things?

a reply to: spiritualzombie

It is all about transparency. Why is that a problem for you? Not only have they admitted they arbitrarily chose to omit information, they have now admitted, or at least demonstrated, that they omit information in general, with absolutely no reason to do so.

By their acts shall they be known, right?

There is no shame in admitting when one is wrong.

I do it, every day.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Jonjonj


Sure, if it's more than just protecting some details before they were ready to share. But what have we learned that we didn't know. We already knew the guy pledged support for ISIS. So.... what is the big reveal here that changes things?

You are exactly right....we already knew this guy was a Radical Muslim extremist and that he pled support to al Baghdadi and to ISIS.....that was not the big reveal........initial non-disclosure was the BIG distraction.....they came out within hours of the redacted document with ISIS mention....so then, the sheep all got distracted......from what? Well that is the question, what is it that they did not want us to know, to focus on?

I do not have the answer, but, I sure have a lot of ideas what it could be. Just sayin'

a reply to: Jonjonj

What was I wrong about? This is so bizarre. I feel like I have been following you guys all day while you foam at the mouth, about crazy conspiracies, the shooter's wife working for Hillary, and Obama being directly responsible for aiding this guy--- and at the end of the day, we find out what we already knew???

And it was all about redacting? Are you kidding me? There is so much redaction in government-- I don't endorse it, but why was this such a bigger deal than the trillions of other pages of redacted documents sitting in warehouses?

Feels like this was a non-issue and you guys totally blew it out of proportion. If there was a crime committed fine, but wow, this was a bit bizarre reaction over nothing.

I'm just glad we're all okay now.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Why should anyone be happy ?

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels Read more at: www.azquotes.com...

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The LEFT got called out for acting like NAZI's.

Thank god for small favors, but the problem still remains.

Fort Hood.

Boston.

San Bernadino.

And Orlando.

Some people just don't want to call a spade a spade until they are FORCED to.

a reply to: neo96

What's the spade we're not calling a spade?

a reply to: neo96

I think the Democrat Administration got nervous about losing votes.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: neo96

I think the Democrat Administration got nervous about losing votes.

Apparently not so much when it comes to 'muslims'.

The only people that are put on no fly lists,and terrorist 'watch' lists.

They are of course trying to change that now.

Where we ALL get put on them.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Jonjonj

What was I wrong about? This is so bizarre. I feel like I have been following you guys all day while you foam at the mouth, about crazy conspiracies, the shooter's wife working for Hillary, and Obama being directly responsible for aiding this guy--- and at the end of the day, we find out what we already knew???

And it was all about redacting? Are you kidding me? There is so much redaction in government-- I don't endorse it, but why was this such a bigger deal than the trillions of other pages of redacted documents sitting in warehouses?

Feels like this was a non-issue and you guys totally blew it out of proportion. If there was a crime committed fine, but wow, this was a bit bizarre reaction over nothing.

I'm just glad we're all okay now.

No foam in my mouth, no crazy conspiracy either. You are angry, and it shows. I have not mentioned Hillary either, nor has anybody whose true issue has been the literal admission by the US government of "we will delete what we want and on top of that we will tell you to your face!".

We all tried to be relevant.

We didn't learn anything that new really... is all I'm saying.... and well 17 pages.... You guys got what you needed though, so I'm just happy for you.

That was a good victory. I'm happy you're happy. Truly.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

WHAT???

All day long you have been espousing the propaganda value of the claims made by this terrorist inspiring others, hence the absolute need to conceal the information.

Now you're saying it was all much ado about nothing, and everyone was all excited over something "we already knew anyway" so no biggie????

Man, that was a change-up!

Is that in the "defuse" section of the manual, right after "deflect", but right before the "shiny object" section?

It's clear our ATS outrage has forced an about-face' on the part of the DOJ.
BEHOLD the power of 75 FLAGS!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
It's clear our ATS outrage has forced an about-face' on the part of the DOJ.
BEHOLD the power of 75 FLAGS!

Behold from the Guccifer leaks.

The Left trying to control the 'narrative' until it backfired on them.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Listen, my position has been this whole time-- I see the strategy in not saying "Islamic" Terrorism. They want to separate the violent extremists from Islam. They don't want to alienate our Muslim allies or American Muslims. Makes sense.

Also, they said they were redacting the call to allegiance and propaganda from the transcript-- made sense. What I heard from you guys was "what else are they hiding..."--- I said over and over, I understand the strategy---

And now, they release the information, and it's exactly what they said-- his pledge of allegiance and it's nothing we didn't already know. So, yeah, for me, it's a non-issue.

But you guys are happy, so I'm happy. What's wrong with that?

originally posted by: Jonjonj
It is all about transparency.

So, can I ask a question of you and everyone else who needed this transparency?

Are we all on the same page that people like Assange, Manning, and Snowden did a service for this country in giving us transparency? And we all agree we want to know the truth about 9/11?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Probably like that little Taco Bell dog barking from behind the screen door at the pit bull standing in the yard

But hey, we'll take what we can get, right???

The op was a prime example of it.

Our goals and strategy.

USe specfic hits to muddy the waters around ethics,transparency.......

twitter.com...

Nothing says 'justice' like a government agency that suppose to be blind.

Be nothing more than a propaganda arm of the executive.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
We didn't learn anything that new really... is all I'm saying.... and well 17 pages.... You guys got what you needed though, so I'm just happy for you.

That was a good victory. I'm happy you're happy. Truly.

We learned that the government is more than ok with lying to its people, and we saw irrefutable evidence of that.

You have spent 17 pages denying what has been clear since page one. If anything needs to be questioned it is your defense of the indefensible.

a reply to: Jonjonj

Seriously, I think you and others are projecting a false idea of what my stance has been this whole time. I've been clear and consistent. If I'm wrong, tell me where I'm wrong. I'm totally prepared for that gotcha moment and I'll admit if I was wrong.

Pretty sure this whole time I've been saying it's a strategy, and we already know it's ISIS.