Oh, The Orlando Killer Didn't Use An AR-15 Rifle

The latest leftist authoritarian buzzword seems to be "weapons of war".

It is funny how all the big media aer joining Obama in using this term suddenlly, from NYT to Conan O'Brien

They are all on the same talking point memo mailing list, apparently.

a reply to: xuenchen

The goal at this point is to make all guns look scary, and bad. I have seen otherwise sensible people claim that no gun with ANY magazine should be allowed for private ownership. At the rate they are going, we'll be limited to flintlocks in no time.

Has there been any shooting in recent years where the gun types didn't change? Seems to be the standard!!

Here, perhaps too many people pointed out that an AR-15 is a single shot weapon, so they had to change it, to make it all scarier.

a reply to: xuenchen

The fact that they're more concerned with what brand of killing machine is being described than the hundred LGBT people murdered and maimed says everything.

Who the f cares if it was an AR-15?
Oh right, the gun nuts fapping over their precious phallic compensating toy of choice do, because y'know, what really matters is grown men needing a gun to feel masculine feeling terrified that some law might be passed making it a criminal offense to sell one to someone who is just about to go and murder a hundred people.

Again the "responsible gun owners" are so "responsible" in their utterly deranged desperation to stop any and all sensible measures.

I think the "AR-15" frenzy is because it is an American company that could be sued.

The "AK-47" company, for example, is foreign.

Harder to sue.

This is a long term legal operation.

what use is there for a car that can go three times the legal speed limit? why do they allow us to buy such powerful vehicles when we only need a fraction of that power?



a reply to: RAY1990

Yes, weapons of war

Somewhat similar to the weapons we supply to rebels when they fight against a tyrannical government

Hmm

Funny how that works out

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: xuenchen
Thats where Congress and the MSM (and the left) show their blatant extreme stupidity on firearms. AR-15 ? Which of the 30+ AR-15s were they speaking about anywhooo
AR = Assault Rifle - general term
15 - class of above

The AR in AR15 NEVER SHOULD FOR Assault Rifle.

AR should FOR ARMALITE RIFLE from the company that invented it.
An Armalite rifle is one of a series of rifles made by the ArmaLite company, or more generally a rifle based on one of their designs, such as the M16 rifle. Eugene Stoner, Jacques Michault, Melvin Johnson, Robert Fremont and Jim Sullivan are some of the designers credited with their development.[1] In the United States, these rifles are generally known by their model numbers. The AR before the model number stands for "ArmaLite Rifle".[2]
en.wikipedia.org...

It was first sold as a light weight hunting/survial rifle before COLT bought the rights to it and made it into the full auto M16.

irrelevant

it was a high velocity round, which is devastating and not a "civilian" round

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
irrelevant

it was a high velocity round, which is devastating and not a "civilian" round

What's a "civilian round"? A .22 long rifle can kill you. Is that a "civilian round"?

EDIT: Nope not even a .22 long rifle is a "civilian round".

All I've heard anybody actually involved in the incident call it is "an AR type rifle." Only heard the media say otherwise, so if the public is confused they should probably listen to people actually involved and not shepherd smith.

a reply to: RAY1990

if the murdered had locked the doors, and used alcohol to set the place on fire with people inside would you be calling for a ban on alcohol?

It could've been a Trapdoor Springfield, in 45.70 and it would've been an AR-15. (Assault Rifle). .. You're dealing with "educated" individuals, not smart folk. It's not "Rocket Science". Their ignorance doesn't exactly need, experimentation. Give a monkey a banana... What do you think it'd do with it? These people let no tragedy go unused. .. It's agenda driven. Not logic. Much like modern science.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Konduit
B-b-but it's the guns fault so we have ban all guns! Create more safe spaces! More government dependency! I can't be trusted to defend myself!

only you right-wingers use the phrase "ban all guns"....so ridiculous, that it's just funny

I agree, its like trying to take candy from a baby and give them a lollipop instead and the baby going psychotic.

No one wants to '' take all the guns '' that's just stupidity and an emotional response.

There is nothing wrong with adapting and updating the law, changing it to suit the times.

Dear god how horrible for mankind to evolve eh? /s

a reply to: network dude

What sort of ammunition do you suppose that Omar was using?

this?


or this?

a reply to: Bybyots

He had a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39)
Do you have any confirmed info on the ammunition he was using? Maybe he was using all three, like it matters

On the issue of .22 long rifle lethality, maybe this will be an informative read: en.wikipedia.org...


Video of this gun being used that day: www.youtube.com...

And this: www.ruger1022.com...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: RAY1990

if the murdered had locked the doors, and used alcohol to set the place on fire with people inside would you be calling for a ban on alcohol?

Who is calling for a ban?

Alcohol has multiple uses. I would however question a public use of napalm if someone locked the doors and used that as a weapon.

He didn't need to lock the doors... This tool helped in that regard: youtu.be...

www.imdb.com...

a reply to: RAY1990

To potentially oppose others who may have them.

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: network dude

What sort of ammunition do you suppose that Omar was using?

this?

or this?

The second one. Although the AR platform can be used with a conversion to .22lr, he likely used the .223 round.

Problem is, people hear AR-15 and think Assault Rifle.

It isn't. That's not what the AR stands for. It stands for Armalite Rifle (the manufacturer).

Sig MCX is still black and look scary

True, but like the AR-15, it isn't an "assault rifle", as it doesn't have the ability to change fire modes. It doesn't have an automatic or burst setting, it's semi-automatic...meaning as fast as you pull the trigger.

Either this guy carried 12 or more clips for the Sig, and was a very fast shooter, or he had assistance. (likely one with a more automatic gun that could fire the same ammo).

I'd be willing to bet the ballistics would come back with that too, but we'd never see it.