Salon's Pedophile Agenda MUST BE STOPPED

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: thinline
If you believe the stories about how many people in political power and Hollywood like them young, it's not hard to see the next argument: If a boy is age X can know he's really a girl and/or a boy at age X can know he is gay. Then how come, a boy at age X cannot know what age of a penis he wants to ummm "associate" with?

It also ties in perfectly with why they are being taught sex ed as young as 4 and 5 in the public school curriculum too, or at least they want to start teaching them that young.

www.pbs.org...

At the school my child goes to, they teach him(in an age appropriate way) about the perverts who might want to abuse him, and how to get react: Say NO, run away, tell a trusted adult.

Whatever agenda you're afraid of isn't happening in my neighborhood.

I think its 90% of kids abused is by someone they know, family member, neighbor, friend.

Our school teaches kids to yell, "Stranger Danger, Not my Daddy"

They do, however, teach about "tricky people" who might seem very nice and try to earn a child's trust.

We teach our children similarly.

Yeah, we do that too.

And we teach personal space, etc.

But, 90% someone they know.

Why do you keep saying that? Are you trying to imply that personal space education doesn't work if the perpetrator is Uncle Bob? If so, you have to understand that my original point wasn't about the effectiveness of the education (although I do believe it is conditionally effective, if the parents reinforce it properly).

My two cents: Of course it's someone they know. Pedophiles will often groom a child for years before he acts, whether he's Uncle Bob, the guy next door, or the little league coach. They almost always know their victims well.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Gryphon66

Trans* adults CAN consent to sex with another adult.

Yeah and if they're gay they should be included in LGB.

So what about people with peculiar fetishes? They can consent, should they all be added in too?

Why don't you start a movement to have folks call themselves what you think is best and identify themselves in the way it makes the most sense to you and ally only with those you approve of?

Because that seems to be the only objective point you have.

Trans* folks have been historically discriminated against in the same ways and for the same reasons that homosexuals and bisexuals have. I suspect you're aware of this.

Pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia are fundamentally different than sexual orientations and gender identities because of the primary (and blatantly obvious to most) difference of CONSENT.

Are you saying you really see no difference between a consensual and a forced or coercive act?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix
But if you still have your male sexual parts you do not belong in the women's bathrooms.

On principle, I totally agree with you.
But to be honest, if someone who looked very much like a woman, acted, talked, etc like a woman, I would be uncomfortable for that person to go into the mens room to use a urinal..that person should commit and walk into the womans stall, just like they always have been doing (unless there is a unisex bathroom, that is more appropriate). I have no clue how such a law would be worded though and make any sense "unless the looks test is satisfactory, in which case you may.."..what a mess.
Pandora's box is open..unisex bathrooms are gonna need to be a thing. a 3rd any gender..or just convert all bathrooms everywhere into private stall room for 1 only unisex and not worry about this ever again. That might actually be the best bet.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ketsuko

They'll never support pedophile priests, that'd be too much for them.

Oh, I know.

When they were suggesting it was the act that was wrong and not the orientation of being a pedophile and I pointed out that was a lot like a Christian's attitude toward homosexuality ... they did not like that at all, either.

All Christians don't share your views of homosexuality, nor your apparent need to connect sexual orientation to child abuse.

The difference in consensual acts and coercive acts are as clear as the difference between lovemaking and rape.

Are you saying there is no difference?

a reply to: Gryphon66

I see you're at it as usual Griff, tsk tsk. Must you MAN handle every cotton pickin thread on ATS?

That said, I utterly agree with and condemn anyone and anything that hints that pedophilia is just another sexual orientation or that child sexual abuse is a acceptable form of expression.

Both are disgusting and foreign. And yes, you can call me a bigot all day long for saying that pedophilia is disgusting.

If you don't see a difference between sexual abuse and consensual sex ... you're the problem not anybody else.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Gryphon66

I see you're at it as usual Griff, tsk tsk. Must you MAN handle every cotton pickin thread on ATS?

/eyeroll

I'm in about three or four threads. How about you?

Further, what's it to you? LOL.

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Thank you for seeing my point. The extreme left likes to lump everyone into their little safe space and use the people for their own little agenda, whatever that might be this week. They did the same thing with Muslims. You will find endless articles, editorials, videos, protests, etc. of people on the left "standing against Islamophobia" when parts of their culture have some of the worst human rights violators in the world.

Again, thank you for seeing my point. It is in the best interest of everyone, right, left, center, gay, straight, whatever, to stand against this filth.

Gay rights have come way too far to be lumped in with "virtuous pedophilia."

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: thinline
If you believe the stories about how many people in political power and Hollywood like them young, it's not hard to see the next argument: If a boy is age X can know he's really a girl and/or a boy at age X can know he is gay. Then how come, a boy at age X cannot know what age of a penis he wants to ummm "associate" with?

It also ties in perfectly with why they are being taught sex ed as young as 4 and 5 in the public school curriculum too, or at least they want to start teaching them that young.

www.pbs.org...

