Life Long Alien Abductee Family Podcast

Did I say anything about bad investigators?

You yourself project an opinion that is far from the middle. Those who remain in the middle that want to understand this phenomenon as objectively as possible do not share the same susceptibility to manipulation that you do.

I don't think I've ever seen you post in an abduction thread where you were even remotely skeptical. You ALWAYS hop on the bandwagon, without asking questions. And that's not good science!

I've said this to you once before Jack, and I will say it again:

If you want abductions to be validated by science then you need to approach them with the scientific method.

That includes looking at all possibilities. You always revert to ET, every time, as far as I've seen. And nothing else.

originally posted by: Jobeycool

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I do not know where to put this but Stan Romanek is back and showing evidence and trying to show He is credible...Guess the Admins can move it to the appropriate place.He also talks a little bit about His trial and how He was set up.Take it for what it is worth.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Oh sigh, I'm tired of this Romanek guy, I mean, have you seen the things he claims? Supposed alien pictures, hybrids phone calling him, plain stupid. You see, that's why having too many cases really helps to separate the trash from the actual truthful events.

There's NO other case ever recorded even remotely similar to what he claims. The conclusion is obvious, he's a hoaxer.

originally posted by: ColdWisdom


If you want abductions to be validated by science then you need to approach them with the scientific method.

You have not the variables under control to apply the scientific method properly. This is not a lab research. The phenomena overpower the victims and control the victims from beginning to end.

What do we have, specially in the early studies of the phenomena, are clear and consistent patterns, that usually clearly point to some sort of physical invervention. These people didn't know what was happening to them, and many many times reacted with absolute surprise when they found out that other people was suffering the exact same experiences!

Does it means that ALL the abduction-like scenarios are physical in nature? Hell no! But certainly many, many of them are.

a reply to: JackHill

Does it means that ALL the abduction-like scenarios are physical in nature? Hell no! But certainly many, many of them are.

I think you meant to say:

But certainly many of them appear to be.

Then you should have followed that with:

In my observation.

You are aware that legitimate scientists have been studying the abduction phenomenon for decades now right?

You need to read Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee. I uploaded a screenshot for you in another thread of a chapter devoted to psychosomatic induced abductions. And you ignored it.

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: Jobeycool

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I do not know where to put this but Stan Romanek is back and showing evidence and trying to show He is credible...Guess the Admins can move it to the appropriate place.He also talks a little bit about His trial and how He was set up.Take it for what it is worth.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Oh sigh, I'm tired of this Romanek guy, I mean, have you seen the things he claims? Supposed alien pictures, hybrids phone calling him, plain stupid. You see, that's why having too many cases really helps to separate the trash from the actual truthful events.

There's NO other case ever recorded even remotely similar to what he claims. The conclusion is obvious, he's a hoaxer.

If it is real it would be insanely disturbing if this stuff is going on.I find it interesting but laughable at the same time.

a reply to: Winstonian

Always the same, some other Youtuber wanting to advertise their videos.

No evidence.

I am a firm believer in other life but when people continue to post with word of mouth then evidence it is hard to even begin to listen.

I'm listening to the podcast right now. As an abductee myself, it is making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up...ever get that feeling when someone is discussing something paranormal that has happened to them, and you've had a similar experience? It happens to me quite often.

Thanks for taking the time to make this podcast, and to post the link here. I really appreciate it!

originally posted by: BlackProject
a reply to: Winstonian

Always the same, some other Youtuber wanting to advertise their videos.

No evidence.

I am a firm believer in other life but when people continue to post with word of mouth then evidence it is hard to even begin to listen.

What is your problem?


It is a PODCAST, and the guy is simply discussing his experience with these grey beings, and I find the story quite fascinating. Why does he have to prove anything to you? It would be one thing if he was stating he had evidence, or could prove aliens exist....but this isn't about that. It is a man being brave enough to share his experience with the world...and as an abductee I can say it must not be an easy thing to do...it takes guts.

If you don't believe in ETs, that's perfectly fine...but why dismiss his podcast just because he isn't in the business of proving something to you?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.

Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.

Take the subject seriously and then come back.

Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.

Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.

Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?

Why are you so bent on attacking people and their experiences?

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean you should attack it. Also, you aren't even attacking the theory, or the experiences, you are attacking the people themselves by not engaging in respectful dialogue.

You could simply say something like "While I'm not convinced of the alien abduction phenomena, I appreciate you contributing your podcast". Or, if you really can't find it inside of yourself to speak nicely to others, why even engage in this thread at all? If you are disbeliever, why can't you just be okay with not believing...why do you feel the need to preach to others?

