History of Freemasonry Help

a reply to: TerryDon79

you really cant read can you

where did i say it was fact ?.......


"And none of them have got anything to do with the history of freemasonry. You know, the topic of this thread."

i was answering augustus's question

i am sorry it is off topic

originally posted by: kibric
i was answering augustus's question

My question was, 'what spirit guide?', which you did not answer.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: TerryDon79

Yes, he kept posting constellations and trying to use that as proof of Masonry changing over the years. But that was not even the premise of your Original Post.

Ah yes, the star constellation.

That guy was a wierdo who obviously didn't fact check a thing he said. That's what the thread is about, evidence. Not dreams and assumptions.

originally posted by: kibric
a reply to: TerryDon79

you really cant read can you

where did i say it was fact ?.......


"And none of them have got anything to do with the history of freemasonry. You know, the topic of this thread."

i was answering augustus's question

i am sorry it is off topic

But you've made a bunch of assumptions from the moment you posted.

Why post on a thread requiring evidence if you can't provide any?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Albert's letter to Mazzini
in which he supposedly got information from a spirit guide

yes supposedly , verifying the experiences of a dead man is difficult

i never presented anything as fact
just my observation

originally posted by: kibric
Albert's letter to Mazzini

The Taxil Hoax again? We covered this in another thread. You forget about that already?

a reply to: TerryDon79

assumptions ?

i made a statement Albert pike was spiritually deceived

i clarified that this was my observation based on my experience
believable or not too you

i merely stated an opinion

i apologise for posting in this thread

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

i did say supposedly didn't i ?

originally posted by: kibric
i did say supposedly didn't i ?

'Supposedly' does not even cover your alleged dream about a known hoax.

It sounds to me like you are trolling the Original Poster who started a thread looking for evidence, not what you are shoveling.

originally posted by: kibric
a reply to: TerryDon79

assumptions ?

i made a statement Albert pike was spiritually deceived

Which you have no evidence for. That would make it an assumption.

i clarified that this was my observation based on my experience
believable or not too you

You do realise this thread is about EVIDENCE?

i merely stated an opinion

Even though this thread is about evidence?

i apologise for posting in this thread

It's ok.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

wow

i certainly wont share opinions here
thank you for the lesson

i am shovelling the answer to your question
based on my experience
whether it bothers you or not
is not my concern

originally posted by: kibric
based on my experience

Dreams are not evidence.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

i never said they were

you are right the OP is about verifiable evidence


lesson learned

originally posted by: kibric
Masons should know that if they believe in "spirit guides "
and listen to information given by them
these "spirit guides " can lie and manipulate just as well as any man

What makes you think we believe in "spirit guides"?

Albert pike being spiritually deceived
was my observation on his "spirit guide "

He was an Episcopalian I believe.

a reply to: kibric
Which was a hoax.

a reply to: KSigMason

"What makes you think we believe in "spirit guides"?

"if they believe in "spirit guides "

depending on ones own beliefs
Masons do not discriminate...?

i sincerely apologise
i have been spiritually deceived

" Meanwhile your opinion on Albert Pike is just that, an opinion." - Solomonopoly
very true

this is not the thread to discuss

Operative masonry has nothing to do with speculative freemasonry. Operative masonry was a genuine mystery school. Speculative freemasonry is a Zionist run (most of its members unaware of this) political tool which ripped off some of the symbols of the operative masons. Outwardly it has the smell of a genuine mystery school but when you take a bite all you get is a mouth full of feathers.

a reply to: zinc12

Try finding out the difference between speculative and operative freemasonry before making such a huge mistake of posting rubbish that is 1, wrong and 2, has nothing to do with the thread.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: zinc12

Try finding out the difference between speculative and operative freemasonry before making such a huge mistake of posting rubbish that is 1, wrong and 2, has nothing to do with the thread.

It has everything to do with the thread because you are treating operative masonry and speculative freemasonry as though they are one institution.

a reply to: zinc12
I don't think you could be any more wrong.

originally posted by: zinc12
Operative masonry was a genuine mystery school.

Operative Masonry was an actual construction guild that protected and taught its trade via allegorical lessons utilizing geometry.