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Hillary Clinton's emails are a non-scandal: Column

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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I understand that you want Hillary for president.

She's vile, evil, corrupt.

But I don't worry so much because congress is vile, evil, corrupt, so it's not like she'll stick out.

What you'll have to do, however, is come to terms with the fact that you will be associated with someone like Hillary.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


But you're not biased or anything.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Yeah homebrew. Nice term. What does it mean? Sounds kind of Jerry rigged. But the guy who set it up is an IT expert for the state dept. Not like he built the system from parts on eBay. What a joke. The guy is a professional and a server is a program. Homebrew. Good little puppets always learn the buzz words. I just laugh and laugh every day.


All I can say is that all that laughing must have made you a little delirious. Pagliano, the IT guy has pled the fifth over and over, has gotten limited immunity, and now the FBI has this professional's fingerprints all of the server he scrubbed for the crooked queen hillary.......professional? professional? aye yi yi LOL with you!
Here are his qualifications




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:15 PM
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Why is it the repubs always insert pictures ? Words escape?


We're they ever captured to begin with. Lol



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Why is it the repubs always insert pictures ? Words escape?


We're they ever captured to begin with. Lol


Well I'm sure you've heard this before ' a picture says a thousand words'....sometimes a picture just says it all. LOL



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: thenightisours

Oh thanks Mr Comey.
Wait the FBI hasn't released any info on the case yet so that must be more Fox news conjecture again. Yeah I laugh.
Thanks for the picture.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: thenightisours

Yes like the pictures in a child's book. When they haven't learned the words yet.

PS
The quote is "A picture is worth a thousand words"
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: thenightisours

Yes like the pictures in a child's book. When they haven't learned the words yet.

PS
The quote is "A picture is worth a thousand words"


Thanks for that......that is why people go to museums and galleries to look and observe pictures......they say a lot, and yes you are correct.....'a thousand words'.....touche'



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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One day, maybe soon, the Hillary supporters will learn that more than Republicans dislike Hillary.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
One day, maybe soon, the Hillary supporters will learn that more than Republicans dislike Hillary.


I agree, i really don't think Big Bubba likes her. Just sayin'



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Yeah homebrew. Nice term. What does it mean? Sounds kind of Jerry rigged. But the guy who set it up is an IT expert for the state dept. Not like he built the system from parts on eBay. What a joke. The guy is a professional and a server is a program. Homebrew. Good little puppets always learn the buzz words. I just laugh and laugh every day.


This garbage again?

Bryan Pagliano was a vanilla sysadmin with no cyber security credentials whatsoever.

From his resume: (direct .pdf link)


TECHNICAL CERTIFICATIONS
MCSE NT and 2000 Certified, CCNA Certified, A+ Certified, CCA Certified


Absolutely none of those are cyber-security certifications, you understand that? None. He does not even have a basic entry level cyber-security certification. We would be looking for these:


#1 CompTIA SECURITY+

#2 CRISC

#3 CISM

#4 CISSP

#5 OSCE

#6 LPT

#7 CREST ACE/ICE

#8 GIAC Security Essentials

#9 CEH

#10 OSCP


Top Cyber Security Certifications 2015

The server was not, I repeat, not secure. One more time, just in case you misunderstood me. The. server. was. not. secure.


Clinton’s server, which handled her personal and State Department correspondence, appeared to allow users to connect openly over the Internet to control it remotely, according to detailed records compiled in 2012. Experts said the Microsoft remote desktop service wasn’t intended for such use without additional protective measures, and was the subject of U.S. government and industry warnings at the time over attacks from even low-skilled intruders.


pbs.org

From the time at which the server would have been active:


The same debate occurred later in my career when I was tasked with helping the newly-created Windows systems administrators group secure their brand-new Windows domain environment. I had a similar conversation about Microsoft Terminal Services, which uses the RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol). At the time, in the default configuration, an attacker could perform MiTM attacks to obtain the username and password, in addition to logging the keystrokes sent to the systems being managed. Again, technically there was an easy fix (change some settings on the servers, and use a compatible client on the management systems). However, the real challenge was persuading the administrators to make the switch, as they had always just used the default configuration and, by their own account, "nothing bad ever happened." In this case, I had to use a demo and perform an attack, with permission, of course, against an administrator. Once they saw it, the progression to a properly-configured and more secure RDP implementation was underway immediately.


