Republican Congressman from S. Carolina rips into DHS official over no-fly no-buy list.

a reply to: gladtobehere

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None of these agencies have Constitutional authority to exist.
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Kind of sums up where the American body politic has degenera-
ted to, doesn't it?
"What need we swords for conquest: when with mere words
our slaves demand their chains?" Quote me, and damn us all

originally posted by: projectvxn
There was a democrats on MSNBC talking about how "due process is killing us" and how the whole concept was getting in the way of what they wanted to do.

This morning I got into a debate with an anti gunner who told me the same thing. That the presumption of innocence is a problem.

I told her she was advocating open dictatorship and her only reply was some BS about the NRA.

Times are going to get rough.

Only if times get emotional instead of logical. The only reason behind
due process being wrong is because the real legal process for radicals
is to destroy the rule of law in favor of righteousness. Theirs.
Ain't totalitarianism cool?

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
Um I wouldn't trust any politician from SC I lived there for nearly 4 years and its politics is more corrupt than a 3rd world country according to political over sight watchdogs.

Example a couple of politicians got pulled over for DUI's and they passed a law demanding police drive with their blue lights on top lit as a state law but not flashing or any siren saying it was entrapment to not be obvious.

But hey before they were getting pulled it wasn't entrapment? One even had the nerve to pull the dont you know who I am card...

I dont know what kinda nonsense has happened since I left but horrid state politics from people trying to be above the law and the rest of the citizens just peons.

They ARE better than us just by example. In actual practice,
just try outliving one of them. I did, and it's still public knowledge
that they're better than us: from pure credibility due to degrees
of formal 'indoctrination'. Refuse and be pronounced insane.
Insanity has been codified lately as politically confrontational.

Hey it works for me-- better to be called insane by lunatics than
be ignored by sheep. Sir Winston, I hoped you'd like that parry.

a reply to: gladtobehere

originally posted by: projectvxn
There was a democrats on MSNBC talking about how "due process is killing us" and how the whole concept was getting in the way of what they wanted to do.

This morning I got into a debate with an anti gunner who told me the same thing. That the presumption of innocence is a problem.

I told her she was advocating open dictatorship and her only reply was some BS about the NRA.

Times are going to get rough.

Oh, so now that 'due process' is being used for what is it truly intended, it is killing us?

The 'due process' clause from the 14th Amendment has been twisted and contorted to say that illegal aliens have rights to American-funded education, that non-citizen terrorists captured on the battlefield should be prosecuted as domestic criminals, that women have a federally protected right to contraception and abortion (federal, not personal), federal right to privacy (tell that to the NSA), federal right to marriage contract with anyone regardless of state sovereignty over domestic affairs not listed in the enumerated powers, etc etc.

I'm not saying that due process doesn't have its place in law. More often than not due process is applied correctly.

But some of the most egregious progressive wet dream achievements in recent history have been achieved by judicial activist use of 'penumbras' and 'emanations' that are hidden in the 14th Amendment.

"[W]e must never fail to ask ourselves not only what the law is, but what the law should be." - Justice Anthony Kennedy

Ah.

Mr. Gowdy is desperately trying to shed the stink of his participation in the Benghazi Investigation Scandal.

Still, even a besmirched man is right when he's right.

Every practice of the government should be brought in line with the Constitution of the United States. This includes due process and equality before the laws.

Does anybody else really want to see that pretty woman's face bashed in with a blunt object? Is it just me?

I love the way Trey Gowdy gets on a person's neck. No doubt. I love to see someone shamed.

But ...

Why does he not proffer charges of Sedition in such instances of abuse? He is a member of Congress after all. He has the right. If he did it once or twice ... would the practice not cease?

No one I know of in Congress has our backs. Not ... even ... for ... one ... second.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

It's also found in the 4th amendment and it is the corner stone of American jurisprudence.

It does "have its place". In the sense that without it we will be living in an open dictatorship.

originally posted by: projectvxn
There was a democrats on MSNBC talking about how "due process is killing us" and how the whole concept was getting in the way of what they wanted to do.