At the school my child goes to, they teach him(in an age appropriate way) about the perverts who might want to abuse him, and how to get react: Say NO, run away, tell a trusted adult.

Whatever agenda you're afraid of isn't happening in my neighborhood.

I think its 90% of kids abused is by someone they know, family member, neighbor, friend.

Our school teaches kids to yell, "Stranger Danger, Not my Daddy"

They do, however, teach about "tricky people" who might seem very nice and try to earn a child's trust.

We teach our children similarly.

Yeah, we do that too.

And we teach personal space, etc.

But, 90% someone they know.

Why do you keep saying that? Are you trying to imply that personal space education doesn't work if the perpetrator is Uncle Bob? If so, you have to understand that my original point wasn't about the effectiveness of the education (although I do believe it is conditionally effective, if the parents reinforce it properly).

My two cents: Of course it's someone they know. Pedophiles will often groom a child for years before he acts, whether he's Uncle Bob, the guy next door, or the little league coach. They almost always know their victims well.

Or aunt Annie or the woman next door or the female coach in school.

originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Thank you for seeing my point. The extreme left likes to lump everyone into their little safe space and use the people for their own little agenda, whatever that might be this week. They did the same thing with Muslims. You will find endless articles, editorials, videos, protests, etc. of people on the left "standing against Islamophobia" when parts of their culture have some of the worst human rights violators in the world.

Again, thank you for seeing my point. It is in the best interest of everyone, right, left, center, gay, straight, whatever, to stand against this filth.

Gay rights have come way too far to be lumped in with "virtuous pedophilia."

Who is the extreme left you're referring to here?

In your OP, you seemed to be casting a bit of a wide net ... implying that anyone who is left of your position is condoning child sexual abuse. You seem to be ameliorating that position in this post ... so ... who are you referring to?

The guy in the Salon video? Who else? And why do they have to be quantified as "Left"?

I'm sensitive to T&C violations and I don't want to get banned.

a reply to: markosity1973
Just returned from a call out. We have had 3 children sexually abused in less than 24 hours. It is heart-wrenching and scary, because there are children that can't or won't report they are being abused.

There is no excuse for this behavior. You don't let a coral snake or a copperhead roam freely in your living space, just because he may be hardwired to bite you, but he hasn't bite anyone yet.

Some things should not be tolerated.

originally posted by: Mousygretchen
a reply to: Winstonian
Theres a website that I wont name that caters to homosexual pedophiles. Its a chat room with 200+ old guys. They all watch MSNBC. The deep web is another place where these terrible monsters thrive and the fed needs to do a lot more to fight them on that front.

Somebody should petition to organize a deceptive rally in order to lure them out and gather in mass to represent themselves. They should then be summarily executed with fully-auto Light Machine Guns.

I wonder how many,as politicians, etc who likely frequent those as well, attend Bohemiam Grove(reference to Paul Bonacci and the murder there)? Oops, seems like the moloch set the woods on fire.

originally posted by: Mousygretchen
a reply to: Winstonian
Theres a website that I wont name that caters to homosexual pedophiles. Its a chat room with 200+ old guys. They all watch MSNBC. The deep web is another place where these terrible monsters thrive and the fed needs to do a lot more to fight them on that front.

Somebody should petition to organize a deceptive rally in order to lure them out and gather in mass to represent themselves. They should then be summarily executed with fully-auto Light Machine Guns.

Where do the heterosexual pedos hang out? Do they all watch Fox News and read Breitbart?

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: thinline
If you believe the stories about how many people in political power and Hollywood like them young, it's not hard to see the next argument: If a boy is age X can know he's really a girl and/or a boy at age X can know he is gay. Then how come, a boy at age X cannot know what age of a penis he wants to ummm "associate" with?

It also ties in perfectly with why they are being taught sex ed as young as 4 and 5 in the public school curriculum too, or at least they want to start teaching them that young.

www.pbs.org...

At the school my child goes to, they teach him(in an age appropriate way) about the perverts who might want to abuse him, and how to get react: Say NO, run away, tell a trusted adult.

Whatever agenda you're afraid of isn't happening in my neighborhood.

I think its 90% of kids abused is by someone they know, family member, neighbor, friend.

Our school teaches kids to yell, "Stranger Danger, Not my Daddy"

They do, however, teach about "tricky people" who might seem very nice and try to earn a child's trust.

We teach our children similarly.

Yeah, we do that too.

And we teach personal space, etc.

But, 90% someone they know.

Why do you keep saying that? Are you trying to imply that personal space education doesn't work if the perpetrator is Uncle Bob? If so, you have to understand that my original point wasn't about the effectiveness of the education (although I do believe it is conditionally effective, if the parents reinforce it properly).

My two cents: Of course it's someone they know. Pedophiles will often groom a child for years before he acts, whether he's Uncle Bob, the guy next door, or the little league coach. They almost always know their victims well.

Or aunt Annie or the woman next door or the female coach in school.