Again, his podcast isn't about proving to you that aliens exist. I could understand if he posted something saying "I HAVE PROOF ALIENS EXIST. Check out my latest podcast!" Instead though, it is simply a podcast where him and his brother's friend discuss experiences that happened to both of them.




Everyone is entitled to their own opinion..... but when you start believing your opinion holds more weight than the opinion of others, you start to really do a disservice to yourself. By doing that, you close yourself off to further learning through the questioning of your own beliefs and opinions.

Sometimes, the best thing you can do to because a well-rounded, wise person is to simply LISTEN. It is through LISTENING that we learn the most, not through trying to convince others that we are better than them, or that we know more than them, or that their experiences are invalid.


Maybe from your perspective you are being some kind of crusader for truth..... because in your eyes aliens don't exist, they don't interact with other humans, and anyone who thinks they do needs to be taught a lesson. However, what you aren't realizing is that you are invalidating someone's experiences, that whether or not you believe in, seem very real to them.


I'm just asking for a little more understanding, and a little less criticism, because after all the OP wasn't posting a theory, or trying to convince anyone of anything....he was sharing a very personal experience with others.

originally posted by: supermarket2012

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.

Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.

Take the subject seriously and then come back.

Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.

Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.

Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?

Why are you so bent on attacking people and their experiences?

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean you should attack it. Also, you aren't even attacking the theory, or the experiences, you are attacking the people themselves by not engaging in respectful dialogue.

You could simply say something like "While I'm not convinced of the alien abduction phenomena, I appreciate you contributing your podcast". Or, if you really can't find it inside of yourself to speak nicely to others, why even engage in this thread at all? If you are disbeliever, why can't you just be okay with not believing...why do you feel the need to preach to others?

Again, his podcast isn't about proving to you that aliens exist. I could understand if he posted something saying "I HAVE PROOF ALIENS EXIST. Check out my latest podcast!" Instead though, it is simply a podcast where him and his brother's friend discuss experiences that happened to both of them.




Everyone is entitled to their own opinion..... but when you start believing your opinion holds more weight than the opinion of others, you start to really do a disservice to yourself. By doing that, you close yourself off to further learning through the questioning of your own beliefs and opinions.

Sometimes, the best thing you can do to because a well-rounded, wise person is to simply LISTEN. It is through LISTENING that we learn the most, not through trying to convince others that we are better than them, or that we know more than them, or that their experiences are invalid.


Maybe from your perspective you are being some kind of crusader for truth..... because in your eyes aliens don't exist, they don't interact with other humans, and anyone who thinks they do needs to be taught a lesson. However, what you aren't realizing is that you are invalidating someone's experiences, that whether or not you believe in, seem very real to them.


I'm just asking for a little more understanding, and a little less criticism, because after all the OP wasn't posting a theory, or trying to convince anyone of anything....he was sharing a very personal experience with others.

This is a public forum and i am entitled to post my opinion . My opinion is that there are no abductions going on. I have been told many many times that my eyes are shut, that I don't look up, that my mind is not open to aliens etc...i don't start off attacking people's posts, i ask for some evidence of their experience and a instantly get rounded in by rabid alien believers.

I dont believe that alien ufos are up there and I dont belive in aliens here on earth. And that pisses a lot of people off for some reason . Its just not acceptable to question someone's incredible story. Why is that?

originally posted by: Jobeycool

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: Jobeycool

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I do not know where to put this but Stan Romanek is back and showing evidence and trying to show He is credible...Guess the Admins can move it to the appropriate place.He also talks a little bit about His trial and how He was set up.Take it for what it is worth.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Oh sigh, I'm tired of this Romanek guy, I mean, have you seen the things he claims? Supposed alien pictures, hybrids phone calling him, plain stupid. You see, that's why having too many cases really helps to separate the trash from the actual truthful events.

There's NO other case ever recorded even remotely similar to what he claims. The conclusion is obvious, he's a hoaxer.

If it is real it would be insanely disturbing if this stuff is going on.I find it interesting but laughable at the same time.

Oh the 'stuff' is going on, no doubt at all. But Romanek is making things up, he claimed to photograph aliens several times, he claimed to photograph hybrid children around his home, sigh, he even claimed to receive phonecalls from his 'hybrid' children, everything is wrong on what he says, hybrid childrens are always aboard the ships (or whatever alien enviroment), they're never calling their human progenitors, much less snooping around abductees homes. Pure nonsense.

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: supermarket2012

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.

Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.

Take the subject seriously and then come back.

Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.

Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.

Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?

Why are you so bent on attacking people and their experiences?

