Music and mind control (illuminati)

a reply to: AwakenYaMind
its not even just commercial music...

you can find it in any genre with relatively mass appeal...

but yes dont quite know how to pin this down


perhaps i should share one last profound thought that came to me a while ago


I have felt, sadly, especially in recent years, but quite profoundly and potently on occasions in the past, that I have a deeper connection to the collective subconsciousness through music, than through the actual human beings in my life... and some of those beings it has felt that way because of the music... something to think about..

now, please excuse me i have to go and meet my gaurdian angel.. she is waiting for me

One last thing: music by its very nature seems to promote a feeling of authenticity or kinship in certain listeners, in a way that books seldom do.

Steven King can write stories about rabid dogs, and psycho clowns, and little criticism is leveled at him regarding his choice of subjects, characters, voices or dialog. But a singer is almost universally regarded as the embodiment of their message; an avatar of its structure, form and meaning.

I'm not sure how that happened, to be honest. yet we take it for granted that when a singer performs a song, they are representing their own true feelings or views in some way, whereas we almost never assume a writer, or actor is doing the same. It's an odd double standard that we tend to accept without question, and I can see little reason to assume it must be more true for one than the other, to be honest.

a reply to: MiddleInitial

yo, thank you for your interest and questions..

lets see, there was a previous comment regarding 432, but this was the one of the articles i read- a quickie..

did you know you can easily search and download 432hz conversion software for computers and smartphones?.. what i've noticed tho is if i convert a song, then drop it into itunes, it goes back to 440hz, so i think itunes has an internal 440 conversion default..

likening the effects of alpha waves from tvs to 440hz and some of the mind numbing music i hear; of course there's different effects for different people.. after i had my spiritual awakening i became more sensitive to vibrations and subtle energies and i noticed even a lot of music i used to like fall out of favor to my ears..

ah yes, the earworm effect, i thought there was a term for it- thanx.. indeed you are correct, but the staying power of the kinds of messages and vibrations are worth considering..

a reply to: 0hlord

I found it interesting the the so called Schumann (sp?) Resonance is very close to the difference between 440 and 432. Right?

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

 This disharmony is, as far as I can tell -- the root of most of the churn in the pop / performer world, as most normal human beings cannot maintain a clinical detachment from their art while simultaneously living a pretense of passion, belief or intention. 

aha... i think you highlighted something very very interesting / important...

The pretence of passion...

passion should never be pretentious...

a reply to: 1984hasarrived

right on, thanx.. i'll try to dig for that and let you know..

i've seen this vid- good one! have you seen the one with him and David Icke?

yea Public Enemy is great! they've done so much for the hip hop culture and community.. professor griff was in that group and he's unleashed plenty of muck about the industry in dozens of vids on youtube...
i'd like to think more to the effect that rap got hijacked instead of losing its way, but maybe that's my hip hop faithful spirit talking

originally posted by: 0hlord
And if so, is it a widely practiced conspiracy, spanning different genres and cultures?

W/o how would $$ be generated from hip or in cultures that span the planet?
Money from: Trends set.
Trends that in turn influence clothes-cars-jewelry-houses (remember cribs) and traditions, in the darker elite realms drugs-guns-prostituting...

But its does not appear to only be music. It seems there are many entertainment and even media conduits that can affect the HUMAN SENSORY SYSTEM from movies (eyes - ears) internet (hands & eyes - ears) music (eyes - ears) books (hands - eyes & mouth).

These conduits basically have the ability to drive the minds remotely that are influence able to spend $$ on trends set mentioned above...
So it seems these conduits may rely on those affected in order to keep consumers purchasing and without music for example as well as the other mentioned conduits in place producers of the trends would generate limited funds from commercials and radio, internet broadcast and mailing like coupons and advertising...

If you study the music and movies of the past and present you will see the changes in the weapons, drugs and who controls them, clothes, jewelry, cars and even women presented. So these conduit and consumer to producer connections seem relevant to the general human populace that are easily directed, it seems...

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

I totally agree - I am a sucker for lyrics based songs, and especially when they are wrapped up in saccharine sounding pop. The song writers are cleverly using a catch tune to get to get radio play/have listen people to their song, but usually the people listening do not know what the song is actually about.

I have posted one here, with the lyrics - most people think this is just about going out and drinking, but it is much more than that, an attack on sexist/laddish attitudes, however it is just so poppy that many don't take the words on board. Another great song by the same group is called Sheep, if you want to check it out.

Also Chumbawamba which everyone knows for TubTumbin' but few actually realise it is not a song about drinking, but about fighting back.



