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posted on May, 17 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: JackHill

Thanks! Where do you get your information from? I hear of all kinds of different stories similar to what you are saying, and it is hard to really see where the truth is. David Icke says there are reptilians, other people say that there are 12 different races of aliens and a galactic federation. I am open minded of course, but it is hard to really tell what is fact and what is fiction. I think there are a lot of media outlets that focus on the supernatural that are just trying to make a buck and disregard the truth. Any sold info you have would be appreciated!


The only way to get the best information right now is go directly to the source, that is, listening to the abductees (specially the ones that won't be interested into going public so we can disregard any ulterior agenda) and paying attention to the work of several researchers and the patterns they uncovered, meaning, all the matching information coming from people that never met eachother.

And the truth revealed so far is disturbing. There's is an alien species using our own genetic material to produce human looking hybrid beings, that are able to mind-control and mind-reading, in order to infiltrate them into our society. This should be enough to start demanding the authorities clarification and what's being done to fight this obvious cover invasion.

If we do nothing, we could be facing a potential extinction of our race as the dominant species on this planet, becoming a second-class species or either be completely wiped out/enslaved/exploited.
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posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Sure, no problem:

Patterns.

Thanks for playing. Take the subject seriously and then come back.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: twohawks

I am trying to get her to at least let me listen to them. She agreed to come onto my show again later this month for a follow up episode, as they usually have an event happen in mid-May at about the same time every year. Believe me I am going to do everything I can to get those tapes. I can imagine the fear she has releasing such intimate information.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.


No. They have no evidence. And neither do you. Other than of a very active imagination . Take care.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.


No. They have no evidence. And neither do you. Other than of a very active imagination . Take care.


From where I'm sitting, you are the one who has no evidence of anything so the deficit lies with you. And the government has tons of evidence much of which can be read at the black vault which has hundreds of thousands of documents pertaining to the subject including abduction accounts. Most of the really good stuff is still classified top secret and blacked out on those documents.
If you sleep better at night believing abductions never happen, then that is your choice, but it is quite obvious you are living in denial, which for you, really is just a river in Egypt.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.


No. They have no evidence. And neither do you. Other than of a very active imagination . Take care.


From where I'm sitting, you are the one who has no evidence of anything so the deficit lies with you. And the government has tons of evidence much of which can be read at the black vault which has hundreds of thousands of documents pertaining to the subject including abduction accounts. Most of the really good stuff is still classified top secret and blacked out on those documents.
If you sleep better at night believing abductions never happen, then that is your choice, but it is quite obvious you are living in denial, which for you, really is just a river in Egypt.


I'm not making the incredible claim. Do I really need to explain that the onus is on the ones making the claim to stump up the proof? Come on man...

The fact that I don't believe In alien abductions has zero effect my sleep. Just as (and honestly, with all due respect) I don't lose sleep over Martians from Mars, leprechauns, manbearpig etc... i don't believe in any of them. You are welcome to of course

Rest assured that the day substantial evidence cones of aliens visiting earth for whatever reason, I WILL believe.

Also..can I ask? How do you know most of the good stuff is classified and top secret? I don't get it.
edit on 17-5-2016 by 3danimator2014 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

But Manbearpig is real! I know, because someone said so, and he seemed super serial!



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.


No. They have no evidence. And neither do you. Other than of a very active imagination . Take care.


From where I'm sitting, you are the one who has no evidence of anything so the deficit lies with you. And the government has tons of evidence much of which can be read at the black vault which has hundreds of thousands of documents pertaining to the subject including abduction accounts. Most of the really good stuff is still classified top secret and blacked out on those documents.
If you sleep better at night believing abductions never happen, then that is your choice, but it is quite obvious you are living in denial, which for you, really is just a river in Egypt.


I'm not making the incredible claim. Do I really need to explain that the onus is on the ones making the claim to stump up the proof? Come on man...

The fact that I don't believe In alien abductions has zero effect my sleep. Just as (and honestly, with all due respect) I don't lose sleep over Martians from Mars, leprechauns, manbearpig etc... i don't believe in any of them. You are welcome to of course

Rest assured that the day substantial evidence cones of aliens visiting earth for whatever reason, I WILL believe.

Also..can I ask? How do you know most of the good stuff is classified and top secret? I don't get it.


