Orlando 911 calls will be edited to remove references to "Islamic terrorism".

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: neo96

You don't selectively edit 911 calls unless your trying to COVER UP something.

"What we're not going to do is further proclaim this man's pledges of allegiance to terrorist groups, and further his propaganda," Lynch said.

Why do you and others deflect or ignore this?

They want to keep his actual words private for some other reason.

Yeah, he probably thanked the administration for all the free stuff, education and food for him and his brothers in arms. Then stated he and his brothers were now strong and healthy to attack by the thousands!

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I agree we should be able to hear the full audio, unless doing so directly impacts an ongoing investigation or national security.

With that being said - these 'transcripts' could be totally fabricated. They also have not released any of the other phone calls in full, i.e. 911 calls from victims, the negotiations between OPD and Mateen. For now, we just have the DOJ's word that this is what Mateen said to a dispatcher, we don't have any real transparency yet...

originally posted by: gladtobehere

What else will be edited out, feel free to add your own.

The truth is never convenient.

It always upsets someone's personal view of how the world should be.

There's always that viewpoint that the truth would help the demons at the expense of the angels, so both the demons and the angels deserve to be misled.

This constant "delusion" has been standard religious doctrine of all the ages.

Not all true things are to be said to all men. -- The Secret Gospel of Mark.

Truth is to be treated like a precious jewel, locked away in some secure safe, taken out and revealed to only a chosen few.

Ya know NO fly lists, terrorist watch lists.

'Don't' recruit terrorists ?

Ya know that virtual GITMO.

originally posted by: SonOfThor

New release - not redacted - what is interesting is that they are still not releasing transcripts from other 911 calls, or the calls between the negotiators with OPD and Mateen...

Yup.

ISIS

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Or during negotiations Mateen name dropped the FBI informants who worked him up then he went rogue from and actually committed the act. Maybe he was asking for protection from his handler once he knew his gig was up.

(This is based on one false flag scenario, which based on the FBI's way of entrapping people to foil terror plots is a feasible scenario to me)...

Or, he could have mentioned accomplices that may still be under investigation / not apprehended. Either way, there is some sketchy stuff going on with the three most recent high profile terror attacks in this country - Boston, San Bernardino, and Orlando...

Orwell would have loved this.

a reply to: xuenchen

So a 'deranged' lunatic has enough presence of mind to call 911 make those comments.

And he's a 'lone wolf'.

ALL suicide bombers are 'lone wolfs'.

Geez.

Orlando was a TERRORIST attack of the radical ISLAMIST kind.

No matter how much lipstick they put on that pig.

It's still a pig.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
Orwell would have loved this.

He would have absolutely hated it. He wouldn't have been surprised. Are we so predictable? I mean really?

originally posted by: SonOfThor
Or during negotiations Mateen name dropped the FBI informants who worked him up then he went rogue from and actually committed the act. Maybe he was asking for protection from his handler once he knew his gig was up.

Wow, that is a really interesting theory... and VERY plausible.

A successful authoritarian/totalitarian state is one that convinces people they are free, when they are slaves.

Many authoritarian states start with noble goals. I doubt Marx would have advocated the actions of Stalin if he had been around to see what his ideas had become.

The Soviet Union maintained that it had "liberated" the working class, yet they were just cattle to serve the party oligarchy.

"America, Land of the Free".

It seems influential, powerful people in America are constantly telling you how much freedom you have, and how important it is to "guard" it but do you? It seems like just another evolution in the Propaganda machine.

The USSR had to safeguard it's "freedom" from "Counter-Revolutionaries"

I think if you have to constantly be told that you are free, then you are not.

These are very dark, very troubling times.

a reply to: Ohanka

The thing that most troubles me, and what seems to be happening, is that our representatives can not see this.

In our defense of this way of life, we are using all the tools we have historically used as the reason for our fight against the "other".

Power wants power, there can be no other conclusion.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
Orwell would have loved this.

Sadly though, Orwell was inspired to write Nineteen Eighty-four as a result of what he believed was a cloak of communism descending over Europe, particularly the UK, in 1948-9. At the time I don't believe he could have ever imagined US leaders would have been up near the front of the parade when it actually began to happen 60 years later.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Yeah, he probably thanked the administration for all the free stuff, education and food for him and his brothers in arms. Then stated he and his brothers were now strong and healthy to attack by the thousands!

These kinds of posts with stars is a reminder of who we're dealing with on ATS. And why they shouldn't be taken seriously.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Yeah, he probably thanked the administration for all the free stuff, education and food for him and his brothers in arms. Then stated he and his brothers were now strong and healthy to attack by the thousands!

These kinds of posts with stars is a reminder of who we're dealing with on ATS. And why they shouldn't be taken seriously.

That is true deflection, even if I agree with the premise.

a reply to: Jonjonj

Well yeah. I was being sarcastic.

I've been racking my brain trying to understand why this decision was initially made. Who benefited? The only thing I can remotely come up with is that it better suits the Administration's agenda to run with the Gay narrative than the radical Islamic terror narrative. And the fact that there was an effort to manipulate perception at all is appalling and scary.

Redacting it was just a subtle denial of one and a nudge toward the other. It's sick.

Facebook is being cleansed of any Islamic reference stuff too, but I am sure many people already know that.

For instance earlier today, there was a link about some Muslims attacking girls wearing bikinis in Florida near a pool, and telling them to cover themselves up, and then when someone with the girls told them to go **** themselves, the Muslims attacked with a taser.

I am working with some friends trying to find that video again. Here is one one said:

"It was an actual video footage from the victims of the Muslims attacking a family in Tampa going after them with a taser because the girls in the group were wearing bikinis and the Muslims were demanding they cover up and the locals told them to go f*** themselves. so when the Americans still up for themselves the Muslims went after them with a taser.
I saw the whole d*** thing and it was real. Fb removed it though."

This had been the original link:

m.facebook.com...

I apologize for posting here, but this thread is the closest in relation to the subject matter.

I guess I could start my own thread, but I am still a noob, and have not ever done that yet *blush*

Anyway, I hope this does not interrupt your good discussion. If anyone could find a link to that supposed video, I would be thankful, because I did not get to see it before it was deleted from Facebook.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

In case you hadn't noticed already, I'm not going to be drawn into your:

- Crusade against Trump (I lost count after about 150 threads)

- Obvious baiting and trolling on all manner of political threads (too many to count).

- Ceaseless attempts to derail discussions on topics you don't agree with using distractions, obfuscations and endless deflections.

One only needs to take a casual look at the topics you frequent to see your liberal agenda and desires, while you politely disparage and discredit those whom you don't agree with.

Have a great day!