Violence Erupts outside Trump rally, a female Trump supporter assaulted

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Indigo5


If Trumps words are in your opinion responsible for violent, law breaking, rioters, then when can we expect to see Obama arrested?

Not interested in discussions where you fictionalize what I have said whilst ignoring the rest.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LordDraconia

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TechniXcality


There's more, this is just disgusting, and yes I do blame the liberals, as they are the ones who are attacking

13% of the US is African American
17% Is of Hispanic Origin

I think when a presidential nominee says racist and bigoted things about 30% of the US population it's no longer a "Liberal" thing...Hell, up until a decade ago Conservatives used to have the Latino vote locked up.

You can keep calling it a "Liberal" phenomena if it makes you feel better, but I am pretty sure that the folks we seeing engaging in violence could care less about politics until Trump came on the scene calling them rapists and murderers.

I know that racists on the left confuse Hispanics, many of which have been here for hundreds of years with Illegal immigrants but that's just not true.

WTF? Really...By "Racists on the left" you Mean Donald Trump???

Trump just this week derided the federal judge in his lawsuit case as a "Mexican" and told the WSJ that the judge should recuse himself because he has a conflict of interest "since I am building a wall"?????

Of course that judge was born in Indiana, but just happens to have a Latino name.

Oh you mean the guy that gives scholarships to illegal immigrants and supports La Raza a Mexican Supremacist Hate Group? How come KKK is bad but La Raza is good?
gotnews.com...
If you don't think this guy should recuse himself I don't think you know what a conflict of interest means.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Indigo5


If Trumps words are in your opinion responsible for violent, law breaking, rioters, then when can we expect to see Obama arrested?

Not interested in discussions where you fictionalize what I have said whilst ignoring the rest.

Ya ignore and deflect. More logical fallacies. All the left has left is calls to emotion and not a drop of logic.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Indigo5


If Trumps words are in your opinion responsible for violent, law breaking, rioters, then when can we expect to see Obama arrested?

Not interested in discussions where you fictionalize what I have said whilst ignoring the rest.

Of course you wouldn't! I am using the same logic you are using against Trump and you don't like it!

There is nothing fictional I said about Obama's rhetoric against LEO's!

Suck it up! No safe space for you here. The illogical logic used the Progressives is in it's death throws! People have had enough, and it is obvious by how many people support Trump!

Keep up the great work though! The more hate and nonsense that comes from your camp, the more votes are pushed towards Trump!

Name ONE event that has been stopped like this by ANY other candidates supporters. I am tired of this it is Trump garbage. It has nothing to do with it. It is an excuse to abuse people they do not like. The weak and the white. How come none of these guys came to Rolling Thunder with all the bikers?

They are also doing this in a non gun friendly state.

These violent insane bottom feeding lunatics are brutally attacking people from behind, and burning American flags.

The people committing these acts are criminals, plain and simple. Something has to be done about them. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: Indigo5

Indigo, I will ask again because i ask all of the time.

Name 3 racist things Trump has said?

You cannot do it. Saying you want to stop illegal immigration is not racist, It is smart.
Saying you want to implement better measures to prevent terror attack on US soil is not racist, it is smart.

Those are the 2 talking points that are used. Neither fit. At this point, give me a tape that says "I could have beat that 'n-word' in 08" and I will fully agree but if not please shut you pie hole on the racist garbage.

originally posted by: LordDraconia
Ya ignore and deflect. More logical fallacies. All the left has left is calls to emotion and not a drop of logic.

This kind of thing is why it's hopeless. When Trump supporters can't even acknowledge the GD things he's said that have been aggressive and encouraging violence, and they can't acknowledge what's wrong with a person running for president campaigning for war crimes and appealing to the most hateful groups in America-- it's just hopeless to try solving it with words. Or logic. Or reason. Or science. Or facts. Or truth. None of these things have any meaning for Trump supporters.

"Build the wall... Deport all the illegals... No path to citizenship. Ban the Muslims. Torture all the detainees - who cares if we get no intel- they deserve it. Murder their families. Silence the critical media--- JEEZ, guys, why all the violent protests???"

I saw this go down in San Diego as well... Thankfully our police dealt with all the trash appropriately. My big question to all these protesters is if you are fighting for "America" then why would you think waiving a Mexican flag will benefit your cause?