The Trouble with Remote Access

You have to be willfully blind in order to not understand what it means to have had a computer connected to the internet with remote desktop software enabled.

Anyone could have logged on (after having stolen username and password information through a man-in-the-middle attack, go ask your "geek friends" if you don't know what this is) and been able to copy anything on the machine and you would never even know it had happened because the credentials used could have belonged to an authorized user of the system. But the NSA and probably the FBI know who's been in there along with Guccifer.

I know I will never convince you, even after the reams of objective and verifiable facts laid out before you, you will never admit the truth. The reason I do this is that there are people who read these threads and never comment but they do learn. They see you posting very few links backing up your assertions.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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Hillary Clinton's emails are a non-scandal


That's what I've been saying this entire time.

We have cases to look at from previous incidents and we find that it is rare for things like this to lead to an indictment. In those cases that did, there were very specific conditions present that do not appear to be present in the case of Hillary.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Yeah homebrew. Nice term. What does it mean? Sounds kind of Jerry rigged. But the guy who set it up is an IT expert for the state dept. Not like he built the system from parts on eBay. What a joke. The guy is a professional and a server is a program. Homebrew. Good little puppets always learn the buzz words. I just laugh and laugh every day.


Did you seriously just say something like "a server is a program" and then laugh at "puppets using buzzwords"? What a joke.

As an ACTUAL IT PROFESSIONAL, you are doing little more than mocking the intelligence and skill of those of us who do these things for a living. It is clear in every post related to this issue that you have no idea what you are talking about and are simply buying the Clinton campaign propaganda hook, line, sinker. He was NOT certified to be doing the job he was doing, just as I would not have the credentials even though I have been developing software for over a decade. There is one guy at my previous company out of over a hundred of us that was maybe qualified for what this server needed despite about a dozen of them being part of our IT "security team".

Your argument is not intelligent or clever or even correct. And good on people like j&c who have the patience to rip your pathetic arguments to shreds for any lurkers wanting legitimate information to see.

Good day.
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: atomish



Your argument is not intelligent or clever or even correct


You have to at least laugh at the irony in that you questioned someone's intelligence and cleverness, yet you used a logical fallacy in doing so.

Argument from authority.




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

Hillary Clinton's emails are a non-scandal


That's what I've been saying this entire time.

We have cases to look at from previous incidents and we find that it is rare for things like this to lead to an indictment. In those cases that did, there were very specific conditions present that do not appear to be present in the case of Hillary.


The indictments will come from voters.

Hillary is on public trial for her very political life.

The proven lies will do the trick.




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: atomish



Your argument is not intelligent or clever or even correct


You have to at least laugh at the irony in that you questioned someone's intelligence and cleverness, yet you used a logical fallacy in doing so.

Argument from authority.



I suppose.

But then again, that is the poster I responded to's entire shtick so I don't really feel bad about it in this case.

ETA: haven't seen you posting around in a bit it seems, maybe you were just avoiding political threads? Hope all is well! Missed your ugly mug a little bit.

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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: introvert

Hillary Clinton's emails are a non-scandal


That's what I've been saying this entire time.

We have cases to look at from previous incidents and we find that it is rare for things like this to lead to an indictment. In those cases that did, there were very specific conditions present that do not appear to be present in the case of Hillary.


The indictments will come from voters.

Hillary is on public trial for her very political life.

The proven lies will do the trick.




Unfortunately, the "guilty" verdict comes with a president Trump it seems.

Otherwise, Hillary wouldn't be much of an issue. It's too bad we couldn't field a good candidate in the other major party to go up against her.

ETA: well, PROBABLY NOT much of an issue IN MY OPINION lol. She really was the chosen one from the beginning, it just boggles the mind how she's running away with it, it seems.
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: thenightisours

They go to art museums to see Art.

Not what we're talking about.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

And some pretty high up republicans do like her.
Pendulum swings both ways dude.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Not garbage.
God give me strength.
Soon. Very soon.



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