It's my right to Piss you Off. AND IF YOU ARE......

originally posted by: makemap
American lifestyle for you.

"They call it freedom. I only see slavery"
"They call it free speech, I only see lies."
"They call it peace, I only see wars."
"They call it land of the free, I see no free lands."

But who makes those cages? No one has forced me to do anything (except buy health insurance I don't want). So what slavery? If you see people speaking lies, then exercise your right to free speech and counter those lies, but don't become part of the problem and seek to take that right away out of some misguided crusade to protect others from their own idiocy. Again, be the change you want to see if all you see is wars, but consider who effective talk is to ending conflict and what might happen if someone else's party spills into your backyard. What good would it be to hold all the land in common? We have that now in the West where government owns all that land. It belongs to you; doesn't it? Go use it. It's yours. Why aren't you out there now? And how would you use free land in such a way that it wouldn't impede someone else using the same?

I dont think before i talk, it does gets me in awkward situations, but its usually not me whos feeling it.

This seems like a false premise, trep. And I have to disagree with you.

No one has the right to piss anyone off, but neither does anyone not have the right to not be offended.

If you are an adult, you should be able to control what words from which people upset you.

No one can piss me off, I can only get pissed off by what people say. Input/Output.

How about this: Perhaps President Obama is trying to piss me off with his strawmen arguments and saying he knows what America stands for. I disagree with him most of the time. I consider Obama to be a first-rate political troll. If I get upset with Obama, is that his fault or mine?

Why? Well I think a lot of people touched on it but I think the reason why is because they seek attention; to be the champion or to get the biggest reaction. When you fail to react to them they either move on or get exponentially worse because they feed off of any attention, negative or otherwise.

Sometimes people do it out of instinct when they feel threatened. Sometimes out of frustration because they can't properly express themselves through other forms of communication.

Each case is as different as the person causing it. There is no general logic to it, really...otherwise why would we be concerned with the why?

originally posted by: intrepid
..... it's your fault.

Not referring to ATS per se. It seems like society today is this petty.

I have a problem with this thinking on so many levels. Yes, they are pixels on a screen but they are also communication. If you look at someone long enough, that varies from person to person, you will be able to "trigger" damn near anyone. That's the person's fault that someone took the time to figure out what would piss you off? That's YOUR fault?

Ridiculous.

Which leads me to the BIG part of my beef. WHY? Why do people feel the need to piss others off? Does it make you feel better? Is your life so damn bad that "misery loves company" isn't a colloquialism but a way of life? This childishness has to end.

Serious question...do you mean people who piss others off or people who intentionally try to piss others off? In short, if they are trying to piss you off it is a test or a challenge to a verbal fist fight. But if they just happen to be pissing you off, then its another story.

If they happen to piss you off, I would suggest taking a long look inward. There are always people that will piss me off (for example). It happened about four times yesterday and with some people...I may not know them but when I see them coming I just know they are going to say something that gets me going.

a reply to: Teikiatsu
Some people just like pushing other peoples buttons. People that do this are usually only showing their immaturity and insecurity or sometimes this is done strategically to show some people up particully somebody that is sensitive and reacts easily. This is of course a favourite tactic of bullies. Just as not pushing peoples buttons is showing maturity not reacting to these provocations or countering with good arguments is likewise showing maturity however sometimes arguing with idiots only creates two idiots or groups of idiots. Eg some of those on the radical left or the radical right of the political spectum as well as those with extemest religious views that will not listen to reason and will not compromise on any of their extreme views.
Many politicians say things to test reactions to what is said to gauge the public response, this should not piss people of as things are said and done all the time by politicians are contantly gauging the publics reactions to see what they can get away with and to formulate and manipulate public policy

Ahh but its soooooo fun to troll a troll.

The entertainment... Nothing short of Phwoarsome!!

But to troll others who cause no offense, that is just plain wrong.

Coomba98

a reply to: ketsuko

To name a few subjects that I will never change my mind on,
child porn,rape,murder...

originally posted by: intrepid
Why do people feel the need to piss others off?

If they are not being abusive or demonstrating anger....why get angered?

An opinion is only a speculative point of view.

a reply to: Quantum12

(Good rant, OP, thanks. Thumbs up)

Q! That really sucks. I'm so sorry to hear that and there you were, privately supporting me!



Anything I can do to help?...Never underestimate a determined ClownFish!

a reply to: ClownFish

Thank you, you can get the greedy people away from me until he is put to rest tomorrow. Lol

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, nicely put. I say move on...of course it's easier to say than to do.

I was taught that if you are going to err, then do it on the side of Love...but doing so is often judged otherwise.

So, I have a special rule for myself on ATS, that a few privately joke with me about:

Sigh...giggle...apologize profusely!

(Or just move on after the sigh)

...sigh...

a reply to: Quantum12

Ah...that's tempting but it would not be ethical from my place. I'll have to try to send you some extra protection instead.

a reply to: intrepid

That's the person's fault that someone took the time to figure out what would piss you off? That's YOUR fault?

your reasoning is completely ridiculous. I don't have to take the time to figure anything out to "trigger" anyone. All I have to do is state my opinions and someone is bound to be offended. Why? because being offended is completely subjective.

You're offended or triggered? Who cares??

Which leads me to the BIG part of my beef. WHY? Why do people feel the need to piss others off?

Being pissed-off is subjective.

Does it make you feel better? Is your life so damn bad that "misery loves company" isn't a colloquialism but a way of life? This childishness has to end.

I think the "misery" here lies squarely with the hyper-sensitive, easily triggered types.

I've noticed that sometimes people feel that a lack of emotion is a refusal to engage meaningfully with them, and so they will try to provoke anger. If you get another person angry at you, you make an impact; you break through their bubble. You suddenly gain a place in their memory, forged out of that strong emotion.

I think there's a reason we say things like "You want a peice of me???" Sometimes, they do. They want to hear your words, they want to feel your emotion, bathe in your focus, and take a place in your memory.
When you are apathetic, distant, or detached, you can actually be provoking others to provoke you...
The chicken and the egg question just goes round and round.

So we get mad sometimes. Why does that have to be such a big deal?

I think, in this medium, we especially want to avoid that because the emotions screw up our critical thought and analyzation skills, which make us suck at arguing...

There is also a lot of labeling going on, there seems to be a nickname for everything. I don't know what half of it means, but that's ok, lol

I call it manufactured outrage. People seek it out. I think our society of consumer culture causes a ton if internal pressure and people try to vent

TV ads show us how lousy our lives are, but if we had more money we could be happy !

a reply to: CharlestonChew

Good video

originally posted by: Bluesma


I think there's a reason we say things like "You want a peice of me???" Sometimes, they do. They want to hear your words, they want to feel your emotion, bathe in your focus, and take a place in your memory.
When you are apathetic, distant, or detached, you can actually be provoking others to provoke you...
The chicken and the egg question just goes round and round.

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Very insightful.

Latley, I have seen a few people post things like "Just waiting for the "..." crowd to show up now or "3,2,1 until "....." crowd shows up. There was one particular OP who seemed to be waiting for 3 people in particular, or just said that when they responded. It's childish.

a reply to: reldra

I agree.

While not quite as specific, I have ended one of my threads with a similar comment and regret doing so. It is a somewhat arrogant statement as it is exceedingly assumptive, taking away the sting of your opponents reply against their will.

Nevertheless, if you do notice a pattern which then occurs in your thread, you have the right to call those out who have demonstrated this behaviour, as long as it took place.