True, a pedo CAN be of either gender.

However, most sources that I've read indicate that males are much more likely to commit acts of pedophilia -- between 80% and 95% of all cases.

Other interesting tidbits:

about 30% of perpetrators are relatives
10% are strangers
The single largest category consists of acquaintances, and these are almost always people who look for opportunities to be in close proximity to large numbers of children.


In my child psychology course, I learned that the only type of child-sexual-abuse more likely to be committed by a female than a male was the act of leaving pornographic materials around where kids could find them.

a reply to: dreamingawake
We know that it is a problem in British Parliament. A big part of it is control and power in all facets of life, including sexual conquests, as terrible as that may sound. Jerry Sandusky, dennis Hastert, and even accusations of justice scalia, they all have some things in common, and all held positions of power. That's not a coincidence.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah yeah

a reply to: Winstonian

Yep this is evil and disgusting, and far past that. Humanity as a whole will never allow for it, it will cause a War and rightfully so.

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: thinline
If you believe the stories about how many people in political power and Hollywood like them young, it's not hard to see the next argument: If a boy is age X can know he's really a girl and/or a boy at age X can know he is gay. Then how come, a boy at age X cannot know what age of a penis he wants to ummm "associate" with?

It also ties in perfectly with why they are being taught sex ed as young as 4 and 5 in the public school curriculum too, or at least they want to start teaching them that young.

www.pbs.org...

At the school my child goes to, they teach him(in an age appropriate way) about the perverts who might want to abuse him, and how to get react: Say NO, run away, tell a trusted adult.

Whatever agenda you're afraid of isn't happening in my neighborhood.

I think its 90% of kids abused is by someone they know, family member, neighbor, friend.

Our school teaches kids to yell, "Stranger Danger, Not my Daddy"

They do, however, teach about "tricky people" who might seem very nice and try to earn a child's trust.

We teach our children similarly.

Yeah, we do that too.

And we teach personal space, etc.

But, 90% someone they know.

Why do you keep saying that? Are you trying to imply that personal space education doesn't work if the perpetrator is Uncle Bob? If so, you have to understand that my original point wasn't about the effectiveness of the education (although I do believe it is conditionally effective, if the parents reinforce it properly).

My two cents: Of course it's someone they know. Pedophiles will often groom a child for years before he acts, whether he's Uncle Bob, the guy next door, or the little league coach. They almost always know their victims well.

Or aunt Annie or the woman next door or the female coach in school.

True, a pedo CAN be of either gender.

However, most sources that I've read indicate that males are much more likely to commit acts of pedophilia -- between 80% and 95% of all cases.

Other interesting tidbits:

about 30% of perpetrators are relatives
10% are strangers
The single largest category consists of acquaintances, and these are almost always people who look for opportunities to be in close proximity to large numbers of children.


In my child psychology course, I learned that the only type of child-sexual-abuse more likely to be committed by a female than a male was the act of leaving pornographic materials around where kids could find them.

That is the second part of the problem. As you yourself already noticed after me pointing out how you and most other people automatically assume that only men can be pedophiles you then call up some random number simply because you then still just assume that men are responsible for at least 95% of the problem. This is also very incorrect and miles of target.

www.menstuff.org...

Approximately 95% of all youth reporting staff sexual misconduct said they had been victimized by female staff. In 2008, 42% of staff in state juvenile facilities were female. (Bureau of Justice Report)
More women (58%) than men (42%) are perpetrators of all forms of child maltreatment. (Child Maltreatment: Facts at a Glance CDC)

One in six adult men reported being sexually molested as children, and -- in a surprise finding -- nearly 40 percent of the perpetrators were female, a new study found. (Source Link)

About 27 percent of women and 34 percent of men among the Dunedin study members reported they had been physically abused by their partner. About 37 percent of women and 22 percent of men said they had perpetrated the violence. (Source Link)

It is quit dangerous to constantly imply that men are the sole perps when it comes to pedophilia whether consciously or subconsciously or not you and a lot of other people will just like you did now then still be convinced that only the men alone are responsible for something like 95% of these cases. The reason you and many others keep doing this is because you keep talking like that and also keep thinking almost 100% of pedophiles are male. It is patently wrong by large even.

In the meantime everybodies eye is on that one guy that may have incidentally spoken a word or 2 with their child in a shopping mall while that o so nice woman you run into every so often at that shopping mall who has been standing with you and your little ones having "just a friendly chat" with you and your offspring has been looking and thinking about them in that way all that time. You may have even been thinking and talking about her baby sitting for you at some point.

In the meantime your eye and thought is still on that guy and any other man in the surrounding because subconsciously you automatically already dismissed any sort of possibility that the woman right next to you and most others could possibly be pedophilic, reality however says otherwise.

Just some well needed perspective if one is really serious about childrens safety before any sort of agenda.

a reply to: everyone

I'm well aware there are female pedophiles, just so ya know.

It was not an oversight. I thought about posting both. Just chose not to.