Axe wielding woman shot dead by Tennessee police after eviction notice

This again was a cops fault. All cops are criminals (sarcasm off). The woman approached the cop with an axe while being warned numerous times to 'drop it'. Why can't people just listen to an LEO the first time?

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a reply to: UnBreakable

He could have tazed her?

He could have ran and called for back up? She was trying to keep him from where she lived, not chase him down the street.

Simply not following directions should not= being shot.

He still yells "drop it" after she has been shot twice and is on the ground.


You don't HAVE to listen to a police officeer the first, second or even 30th time. That is not grounds for summary execution.

a reply to: reldra

The problem with tazing someone in a situation like that is if you miss or get a bad hit you only have the one chance and people move pretty fast.

He did the right thing. It's sad, but when you charge a cop with an axe expect to get shot.

Not following directions to stop threatening someone's life with a weapon should = you get shot. Cop was retreating, he gave her ample opportunity to knock it off.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: reldra

The problem with tazing someone in a situation like that is if you miss or get a bad hit you only have the one chance and people move pretty fast.

He did the right thing. It's sad, but when you charge a cop with an axe expect to get shot.

Not following directions to stop threatening someone's life with a weapon should = you get shot. Cop was retreating, he gave her ample opportunity to knock it off.

She was walking, walking quickly, and the axe was down, not up. She was carrying it at her side.

Aiming with a tazer might be more successful. Several barbs from a tazer shoot out. With a gun, it is one bullet at a time.

a reply to: Domo1

I agree with you. He only shot after he backed into the vehicle and was unable to retreat further (shown in second half of the video).

a reply to: reldra

I'm sorry, but it appears that he backed into his backup trying to keep some distance between them. the way the lady is walking makes me wonder if she wouldn't have axed the cop to death. I don't blame him for shooting...

a reply to: reldra

She was walking, walking quickly, and the axe was down, not up. She was carrying it at her side.

I don't think a cop should be required to chance her not swinging the axe. That was highly aggressive, and with a very devastating weapon.

Aiming with a tazer might be more successful. Several barbs from a tazer shoot out. With a gun, it is one bullet at a time.

Two barbs shoot out, if they don't both hit you wasted the one shot from the tazer and then need to drop it, unholster your pistol and get it on target.

One bullet at a time, true, but he's got 18 of them and can keep them coming in rapid succession. Guns are more accurate.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

I also noticed her right hand (holding the axe) came up a second before the shot.

I'm calling it justified. There was a threat and she wasn't backing off.

Yeah, maybe a taser could have been used, but the gun was in the officer's hand and putting it back into the holster to get out a taser could easily leave him with an axe in his skull.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: reldra

I'm sorry, but it appears that he backed into his backup trying to keep some distance between them. the way the lady is walking makes me wonder if she wouldn't have axed the cop to death. I don't blame him for shooting...

I re watched the last part of the video. You are right. He was backed into a car. In this case, it is a tough call. He didn't even try a tazer first, though. At the beginning he should have used that right away.

In brittain, police don't even carry guns. When they need guns, they call for a different type of officer. US police use guns too fast and too much. In regard to the OP, I think they are using a 'tough call' to defend high profile shootings by police with this example.

a reply to: reldra

U.K. Police don't carry guns, so don't have the choice

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Really sad situation but I couldn't help laughing at the cop walking up (and he looked so cocky) with that bin and ramming him completely ineffectually.

UK cops don't even get tazers? They should at least hae tazers.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: reldra

U.K. Police don't carry guns, so don't have the choice

Yep. No guns. One cop tries to ram him with a garbage tote. It gets handled without killing a VERY BIG, VERY AGGRESSIVE man running around with a machete.

So, in the OP's video, police in the US weren't able to turn a situation around by avoiding/running around/asking for more backup, for a small woman with an axe.

That is the problem in the US. It is 'stop or get shot'. They have no other training. Both people with weapons were in a bad and excited mental state.

Two different endings.

a reply to: reldra

And, as every American knows (or should know), you never take a knife (or axe) to a gunfight.

Act according to the country you live in.

a reply to: Domo1
Yeah they got tazers but you see the one cop pepper spay himself, so maybe thought he wouldn't get the taser out. They do have armed back up.

originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: reldra

And, as every American knows (or should know), you never take a knife (or axe) to a gunfight.

Act according to the country you live in.

That is true. But the woman in the first video seemed as mentally out of it as the guy in the UK video. I don;t think either knew what they were doing.

So true, in the US, you probably would get shot. It is so backwards.

We have seen police drive up oin a 12 year old child in a park and shoot him, within about 1 minute or less

a reply to: reldra I think if I'd been in that situation with a gun, I would have shot the bloke, but it's apples and oranges to compare the two countries. I understand why American cops can be a little more quick to pull the trigger, when every criminal is potentially arme. Who needs a gun when you have a wheely bin

Reminds me of a joke about a garbage collector and a Chinese man

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: reldra I think if I'd been in that situation with a gun, I would have shot the bloke, but it's apples and oranges to compare the two countries. I understand why American cops can be a little more quick to pull the trigger, when every criminal is potentially armed

If it was just myself, not being a trained officer, and I had nowhere to go, then yes. I would have shot him. But I still think US police officers when facing an axe or a knife, should be trained in ways other than 'shoot dead after asking to drop it' 3 times. The person they are speaking to may not be in a mental state to understand.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: UnBreakable


He still yells "drop it" after she has been shot twice and is on the ground.

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Maybe he was stunned because he just killed a woman who was coming at him with an axe. What do you say when that happens? If someone comes at you with an axe and you had a gun what would you do? If you didn't have a gun then what would you do? I can tell you you would be dead or severly injured. You can train all you want like cops do but she did it to herself.

a reply to: masqua

I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. I think he would have likely given her more time had he not been backed into a spot where he could not move from. As it stood, it was him or her and faced with that choice myself... It will be me every time.

Some citizens need to start taking responsibility. No one living here is unaware that if you charge an officer with a deadly weapon, you likely will never see the sun rise on another day. They take the risk and the pay out remains the same. I think most folks that do this are doing it for that very reason. Suicide by cop.

Regular citizens would fire upon someone coming at them like that as well if they felt their life was in danger. This whole idea that cops should wait until they are harmed or killed is ludicrous to me. Should he have waited until she swung and cleaved his arm from his shoulder or put the ax through his skull?

I have personally witnessed folks being tazed that were not affected by it like you "see on tv", same with pepper spray.

Given the same circumstances I would have done the same. It's unfortunate that anyone ever has to die like that for sure and calling it justified does not mean that it is celebrated.

a reply to: reldra

From what I noticed as a difference between the machete handler and the axe wielder is that the first walked slowly and aimlessly while the second walked quickly in a straight line and with deliberation.

The number of police against the machete wielder shows the confrontation went on a long, long time. What we don't know is how long the police tried to calm down the woman with the axe. I'm guessing not even half as long before she decided to directly threaten the officer as he drove up. In other words, she precipitated the action by her determination to get at that officer. Didn't look like he had time to choose any other action.