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A bank clerk was sacked for saying black people ‘should go back to Africa’ and making references to slavery during a rant. Christine Mcmullen Lindgren, 57, worked at an Atlanta branch of Bank of America before her apparent unprompted public outburst on social network on the evening of 2 June.
Wow, sure is a big rent in anyone's language. The woman had a "brain outage" of some sort to make her snap in that way.Deep down she obviously has personal problems that triggered her outburst.www.independent.co.uk... to-africa-a7064336.html
"F****** n***** go back to Africa. Get over your pity party. "Do something with your lives and your children's lives." It is unclear who specifically the tirade was aimed at, and shortly after the post was deleted, before Ms Lindgren's entire Facebook account went offline.
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
She has every right to have racist beliefs. It's no different than believing everyone else is an evil sinner who is going to hell because they don't worship your particular god - which IS protected by employment law.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
She has every right to have racist beliefs. It's no different than believing everyone else is an evil sinner who is going to hell because they don't worship your particular god - which IS protected by employment law.
She has every right to what ever beliefs she wants but her employer still has every right to fire her.
Even religious protections aren't absolute and if your religious beliefs interfered with your job (say calling customers sinners) then they have every right to fire you for that.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: DAVID64
Her employer had every right to fire her. Because of her association with them, it makes them look like they might agree with her. There might even be some angry black people showing up where she works to cause big headaches for the bank. If she said it privately in her home, that would be one thing, but putting out for public consumption is a whole other issue.
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
She has every right to have racist beliefs. It's no different than believing everyone else is an evil sinner who is going to hell because they don't worship your particular god - which IS protected by employment law.
She has every right to what ever beliefs she wants but her employer still has every right to fire her.
Even religious protections aren't absolute and if your religious beliefs interfered with your job (say calling customers sinners) then they have every right to fire you for that.
I understand what you're saying, but DID her beliefs interfere with her job? Did bank customers see her rant? Just because she felt the way she did, didn't mean she was going to work and being an ***hole to black customers. As long a she was doing her job in a professional manner and keeping her beliefs at home, I don't see a problem.
Everyone should have the freedom to express their honest thoughts. Nobody should have to fear being honest with their friends and family on Facebook or whatever social network they use.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
She has every right to have racist beliefs. It's no different than believing everyone else is an evil sinner who is going to hell because they don't worship your particular god - which IS protected by employment law.
She has every right to what ever beliefs she wants but her employer still has every right to fire her.
Even religious protections aren't absolute and if your religious beliefs interfered with your job (say calling customers sinners) then they have every right to fire you for that.
I understand what you're saying, but DID her beliefs interfere with her job? Did bank customers see her rant? Just because she felt the way she did, didn't mean she was going to work and being an ***hole to black customers. As long a she was doing her job in a professional manner and keeping her beliefs at home, I don't see a problem.
Everyone should have the freedom to express their honest thoughts. Nobody should have to fear being honest with their friends and family on Facebook or whatever social network they use.
It wasn't a message to family or friends or it wouldn't be an issue. It is the equivalent of handing out racist pamphlets..
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: DAVID64
What you say and what you do, outside of work, is absolutely none of your employers business.
I've always found it funny that the US is made out to be like the pinnacle of freedom, and yet people can be fired because of what they believe or say in their personal lives. That's not freedom. We aren't free.
Freedom for your employer to think your an (insert t&c violation here) and not want to employ you.
Being a racist is rightly not protected under employment law.
She has every right to have racist beliefs. It's no different than believing everyone else is an evil sinner who is going to hell because they don't worship your particular god - which IS protected by employment law.
She has every right to what ever beliefs she wants but her employer still has every right to fire her.
Even religious protections aren't absolute and if your religious beliefs interfered with your job (say calling customers sinners) then they have every right to fire you for that.
I understand what you're saying, but DID her beliefs interfere with her job? Did bank customers see her rant? Just because she felt the way she did, didn't mean she was going to work and being an ***hole to black customers. As long a she was doing her job in a professional manner and keeping her beliefs at home, I don't see a problem.
Everyone should have the freedom to express their honest thoughts. Nobody should have to fear being honest with their friends and family on Facebook or whatever social network they use.
It wasn't a message to family or friends or it wouldn't be an issue. It is the equivalent of handing out racist pamphlets..
So if she was handing out pamphlets telling people to give to the poor, would you still say the bank should be allowed to fire her for it?