Housemartins – Happy Hour Lyrics

It's happy hour again
I think I might be happy if I wasn't out with them
And they're happy it's a lovely place to be
Happy that the fire is real the barman is a she

Where the haircuts smile
And the meaning of style
Is a night out with the bass
Where you win or you lose
And its them who choose
And if you don't win then you've lost

What a good place to be
Don't believe it
'Cause they speak a different language
And it's never really happened to me
[It's happy hour again]
Don't believe it
'Cause they speak a different language
And it's never really happened to me
[It's happy hour again]

It's another night out with the boss
Following in footsteps overgrown with moss
And they tell me that women grow on trees
And if you catch them right they will land upon their knees

Where they open all their wallets
And they close all their minds
And they love to buy you all a drink
And then we ask all the questions
And you take all your clothes off
And go back to the kitchen sink

a reply to: AwakenYaMind

Yeah, maybe you are right about hip-hop there is still some good stuff out there. Chuck D has an app for a Rap radio station and they have some seriously cool stuff on there.

It is just that most of the hip-hop you see on MTV or whatever is rubbish.

80s was the best time to listen to rap and hip-hop, imo.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

i enjoyed reading your 2 comments, thanks for sharing your thoughts..

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
But a singer is almost universally regarded as the embodiment of their message; an avatar of its structure, form and meaning..
they are representing their own true feelings or views in some way,

haha, it's funny that this is true, but they are often times given a lil too much credit if they do not write their own lyrics, make their own beats/compositions, etc..
But if they don't write the lyrics, they are not representing fully the lyrics they sing right? for decades there have been professional songwriters who slip subliminal messages, even some esoteric stuff into songs for the artist to sing unknowingly exactly what they are singing.. this isn't something that happens all the time and certainly not with everybody in the industry, but interesting to consider nonetheless..
some of these mainstream people are put up on a pedestal on purpose and what are they really? a face, voice, dancer, entertainer- for someone pulling the strings from behind- to a certain extent.. that sounds kinda negative and not to make them look like they're only made to be a sexy singing/rapping puppet, but these people do have true talent- it takes balls to perform in front of national audiences and life must be like you mentioned in your first post, where they don't really have a decent private life and such.. i feel bad for some of these artists..

your double standard idea's got me thinking.. interesting.. with authors, maybe it's the fiction stereotype and that the brain behind the literature is not really associated with its material.. all we usually see on a hardback is the name

a reply to: 1984hasarriveden.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

yea man, good call.. this is definitely part of it...

that sensory comment triggered what i forgot to mention earlier about lyrics, even the ones that go over our head.. it's the subliminal messages in them that tap into our subconscious minds.. of course they don't have to be subliminal to have an effect on subjected ears, but i just wanted to throw that in there

a reply to: 0hlord

true, i tend to overgeneralize with the commercial music..

i resonate with your "last" thought.. music has been my best friend pretty much since i became an ex-pat in 2010..
i've had some very profound moments while listening to music..

yea this is interesting.. maybe a personal bias of someone is reinforced by certain songs that expose things about them you don't really care for? i can only take a stab at it, for it's your subjective views and unique tastes and interpretations of music.. but if anything, i hope you'll eventually see the positive in this scenario, or a learning tool to help you understand/improve your relationships with the people in your life..

a reply to: 0hlord
Interesting link - ta

a reply to: 1984hasarrived

word, unfortunately i was too young and into rock and pop in the 80's to establish a keen hip hop ear..

but since highschool i got deep into underground hip hop and y heads been down there ever since- although i like other genres of course.. there's good hip hop coming year in year out, it's just been tainted or overflowed with that other crap coming out that makes hip hop look bad..

i make a good amount of conscious hip hop mixes to help balance this.. i'm no pro dj, nor am i on a crusade, but a lot of the themes around my mixes are quite intriguing and full of meaningful messages..

haha, good happy hour to you sir!
i'm all about the lyrics too! interesting reading those funny lines, thanx for posting that

a reply to: AwakenYaMind

mate - I see you are in France

I live there when I am not overseas, if that makes sense.

Also, a lot of great rap/hip hop has come out of Paris over the last decade and more.

ETA I will check out your mix later.

It's possible, but my personal experience with music has been extremely positive. Music has lifted me out of dark moods and elevated my spirit. The power of music to deeply touch an individual cannot be accurately expressed with words alone.

a reply to: Dark Ghost
Ironic.
Listening to the blues can make you feel a whole lot better.

a reply to: Phage

Ironic indeed.

Sometimes I listen to what people would call "depressing music" and while it might be an expression of the way I am feeling, 99% of the time I feel better and more peaceful having listened to it.

a reply to: Dark Ghost

The Smiths?