Regardless if Trump is racist towards Mexicans or not... Our border security does need to be updated (a wall being one of the options). All people should have to come here legally. The strain that the illegal population places on our economy and political climate in California is ridiculous, and I (a legal resident that pays taxes) have to pay for it.

If all these protesters waiving Mexican flags want America to be like Mexico then please go back to Mexico. Absolutely nobody is going to stop you... unless they don't want you in their country either because your a piece of sh*t.

originally posted by: Indigo5

... I am pretty sure that the folks we seeing engaging in violence could care less about politics until Trump came on the scene calling them rapists and murderers.

Again, here's where the misinformation kicks in. He was clearly talking about illegal immigrants and he was making a point backed by facts and statistics. He's also not the first person to say this and it's been a problem for decades before he even ran for president. He's qualified his statement on numerous occasions that we was speaking about illegal immigrants and yet, we see this being said: "calling [all Mexicans] rapists and murderers." He's has on plenty occasions said good things about Mexicans, has that even sunk in or do you depend on regurgitating misinformation?

So here we have these "protesters" in the open, is it ok that they be called violent mobs? criminals? anti-Americans? Thugs? Un-American? Hateful? How would you describe them? They've had their views whether it be anti - American or Mexican supremacy and they have signs to label themselves. Maybe many of them are actually illegal and Trump is threatening there mere existence in America? I say, good because these people are definitely not the crème of the crop representing Mexico.

A personal anecdote: I'm married to a beautiful Hispanic woman, whose family came here legally. However decades ago, one uncle tried to jump the border and got busted. Her grandmother had to bail him out and he went through the process and eventually became an American citizen (his son just graduated from Harvard). His is now a huge Trump supporter and I recently spoke with him, although I'm not voting for Trump, asked why and he said everyone should come here legally and he regrets that he tried to get to America this way and embarrassed himself. He also said that many Hispanics do not agree with illegal immigrants because many have no intention to become an American citizen, but benefit from whatever freebies they can. He's knows people that have been here over 10 years illegally and never once attempted to become a citizen. He has no respect for them and thinks they should become a citizen like others have.

Another personal anecdote: Speaking with my African American friend/co-worker whom I respect. I asked, as a New Yorker, in the last 20 years have you ever thought Trump to be a racist before he ran for President. He said well, no. I then asked, well what dis he say about African-Americans that was racist and he could not answer. Then he said the KKK endorsed him, in which I corrected and demonstrated wasn't true. He just shrugged his shoulders. To me, this is an example of what the media is doing, where people read no further than the headlines they form an opinion of basically whatever the media wants them to think. It's a bit disconcerting.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Nothing has changed for the better of America and its people. What part of illegal do leftists not understand? Housing, food, healthcare all paid by YOU. This country owes them nothing, yet the money that gets snatched from your paycheck is paying for their amenities and lottery tickets. Illegal aliens breed like cockroaches collecting handouts and freebies. These cockroaches call deportation an "irresponsibility." What do you call fouling Earth with 4 kids, pregnant with a 5th, all with different men collecting welfare? Tradition? Sure seems like it.

Trump has revived the voices of the ignored American people.

What exactly are these protestors protesting? Do they even know? Do they have ONE legitimate, logical, factual reason to be against him and his policies? They're ignorant to the mess this country is in and has become. So much so that Americans today are born to lose.

How is Trump racist? How does not wanting illegal aliens in your country make you racist? An illegal alien can be of any race. Seems to me they're more racist and prejudice in assuming every Hispanic is against Trump, came here crossing borders or supports illegal immigration. Racism today is not about race - it's about entitlement. It's about getting something BECAUSE your skin color is different. You won't give me what I want? RACIST! You don't agree with me? RACIST!

Meanwhile, people that aim to be successful in their lives are being punished. Their lives are becoming harder and more expensive to live. Why work hard, when it's cheaper not to? Parasites who CHOOSE to make a career out of a minimum wage job are getting $15 an hour. Supporters of that nonsense are completely oblivious to the impact that will have. But all is well in this country, right? On The Statue of Liberty it says: "Give me your tired, your poor..." Well IT'S AMERICANS WHO ARE TIRED AND POOR! Stop seeing the truth as a personal attack and VOTE TRUMP!

originally posted by: Lynneus
Regardless if Trump is racist towards Mexicans or not...
If all these protesters waiving Mexican flags want America to be like Mexico then please go back to Mexico. Absolutely nobody is going to stop you... unless they don't want you in their country either because your a piece of sh*t.