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean you should attack it. Also, you aren't even attacking the theory, or the experiences, you are attacking the people themselves by not engaging in respectful dialogue.

You could simply say something like "While I'm not convinced of the alien abduction phenomena, I appreciate you contributing your podcast". Or, if you really can't find it inside of yourself to speak nicely to others, why even engage in this thread at all? If you are disbeliever, why can't you just be okay with not believing...why do you feel the need to preach to others?

Again, his podcast isn't about proving to you that aliens exist. I could understand if he posted something saying "I HAVE PROOF ALIENS EXIST. Check out my latest podcast!" Instead though, it is simply a podcast where him and his brother's friend discuss experiences that happened to both of them.




Everyone is entitled to their own opinion..... but when you start believing your opinion holds more weight than the opinion of others, you start to really do a disservice to yourself. By doing that, you close yourself off to further learning through the questioning of your own beliefs and opinions.

Sometimes, the best thing you can do to because a well-rounded, wise person is to simply LISTEN. It is through LISTENING that we learn the most, not through trying to convince others that we are better than them, or that we know more than them, or that their experiences are invalid.


Maybe from your perspective you are being some kind of crusader for truth..... because in your eyes aliens don't exist, they don't interact with other humans, and anyone who thinks they do needs to be taught a lesson. However, what you aren't realizing is that you are invalidating someone's experiences, that whether or not you believe in, seem very real to them.


I'm just asking for a little more understanding, and a little less criticism, because after all the OP wasn't posting a theory, or trying to convince anyone of anything....he was sharing a very personal experience with others.

This is a public forum and i am entitled to post my opinion . My opinion is that there are no abductions going on. I have been told many many times that my eyes are shut, that I don't look up, that my mind is not open to aliens etc...i don't start off attacking people's posts, i ask for some evidence of their experience and a instantly get rounded in by rabid alien believers.

I dont believe that alien ufos are up there and I dont belive in aliens here on earth. And that pisses a lot of people off for some reason . Its just not acceptable to question someone's incredible story. Why is that?

I think it is absolutely fine to question someone's story, but there is a place and time for it.

I definitely think threads that claim to have proof, or are created to spark debate are wonderful opportunities to voice your opinion!

A thread like this is a little bit different though, in that the OP isn't really trying to argue about whether or not ETs exist, or visitations happen....he is simply trying to get his story out there.

As for your opinion, I think it is a sane one. The idea of aliens existing, let alone visiting our planet, and interacting with humans, is a HUGE pill to swallow. If one admits that aliens exist, that ALONE would change how one views the world, religion, and many other things.

The implications of visitations is far greater than even that....so I totally get your opinion. Also, I agree with you 100% that there is no solid evidence for abductions....and therefore anyone claiming to have "proof" SHOULD be questioned!


I'm sorry people have attacked you in the past for sharing your opinion...and if I saw anyone doing that, I would voice my opinion against it personally.


Like I said, I would just be a bit more gentle in your approach...because those of us who have had these traumatic experiences aren't sharing them because we are crazy, or want attention, or are seeking financial gain. While you are entitled to voice your opinion, again I don't believe you are entitled to try to invalidate the experiences of another. That just doesn't isn't a nice thing to do, and the fact that you replied to me and didn't attack me shows that you are probably a good person, and just frustrated with the topic perhaps.


Anyway, thanks for responding

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: Jobeycool

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: Jobeycool

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I do not know where to put this but Stan Romanek is back and showing evidence and trying to show He is credible...Guess the Admins can move it to the appropriate place.He also talks a little bit about His trial and how He was set up.Take it for what it is worth.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Oh sigh, I'm tired of this Romanek guy, I mean, have you seen the things he claims? Supposed alien pictures, hybrids phone calling him, plain stupid. You see, that's why having too many cases really helps to separate the trash from the actual truthful events.

There's NO other case ever recorded even remotely similar to what he claims. The conclusion is obvious, he's a hoaxer.

If it is real it would be insanely disturbing if this stuff is going on.I find it interesting but laughable at the same time.

Oh the 'stuff' is going on, no doubt at all. But Romanek is making things up, he claimed to photograph aliens several times, he claimed to photograph hybrid children around his home, sigh, he even claimed to receive phonecalls from his 'hybrid' children, everything is wrong on what he says, hybrid childrens are always aboard the ships (or whatever alien enviroment), they're never calling their human progenitors, much less snooping around abductees homes. Pure nonsense.

Honestly, the people who ARE creating these stories for attention, fame, money, or because they are just crazy are doing a GREAT harm to the community at large.

a reply to: supermarket2012

No worries. I realise I'm not the most tactful person when voicing my opinion on these matters.