American Psychiatric Association pushes for electroshock therapy for children and teens

a reply to: burntheships

And it says for children with severe or life threatening symptoms...

As in, last resort, not for regular treatments.

Vastly different to what the OP would have us believe.

Its a concerted stragegy to absolutely liquify the brains of the next generation of children. They push aderol, then anti-psychotics that make you psychotic, they push transgenderism,to,children who havent hit puberty. They are scrambling everyones heads into a mush that cant do anything but what rhey are told. Lets just add electroshock therapy to the mix. See how many crazed mass murderers and masachostic victim ideologues we can create.

This really is the end of western civilization. Ita begun.

a reply to: Chadwickus

To quote the paper it says

and for MDE associated with major depressive
disorder or bipolar disorder

and for MDE associated with major depressive
disorder or bipolar disorder
psychiatry.org...

MDE is a major depressive episode.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Perhaps you haven't worked or studied in the field.

Treatments for exceptions or rare cases can far too easily and far too quickly become routinely administered to many unfitting patients/victims--all the more so if the staff are tired, exhausted and the patients very troublesome.

I'm mystified that this appears to be difficult to understand.

a reply to: BO XIAN

For individuals under the age of 18, the APA suggests additional special controls that would support a change to a class II designation. Before proceeding with ECT, the APA recommends that the child or adolescent be evaluated by two independent psychiatrists with experience in treating youth of that age range as well as by the psychiatrist who will be performing ECT. The purpose of these evaluations is to determine whether the child or adolescent has a diagnosis for which ECT is clinically indicated and whether additional trials of pharmacotherapy are indicated prior to initiating ECT as well as to determine the benefits and risks of ECT for the individual relative to other treatment options based upon the clinical circumstances.

I'm mystified that for someone who claims to be so switched on, they severely lack reading comprehension.

a reply to: Chadwickus

There's no lack of reading comprehension.

There's a lot of comprehension of how things tend to go in the real world that trumps all the prissy regulations that bureaucrats pretend will solve problems.

When it comes to electro therapy it is not as as easy 20k volts at .03mA for 3 seconds fixes all neurological problems. For a lot of people it makes more problems, for some people with a skilled therapist there are some benefits. Each case needs to be based on its own merits. To have such options available to those that seek it is better than no option at all.

To have such therapy forced upon those who do not request or require such treatment is a crime.

I'm schizoaffective....when I was first admitted to an inpatient facility, they wanted to use ECT on me to try and "shock" me out of a catatonic state I was going through. My primary physician forbade it, and through her intervention, they allowed me to go through my mental withdrawal naturally and in my own time. I'm eternally grateful for that because unlike some others in a serious state of withdrawal, I was highly aware of the external world, I just flat out was preoccupied with internal matters at the time that needed resolution.

Now mind you, this was in the mid-90's and all we knew of Shock Treatment was the terrible stories from the past. I was misinformed, but still, I didn't need the treatment. My mind was going through what it needed to in order to realign itself with consensual reality. I wish more doctors understood this. And many do, but the public is routinely misinformed as to what actually happens in inpatient centers of that caliber. It's not American Horror Story for the majority.

The facility did use biofeedback after I came out of my initial catatonia, and it wasn't as bad as you would think.

From what I understand, modern ECT (Electro-Convulsive Therapy) is not as severe as the shock torture they used to administer before such practice was outlawed. These days it is much more mild and temperate, low level administrations over a period of several weeks and months, with extremely low voltage in a pulsation that is gentle enough to not terrify the patient or cause any overt pain.

Long story short, they aren't just walking over to the brain and trying to jump start it like a car anymore.

Just sayin', Natural News is being hyperbolic on this one....But then again, that seems to be all they ever do when it comes to these types of matters.

Sheesh.
And I'm a freakin' Naturalist myself.
Just absurdity from these folks sometimes.

It's not the only viable treatment out there....there are several types, and Modern Low Level ECT may work for some patients and not for others.

It's not always an across the board treatment option, and the patient and family always has a say beforehand.

Shame on Natural News for scaring people in believing a horror story again.
Shame shame shame.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I know people with depression and ECT helped them.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Building a sustainable world for humans to live in, has its prize.
For me to even make it out of the maze, was a miracle.. Would shock therapy had helped? I believe it would, the only thing that made me come back to reality before was a severe migraine..

To explain how i made it out of the maze? I do not know, i had mentors that guided me. Without them i would probably be trapped..

I am gonna go with the MD.. Cause i tell you why in a sentence and its better not to let people understand the transparent truth about what we actually are.. The world we live in is a magical one, the real world only leaves those strong enough..

Society must protect its citizens, whatever the cost.. I made it out, but i can promise for each one that makes it out, a hundred is trapped in hell..

COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY has been proven in repeated research studies to OUTPERFORM meds--and all other treatments hands down:
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A) No side effects
B) Lifetime effectiveness
C) More effective than meds.
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Trouble is, it requires a skilled therapist to lead the person by the hand through all the HARD WORK.

We are just humans..

ECT I believe is nothing more than a modern way of beating up someone trying to change their behavior. At some level the brain chooses not to display certain expressions because it wants to avoid getting beat up. No sophisticated devices, magic, kickstarting the brain, or scrambling out the bad thoughts. But at least we've moved beyond lobotomies. Many medications may or may not produce side effects as well.

a reply to: johnnyjoe1979

No. ECT is more like jump starting a car with low battery.

a reply to: Peeple

Elaborate please.. Cause i see it like the post above;" you are beating the s*** out of someone.."

as long they yuse `green`current there will be no problem frying the brains of oure children...lolllllll

a reply to: PanPiper

You stimulate areas of the brain, you don't fry it with high voltage.
ECT

I know that some people call bondage stimulation

While others think bondage is painful.. Apples and oranges

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: BO XIAN

For individuals under the age of 18, the APA suggests additional special controls that would support a change to a class II designation. Before proceeding with ECT, the APA recommends that the child or adolescent be evaluated by two independent psychiatrists with experience in treating youth of that age range as well as by the psychiatrist who will be performing ECT. The purpose of these evaluations is to determine whether the child or adolescent has a diagnosis for which ECT is clinically indicated and whether additional trials of pharmacotherapy are indicated prior to initiating ECT as well as to determine the benefits and risks of ECT for the individual relative to other treatment options based upon the clinical circumstances.

I'm mystified that for someone who claims to be so switched on, they severely lack reading comprehension.

That is true.
The OP is more concerned about the quantity of threads that can be created in each 24 hour period, rather than the quality.

this is sick, ive seen the damage of ECT first hand, shocking the brain into siezure will not help people long.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: BO XIAN

I know people with depression and ECT helped them.

At what lingering costs?

And what percentage of such folks would say the help was greater than the cost?

a reply to: Iamnotadoctor

You might try for a refund on your mind-reading course.