Orlando Nightclub Massacre

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Shamrock6

so someone calling 911 and declaring allegiance to ISIS has nothing to do with a connection to ISIS?

am i reading that right?

If you're having a mental break and you're gonna go, go big, am I right?

Odd how with both this and San Bern they all of a sudden declared allegiancce to the convenient enemy of the day.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: ketsuko
I don't want anyone to think I pulled the trigger because this is Ali

Isn't that playing right into PC, though? If you're playing along, you can hardly criticize the game.

I don't care WHO it is, if I'm suspicious about someone's activities, I'm going to report it. I'm not afraid of what other people think.

You were the one who said failure to call it Islamic terrorism is just political correctness. This would be one example of why this creates a problem. I'm glad you can recognize that much though.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Shamrock6

so someone calling 911 and declaring allegiance to ISIS has nothing to do with a connection to ISIS?

am i reading that right?

Psssst. 'Ix-nay on the religious otivation-may'

Folks, the problem is other people knew. Like the mom in San Bernadino. The mom in Boston. People knew and did nothing. That is the worry that you should have in this country. It is not playing out as it should because we are told to not say anything.

The Imams....
The relatives...
The friends....

NO ONE SAID ANYTHING and guess what...they are ALL Muslim. So, tell me how guns caused this? There are more guns in the US than citizens.

when that white supremacist massacred a bunch of women and children at a church last december, was that a terror attack or just a 'lone gunman filled with hate'?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

This is not a MASS SHOOTING. It is a TERROR ATTACK. It would be like calling 9/11 an airline crash. You are all so brainwashed....

It was ISLAM. That is what pushed this man to do these things. It is an ideology. A way to live.

He called 911 prior to the shooting and pledged allegiance to ISIS.

Stop defending killers. It was a religion that killed those people and others.

and read this....

www.allenbwest.com...

Instead of condemning a radical part of his own religion he blamed guns. JUST like San Bernadino...they know...they choose not to say anything because by proxy they can still say they were following their religion but their hands hold no blood....

Thats bull#. Mass shooting or terrorism its the same! Murder is murder!

And no its not like comparing 911 to a aircraft crash as a aircraft crash is a accident not delibratly caused by a person!

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Shamrock6

so someone calling 911 and declaring allegiance to ISIS has nothing to do with a connection to ISIS?

am i reading that right?

Evidently not so I'll break it down for you further:

Somebody calling 911 and saying IS is great I love them isn't a connection to IS.

Somebody who is in communication with, receiving support from, or both is connected to IS.

Being a fanboy doesn't make one connected to something.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

odd how they share the same ethinicty(nationality not sure which) and religion.

whats the deal what am I missing?

point it out for me and ill get a better perspective on this thanks in advance

is this cultural programming happening on a deeply subversive basis

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Nope. Don't try to back peddle. You trivialized it. This is not a mass shooting. It is a terror attack. A mass shooting is Lanza. This was a coordinated effort by a known terror organization that killed over 50 and wounded over 50 more.

Is an attack on a base in Afghanistan described as a mass shooting? No, it is a warzone which is what ISIS is bringing to the doorstep of the US. War.

What will you say when 6 simultaneous strikes hit local Wal-Marts across the rural US? What happens when a local sports event is attacked? Is it still a mass shooting?

This is, officially, the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. That's simply a fact. What caused it is subtext. Not that we know that yet.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Being a fanboy doesn't make one connected to something.

Hmmm

I'm not sure i totally agree with that. The belief in a similar cause is what connects them.

Also where did he get support from?

a reply to: onequestion

Possibly, but if so, it's one that's working quite well in both directions.

a reply to: game over man

Look at how they work. Then get back to me.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Liquesence

I think that's overkill. When talking about this kind of terrorism, it's more or less a hate crime against all of us who do not buy into that ideology. Yes, he went to a gay bar to make his attack, but if it wasn't them, it would have been somewhere else sooner or later.

According to the definition, it was a hate crime because it specifically targeted gays (wait for it) for being gay.

It was also an act of terrorism; therefore, terror.

Terrorism AND a hate crime.

You're agreeing that it's both but just wanting to argue nuance, in typical fashion.

Smh.Carry on.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
when that white supremacist massacred a bunch of women and children at a church last december, was that a terror attack or just a 'lone gunman filled with hate'?

is there a christian terror network bombing and shooting people across the globe?

just curious

a reply to: Shamrock6

Makes ya wonder how some people can even live with all these warring, disjointed thoughts in their heads.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Shamrock6

Being a fanboy doesn't make one connected to something.

The belief in a similar cause is what connects them.

Also where did he get support from?

Possibly here?

Imam Speaking in Orlando Said Gays Must Be Killed Out of 'Compassion'

pjmedia.com...

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Shamrock6

so someone calling 911 and declaring allegiance to ISIS has nothing to do with a connection to ISIS?

am i reading that right?

Evidently not so I'll break it down for you further:

Somebody calling 911 and saying IS is great I love them isn't a connection to IS.

Somebody who is in communication with, receiving support from, or both is connected to IS.

Being a fanboy doesn't make one connected to something.

a reply to: onequestion

Who said he had support to begin with? Not me. Don't know that anybody has said he did.

I think it's a shame that Firefly was cancelled. So does Joss Whedon. And yet we have no connection whatsoever. Having "connections" doesn't mean you think the same thing somebody else does. It means being able to get something from somebody else.

Why is ISIS trying to lure us into vaporising their caliphate?