The thing is, for one, nobody told you you have to come here and accept anyone's claim about anything in the first place, so blustering on about anyone who does make a claim, especially for something you don't even believe in to begin with, seems to lead one to conclude that you have some kind of problem with the subject, to spend your time addling on to others how imaginative they are, or wrong they are, and then make out that they, for some reason must substantiate there claims really doesn't make a bit of sense at all.
Why waste your time at all about something you don't think is happening?

By the way, I have many insider sources and used to work as a civilian subcontractor on Kirtland AFB in New Mexico, so I have been "exposed" to certain realities of which go far beyond what people see on the surface of their lives, and which I have no need or desire to prove any of it for the simple reason that even if everyone knew what I do, it won't matter, since there is nothing anyone can do about it anyways.

It just is what it is. So to summarize, I am not here to "prove" anything, and am only here to share with others who already understand the situation and who also have an aptitude for understanding, of things not normally seen or heard.

And not here to hold the hands of those who spit and bluster about things way beyond even their desire for comprehension.. There, that should get the point across.. (again)

edit:
Also, you asked how a person can know something is still classified secret/top secret.
And the answer is, when you submit a freedom of information request, and half the page is STILL blacked out so you can't see it, that by proxy means that the information is still classified and is not yet (if ever) eligible for declassification under whichever executive order currently has the power over it's classified status. Right now I think it is Executive Order 13526. It used to be 12356.
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posted on May, 17 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: A51Watcher

For a while, I got immersed in the abduction topics and found some of it quite fascinating. Lots and lots of smoke and BS with shovel-fulls of abnormal psychology at play too. My take-away is there was something unusual occurring in the heart of it and layers of cultural and psychological nonsense wrapped around it. A lot of commentators were too busy baulking at 'aliens' to acknowledge a phenomenon.

With regards to the woman, I personally can't rule out the power of psychology and belief systems that can hold sway in tight groups and families. Obviously, you were there and have your own impressions; it'd be arrogant for me to dismiss that and I don't. However, I'm reminded of an abductee support group who released a lot of podcasts. They had no filters and nobody was acting as a 'brake' or a balance. It allowed them to abide within a self-fulfilling construct rather like that 'echo chamber' people are so fond of decrying around here. They've coloured my perspective and trust of the scene.

The Kentucky report was an interesting one - my Allagash.

a reply to: Winstonian

Sorry for talking over you in here. I'll listen to the related podcasts later today when I get the chance.




I cannot disagree with what you said Kandinsky.

As a matter of fact, anytime the subject was going to be abductions at our UFO group, you were guaranteed to have the most colorful outlandish people and stories present.

However research shows there is something unusual occurring in the heart of it as you mentioned.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: ClownFish
a reply to: A51Watcher



My partner wound up dead shortly after that so also unable to do any follow up.

The majority of my research files were lost in a house fire close to 2K, which is why I was unable to go into further detail in the above post.


Sorry to hear about your partner.

Please tell me these events are unrelated.


No I don't think these 2 events were related.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.

Why would these beings work so hard to infiltrate human looking hybrids into our society? I suspect the final goal is a global takeover, an invasion from beneath if you like.

If we as a collective don't start demanding the authorities about clarification on what they obviously must know and force them to admit this is a reality, and know what are they doing in order to fight this, if they're in fact doing anything at all, then we better start preparing for the worst.



Good points Jack.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014



Wow teach, you seem pretty flustered about getting your post registered, you might want relax and hit refresh next time so as to avoid dbl posting and looking like such an obvious type A personality.



Awww....a house fire. You sure?


Sure, it's a matter of record with the local fire dept.



Maybe the dog ate your evidence?


Maybe being a relative noob on ATS, you haven't learned yet that mocking someone with no reason to - gains you no points in a debate, in fact quite the opposite - your immaturity shines through.



So many decade, so many excused by all involved in the UFO scene.


Statements not related to the point being discussed, are also noticed by all readers, not just the person you are debating with. Readers notice distraction and deflection attempts. It is seen as desperation and not having a case to make.



"My partner was bringing the evidence over to publish and he died of a car crash"


I never said anything about my partner bringing evidence to publish or of him dying in a car crash.

Do you always make crap up as you go along when trying to debate someone?

My partner dying also happens to be a matter of record.

Look up Ron Rummel. I also spoke at his funeral.



"My house burnt down"


Actually it was the garage/workshop building next to the house. And as I already mentioned it is a matter of record with the local fire dept.

