"Spread Islam Throughout The World" The Clinton's & MVP HUMA ABEDIN (Hillary's Girl)

originally posted by: Kaiju

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Interesting. I see you appreciate the "kitchen sink" approach as well.

What does this have to do with Huma Abedin, the nominal topic of this post?

Other than giving a bigger view of the stage she is playing her role on, it doesn't.
I posted it to help you out with your uncertainty about how gun control fits in.
Did it work? Are you still unsure?

I'm not unsure at all. You're trying desperately to make political hay.

It's actually kind of embarrassing, if you want to know the truth.

One of the names contained in OP's interminable documents is Abdullah Omar Nasseef.

Scary arch-Muslim-sounding name, right?

Who is Mr. Nasseef?

Abdullah Omar Nasseef (Arabic: عبدالله عمر نصيف‎‎) (born 5 July 1939 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia) is a Saudi chemist and geologist. Nasseef has a Ph.D degree from Leeds University in the United Kingdom. He is a professor at King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, and serves as Chief Scout of the Saudi Arabian Boy Scouts Association, which he joined in 1956. He is chairman of the World Muslim Congress, chairman of the founding board of Sahm Al-Nour Trust, and Former Secretary General of Muslim World League. In 1983, Nasseef was awarded the Bronze Wolf, the only distinction of the World Organization of the Scout Movement, awarded by the World Scout Committee for exceptional services to world Scouting.

Yep. Sounds terrifying.

But wait a minute, he founded the Rabita Trust in 1988! Right? That's a (now-defunct) terrorist organization, right?

Yep.

A financial arm of the Saudi-sponsored Muslim World League, Rabita Trust is a now-defunct Pakistan-based charity whose professed purpose was to give aid to Afghani refugees in Pakistan. Its additional objectives were to disseminate Islamic culture, explain the teachings of Islam, and “defend” Islam “in a manner that safeguards the interests and aspirations of Muslims, ... refutes false allegations against Islam, and repels inimical trends and dogma which the enemies of Islam seek to exploit in order to destroy the unity of Muslims and to sow seeds of doubt in the Muslim brethren.”

Rabita Trust was established in 1988 by the late Pakistani President Zia-ul-Haq and the Muslim World League’s former Secretary-General Dr. Abdullah Omar Naseef. Rabita Trust was scrutinized by the U.S. Senate Finance Committee based on evidence that it knowingly funded terrorist groups. The organization was directed by Wael Hamza Jalaidan, an al Qaeda founder and chief of logistics, until the United States and Saudi Arabia moved to close it down with Pakistani assistance.

Because Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, a U.S. ally, was a member of Rabita Trust's Board of Directors, the U.S. initially resisted adding the group to its list of terrorist-sponsoring charities. But under U.S. pressure, Musharraf eventually resigned from the Board, at which point the United States designated Rabita Trust as a “Global Terrorist Entity” and froze its assets on October 12, 2001.

Discover The Networks - Rabita Trust


So, Dr. Nasseef was designated as a terror supporter or suspect, right? Nope, never.

Wasn't he a part of the Rabita Trust when it was designated as an al-Qaeda support group? Nope, but President Musharraf our main ally in Pakistan was.

/shrug

As far as connecting cherry-picked pieces of the Haddith goes, not to mention the "Jew hating" (which I'm assuming OP has the biggest issue with) that supposedly has some relation to Mrs. Abedin, who's she married to, again?

Oh that's right, Senator Anthony Weiner, a Jewish guy from Brooklyn, New York.

/shrug

I know Senator John McCain is out of vogue with many on the Right these days, but here's what he has had to say about these "discovered facts" ...

“These sinister accusations rest solely on a few unspecified and unsubstantiated associations of members of Huma’s family, none of which have been shown to harm or threaten the United States in any way,” McCain said. “These attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis and no merit. And they need to stop now.

Washington Post

And if you'd like to hear these facts out of McCain's own mouth ...

a reply to: paxnatus

excellent thread pax, did not know about hadith before. i always thought hadith was another prophesied dark angel from the kuran

a reply to: awareness10

PLEASE. Stop spreading that false/fake/distorted quote by George Washington. It has been DISPROVEN many times to not be ACCURATE at all. No matter how many TIMES I point it out...right-wing people don't care though.

You CANT use a distorted quote on a MEME and expect to have ANY credibility in the other words you say:

This quote is partially accurate as the beginning section is taken from Washington's First Annual Message to Congress on the State of the Union. However, the quote is then manipulated into a differing context and the remaining text is inaccurate.

Mt. Vernon dot org

*sigh* I have a feeling that the TRUTH doesn't matter, because these topics are so emotionally charged. Logic, reason and truth go OUT the window...

What about the Bush's Saudi connections?

We used to talk about that all the TIME...I guess it's not in style right now, as this is an anti-Clinton and anti-Obama hit piece...?

a reply to: Gryphon66

What you refer to as "cherrypicked" might equally well be called "logical examination" since the words exist independently of opinion.

Neither Huma Abedin or the teachings of Islam are exempt from examination.

People are, in fact, free to take their own interpretation of these words and work the truth out for themselves.

If the Koran and the Hadith contain messages of intolerance and hatred then those are the facts.

However unpleasant it may be to subject those words to "logical examination" they remain as the written message.

No matter what "ad hominem" attacks are made on people who present the "teachings of Islam" for critical examination the words don't change their meaning.

a reply to: Gryphon66

So, Dr. Nasseef was designated as a terror supporter or suspect, right? Nope, never.