This morning I got into a debate with an anti gunner who told me the same thing. That the presumption of innocence is a problem.

I told her she was advocating open dictatorship and her only reply was some BS about the NRA.

Times are going to get rough.

All I can say is "Dang!" Complaining about Due Process and saying the presumption of innocence is a problem?

Wow, just.............wow.

Is it my imagination or are these "Democrats", Progressive's and Leftists getting a bit "authoritarian"?

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Teikiatsu

It's also found in the 4th amendment and it is the corner stone of American jurisprudence.

It does "have its place". In the sense that without it we will be living in an open dictatorship.

5th actually. But it is the 14th and its mentioning of the States that has stretched Due Process to its breaking point.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

I stand corrected. I conflated probable cause with due process.

Just a random question that is tangentially related: Who has gone or considered going shopping this weekend?

Myself, I looked a Colt New Agent 9mm but didn't want to spend $860 until I did more research. But I did do some shopping for other things so the hole in my pocket is sated for now.

a reply to: Ahabstar

I just finished building a 7.62x39 AR for my wife.

I'm all gunned out for a while.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
Just a random question that is tangentially related: Who has gone or considered going shopping this weekend?

Myself, I looked a Colt New Agent 9mm but didn't want to spend $860 until I did more research. But I did do some shopping for other things so the hole in my pocket is sated for now.

I just got back from the range and one of my pals had a New Agent in .45 with him. That's a nice little piece. He told me he got his for the bargain price of $900 even. I could, but I just can't, spend that much moola on a pistola.

As to shopping ... I tried to order ten stripped AR-10 lowers yesterday ... but, could only get eight. On top of that, they wouldn't give me my normal discount and I would up paying an extra $35 per. If 0bama gets a ban through, I'm gonna make big money.

a reply to: gladtobehere

The thing is, people in this country blindly trust our government. Even funnier yet, we ALL agree the system is broken, and that the government is corrupt, but whenever someone wants to enforce something they do not like, they run to daddy government.

In what sane world do we believe that it is okay to arbitrarily allow someone to be put on a no fly list at the whim of a government "official"? At what point do we start questioning the system that is screwing up the entire planet?

All of the government surveillance, all of the over reach into our privacy, getting patted down before taking a vacation, and they still have not done ANYTHING to make us safer. The FBI has to manufacture terrorists in order to stay relevant and funded. Politicians scream terrorism every time they want to screw over the American people.

MORE LAWS, MORE GOVERNMENT, and LESS RIGHTS do NOT make us safer.

Stop buying into this nonsense and think for yourselves. Look at the damn data. Look at what they do EVERY day to the American public. Do you really want them in charge of our inherent rights?

a reply to: TorqueyThePig

Couldnt watch the video... same as a lot of blind people without being blind myself, so text from the video would have been nice... all I could do was read the OP's editorial on what their opinion was about.

But I'm pretty familiar with S.C. politics having been a citizen so that's what I spoke of.

If you or anyone else would be so kind not necessarily for myself, but as said those not sighted so a screen reader could dictate that would be thoughtful.

If not? I cannot speak an opinion about an opinion of an opinion... without it being wholly an ignorant one, and neither can many others that would comment if the Author or someone else were so kind to provide a transcript eh?

If not then it stands as simply what I do know, and exactly what I gave.

Keep in mind that south carolina "republicans" are the ones who gave obama the switch vote to push obama-care 49-51.

south carolina where also the shnooks who took down their southern flag and let york get away with blaming dylan roof on it.

Despite the fact that roof said in his OWN MANIFESTO that it was the trayvon martin debacle that made him a racist.

...but dont trust his own words,
how could it possibly be a liberals fault.

He's very well said. In the end it was not about putting the ones on the list that rightfully need to be there. Many of the ones who needed to be on it were the useful idiots that can be used for what ever was needed. Needless to say some of it was about picking on people who have account pages and sites online that go against the current administration.

Very smooth of him to trap her in her own words.

It's very sad that there are so many in America that support these ideals.

I think they do not understand the sacrifices our ancestors made on their behalf for them to practice this willful ignorance and arrogance toward anything that differs in practice or opinion.