Did you hear yourself just then? Any self awareness there?

Let me translate--- Who cares if Trump and his supporters are racists, Mexicans are probably piece of sh*t illegals and should go back to Mexico. No one wants them here anyway.

a reply to: ker2010

"Illegals should be rounded up and deported by the millions. They are like cockroaches collecting freebies and handouts. They are sluts screwing around with multiple partners, collecting welfare for their cockroach babies."

Trump has revived these beautiful voices of the ignored American people!

Now, you tell me, how is Trump a racist? All he wants to do is deport the cockroach freeloading sluts and their freeloading cockroach babies and send them back to Mexico.

originally posted by: LordDraconia

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LordDraconia

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TechniXcality


There's more, this is just disgusting, and yes I do blame the liberals, as they are the ones who are attacking

13% of the US is African American
17% Is of Hispanic Origin

I think when a presidential nominee says racist and bigoted things about 30% of the US population it's no longer a "Liberal" thing...Hell, up until a decade ago Conservatives used to have the Latino vote locked up.

You can keep calling it a "Liberal" phenomena if it makes you feel better, but I am pretty sure that the folks we seeing engaging in violence could care less about politics until Trump came on the scene calling them rapists and murderers.

I know that racists on the left confuse Hispanics, many of which have been here for hundreds of years with Illegal immigrants but that's just not true.

WTF? Really...By "Racists on the left" you Mean Donald Trump???

Trump just this week derided the federal judge in his lawsuit case as a "Mexican" and told the WSJ that the judge should recuse himself because he has a conflict of interest "since I am building a wall"?????

Of course that judge was born in Indiana, but just happens to have a Latino name.

Oh you mean the guy that gives scholarships to illegal immigrants and supports La Raza a Mexican Supremacist Hate Group? How come KKK is bad but La Raza is good?
gotnews.com...

Wow...the stupidity is stunning...

From REDSTATE (And a gazillion others if you search)

Curiel, however, has no affiliation with this group whatsoever. He is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California – aka the Latino Bar Association of California. They have absolutely no affiliation with National Council of La Raza.

www.redstate.com...

a reply to: Indigo5

It is stunning, isn't it... the stupidity of Trump supporters. Do you think they really have no idea? Or do you think they deep down know, but they don't care?

a reply to: matafuchs

I am going to spare you the laundry list of Tweets he retweets from White Supremists with Twitter handles that are not so mysterious like @WhitegenocideTM...

Lets forget the failure to immediately denounce David Dukes endorsement..

Lets just keep it REALLY SIMPLE here..

WHY did he insert "African American" into this bit?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Indigo5

It is stunning, isn't it... the stupidity of Trump supporters. Do you think they really have no idea? Or do you think they deep down know, but they don't care?

Option B

a reply to: Indigo5

Care to point out what is actually the racist remark about Obama in that video?

REALLY SIMPLE is you have no evidence that he is racist.

You try to bring up the young black guy who got hit by an old white man. One incident. Not race motivated. The old guy would have hit him white or black. He was being disrespectful.

Here, a woman exits a rally and is hit with spit, bottles and eggs? People are chased done and beaten. Have personal property stolen and burned. Have there cars attacked. People jumped leaving.

There is no doubt at this point if I was in this situation, and someone touched me, I would simply open fire. They have NO respect for me, not for my political opinions, or the safety of me and my family. F em....

I mean, you know that is why this is being funded, right? They want a 'protester' to be shot so it can be blamed on Trump. It will happen.

originally posted by: matafuchs
Here, a woman exits a rally and is hit with spit, bottles and eggs? People are chased done and beaten. Have personal property stolen and burned. Have there cars attacked. People jumped leaving.

This kind of thing didn't happen with any of the other candidates. It didn't happen with Romney. This is a huge thing happening consistently around Trump. My question to you is, why do you think this is? What makes Trump so different?