Wasn't he a part of the Rabita Trust when it was designated as an al-Qaeda support group? Nope, but President Musharraf our main ally in Pakistan was.

Yep:

ABDULLAH OMAR NASEEF (D97)

...

273. Rabita Trust, a subsidiary of the Muslim World League, is connected to the SAAR Network, through two officers, Dr. Abdullah Omar Naseef and Abdullah al-Obaid. The SAAR Network was the focus of March 2002 raids led by United States authorities for the network’s ties to al Qaeda.

274. On October 12, 2001, President George W. Bush’s Executive Order designated Defendant Rabita Trust as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist Entity and the Treasury Department froze its assets. Defendant Abdullah Omar Naseef founded the Defendant Rabita Trust in July 1988 and is currently its chairman.

275. Abdullah Omar Naseef ( or “Naseef”) also served as Secretary-General of the Muslim World League during the time he created Defendant Rabita Trust and has attempted to spread Muslim World League offices around the world. Part of his global efforts are found in his involvement in a SAAR Network charity. Naseef is an officer of Makkah al-Mukarramah, Inc., registered in Virginia as a non-profit organization. A second shared executive is the Vice-Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Rabita Trust, Abdullah al-Obaid, who is also an officer at two of the SAAR Network businesses that were raided, the Muslim World League and Sanabel al-Kheer. Defendant Abdullah Omar al-Obaid is unique in that, not only is he an officer at the Muslim World League and the SAAR Network, but he is also the Deputy General Manager at one of the al-Rajhi’s largest businesses, al-Watania Poultry in Saudi Arabia. Al-Watania Poultry has branches worldwide and in the United States.

CIVIL ACTION
Case Number
1:02CV01616(JR)(direct .pdf link)

a reply to: DanteGaland

Keep on doing what? Once is not keeping on. So it was an honest mistake keep your gaunch on
Mr. Bleep.

Relax ... you'll give yourself a hernia if you keep that up.

a reply to: paxnatus

Thank you for your informative thread it is good to see some decent posters left on this site, console yourself with this thought where there are humans there are Buddha's and flies ,and your thread must be good it has attracted the biggest fly on this site.

a reply to: khnum

www.worldaffairsbrief.com...

Thank you for so much info, Hope the above,,,,also long,,, explains what is on the drawing board now for tomorrows world.

a reply to: steaming

Things are planned for decades in this speech in 2007 by General Wesley Clark he outlines the current middle east plan has been around since 1991,whats particularly poignant is the relevance of this speech to current developments.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

You've linked one phase of the civil case filed on behalf of the 9/11 Terror Attack survivors. (A case that for the most part is still pending.)

Dr. Naseef was indeed named as a Defendant in this case along with hundreds of other individuals (and several American airline companies, eventually).

Focus Question: Has Dr. Abdullah Omar Naseef been named as a person of interest in a terror investigation, placed on a terror watch list, been charged with terrorism by the US Government, et. al.?

a reply to: Gryphon66

John McCain ??? this John McCain that has met with ISIS personally ? We cold make a longer thread about that guy ...and he is your source for reason ...sad

a reply to: Gryphon66

The Rabita trust is no longer open for business for reasons that any reasonable person can understand.

"Reason for listing:

The Rabita Trust was listed on 17 October 2001 pursuant to paragraph 8(c) of resolution 1333 (2000) being associated with Al-Qaida, Usama bin Laden or the Taliban for “participating in the financing, planning, facilitating, preparing or perpetrating of acts or activities by, in conjunction with, under the name of, on behalf or in support of” or “otherwise supporting acts or activities of” Al-Qaida (QDe.004) and Usama bin Laden."

www.un.org...

So the Question might well be asked

"Why hasn't Dr. Abdullah Omar Naseef been named as a Terrorist?"

Might it be because his supporters have infiltrated the US Government at the highest level.

They might even have worked at the State Department.

a reply to: draoicht

"Maybe", "might", "could have been" ... one tends to hear those words when no facts are present.

Let's review. The Rabita Trust was declared a terrorist organization in George W. Bush's Administration (2001-2009).

Was the Bush Administration "infiltrated" as well? Where's the evidence of that?

You just provided the data yourself that establishes what happened (early 2000s) and yet, you still want to try to cast doubt on Abedin and Clinton?

The only tentative, circumstantial link between Huma Abedin and terrorism, 9/11, etc. is not and has never been accused of terrorism, even in one of the most paranoid times of our history ... the assertions of the OP are patently absurd.

originally posted by: DanteGaland
What about the Bush's Saudi connections?

We used to talk about that all the TIME...I guess it's not in style right now, as this is an anti-Clinton and anti-Obama hit piece...?

exactly, everyone knows the only corruption and Scandals that are worth talking about are those against all of our political enemies the Republicans, white people, Christians or any of the other acceptable targets of our bigotry.

a reply to: the2ofusr1

John McCain is a traitor as well? Because he did his job as a Senator and went on a discovery mission???

So basically here, anyone that doesn't agree with the narrative that Huma Abedin is the source tying the Clinton's to 9/11 et. al. is a traitor?

Incredible.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The Bush Administration did some inexplicable things after 911.

"Who benefited from their actions?" is a valid question.

"Why was Saudi Arabia protected?" is another valid question.

There are organisations openly declaring their intention to propagandise against Western Culture.

They have plenty of Money.

Asking whether Americans Politicians took some of that money in return for influence over American Policy is perfectly reasonable.