My moving to the east coast from the west coast is also a matter of record.



"I don't own a camera"
"I will upload tonight, i can't now"
"My mother threw out the files"


I never said any of the above, as is obvious to everyone, just more immature mocking on your part.



Sure, of COURSE i will be happy to listen to your fantastic story for hours and believe every word you say without a shred of evidence to back it up?? Id be crazy not to. Right?
.......RIGHT?



No, WRONG.

No one asked you to listen for hours, unless it takes you that long to read one page of text.

Sorry to disappoint, since you were obviously in a huge rush to post your snarky little diatribe, but as usual you were in a big rush to display your ignorance of the situation without knowing any of the facts.

Which is amusing considering my little story proves nothing in and of itself.

Teenage girls with scoop marks on their arms, big deal.

But you saw it as an opportunity to do what you love best.


But thanks for stopping by.





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posted on May, 17 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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Why can't people have open-minded conversations without reverting back to four-letter words and petty insults? If you don't believe in the possibility of anything out of your norm happening, why are you here to begin with? You just come off like every other thirteen year old on YouTube, spewing ignorant, intolerant rhetoric, needing to get the last word in as if that will somehow prove your "point." I truly don't understand.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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Why can't people have open-minded conversations without reverting back to four-letter words and petty insults? If you don't believe in the possibility of anything out of your norm happening, why are you here to begin with? You just come off like every other thirteen year old on YouTube, spewing ignorant, intolerant rhetoric, needing to get the last word in as if that will somehow prove your "point." I truly don't understand.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: JackHill
Good for you for coming out with this story OP.

People need to realize once for all that these beings are infiltrating hybrids into our society from some years now. The whole purpose of the abduction program was to get genetic material for the crossovers and use the abductees as unwilling participants to teach hybrids about our manners and life style.


Please explain how listening to some random strangers story with nothing to his claims up can in any way be used for this.


Take the subject seriously and then come back.



Impossible to do that I'm afraid. You know as well as i that abductee stories are all similar for a reason. Its been well researched and documented. And it aint cuz they are true.


Not wasting my time again explaining why the supposed explanations will never fill all the gaps. Nice try though, but not doint it again.


Thats cool. I didn't expect you to. You guys never do. When asked for any tangible evidence whatsoever, you either cut and run or get angry with the skeptic or dismiss them as trolls, waste of time etc, rather than proceed what millions of people are asking for.

little hint: Show the world SOME evidence of any alien activity of any form on Earth and the laughing will stop. Pretty please can i see some?


I will procede to ignore you from this point. I'm not angry certainly, believe me, just tired of these kinds of debates. I mean, after all these decades still discussing about the 'reality' of the abductions?

If you're so eager of evidence, maybe you should ask the US goverment for it. I bet they got something close to what you're looking for.


No. They have no evidence. And neither do you. Other than of a very active imagination . Take care.


From where I'm sitting, you are the one who has no evidence of anything so the deficit lies with you. And the government has tons of evidence much of which can be read at the black vault which has hundreds of thousands of documents pertaining to the subject including abduction accounts. Most of the really good stuff is still classified top secret and blacked out on those documents.
If you sleep better at night believing abductions never happen, then that is your choice, but it is quite obvious you are living in denial, which for you, really is just a river in Egypt.


I'm not making the incredible claim. Do I really need to explain that the onus is on the ones making the claim to stump up the proof? Come on man...

The fact that I don't believe In alien abductions has zero effect my sleep. Just as (and honestly, with all due respect) I don't lose sleep over Martians from Mars, leprechauns, manbearpig etc... i don't believe in any of them. You are welcome to of course

Rest assured that the day substantial evidence cones of aliens visiting earth for whatever reason, I WILL believe.

Also..can I ask? How do you know most of the good stuff is classified and top secret? I don't get it.

By the way, I have many insider sources and used to work as a civilian subcontractor on Kirtland AFB in New Mexico, so I have been "exposed" to certain realities of which go far beyond what people see on the surface of their lives, and which I have no need or desire to prove any of it for the simple reason that even if everyone knew what I do, it won't matter, since there is nothing anyone can do about it anyways.

Interesting, because I too have many "insider sources" in the defense and aerospace industries, and have also worked as a civilian on Kirtland AFB, and I don't believe a word you're saying.




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