Transgenderism and why America is slowly falling apart

a reply to: Moonshinne

How were transgendered people using the bathroom last week?

This is a contrived issue, to be honest. The White House and a few states are creating all this drama where none needs to be had.

We've had transgendered people in the schools for quite some time, and they have been changing and using the restrooms without a shred of drama.

Rape, molestation, peeping toms, perversions assort, are all and have already been illegal.

We don't need more laws. We don't need more intrusion into peoples lives.

OP? You're a gun owner and probably get upset when leftists start trying to take guns away because of a nutjob.

Why would you want to impose strict and imposing laws on innocent transgendered people who have never done anything wrong and just want to live their lives?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: humanityrising
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If this subject is even on your radar, you need to start asking yourself some existential questions.

Oh I see... Let's try this with an analogy.

So, if let's say the government suddenly mandated all Hindus to stop viewing cows as being sacred, and the government mandates them to simply accept the new government mandated version that cows are not sacred It shouldn't cross the mind of Hindus that the government is simply attacking their religion?...

:facepalm:

There are more important things at hand. Things that affect you much more directly. People's preoccupation with this is unjustified, and shallow. The media is yanking your chain.

You're not being persecuted. No matter what your religion, there will be laws in place that spit on it. I'm done here so don't bother, enjoy your cesspool. Keep fighting the good fight.

I thought it was obvious that when the Government yells' 'War On 'put whatever you wish here'.

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I admit it, freddy has always been my weakness. But, i believe he'd be disappointed with the way the world has fallen into the dust of prejudice. He did not for one moment fight to be treated with any kind of special treatment. He just was. And that's why i love him and his music. He didn't try to force anything on anyone, he just wanted to make people smile.
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a reply to: Moonshinne

Welcome to ATS, Moonshinne. You must be new to the conspiracy world.

I haven't finished reading all the posts on this thread, but I haven't seen one response yet that shows any understanding of what's really going on. Some have recognized that the "Bathroom Wars" are being used as a distraction from more important things, but that's hardly the whole of it. The real purpose is very sinister in its end-goal.

Personally, I don't care about transgenders or homosexuals one way or another. I'm NOT Christian. I do NOT belong to any organized religion, although I DO believe in God.

The Far Left HATES White Christians & their traditional morals/values. The Evangelicals (Fundamentalist Christians) are the largest group in the US aware of what Islam really is: Islam is " a violent totalitarian political system disguised as a religion." The Far Left and Radical Islam are allied the world over. For the Far Left, White Christians in America are marked for destruction.

I could do a whole thread on the real purpose behind the "Bathroom Wars."

a reply to: AuranVector

Nice write up, thankyou for that. You opened up something few people on the far left /right think about. You aren't religious, you don't believe in god and you are aware of the far lefts hate for Christians and white people. I agree with you, Islam is violent, not all people 'in' Islam are but if they were called to 'arms' they would do it in a heart beat, they would defy their Gov't their Friends their Family and their Country to appease their false God allah.

I would never bow down to 'ANY' God that demanded the things that our current religions demand. I would never kill or destroy anyone based on their beliefs, and to me, all killing of human beings is evil.

So, Thankyou for that

YouTube search: brave new world. That's were things are likely going

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
The "Traditional" family and heterosexuality is waning. I supported gay marriage and I always will. BUT Heterosexual Men, have been beaten down consistently as clowns, rapists, feeble idiots. And the "Progressives" seem to do all they can to deteriorate the BOND between Men and Women. A bond that I once knew and felt, which is fading fast. Women are not what they were just a couple decades ago. Something is off, I don't know what it is.

"Progressivism" has turned how we relate to each other into something that feels sterile. It's not even SEXUAL anymore. It's cold, indifferent, lacking intimacy, and of convenience or habit.

I don't think this bathroom stuff will have any effect in either direction on that. But the CONVERSATION and hype over it is sending a signal I don't like and isn't bringing the BOND Men and Women had, back

Just my two cents.

"Something is off, I don't know what it is."

At least you're sensitive enough to pick up on that.

The destruction of men & women (not just the bond between men & women) is INTENTIONAL. Don't call the members of our current Democratic Party "Progressives" -- they aren't -- even if they like to call themselves that to hide what they really are. The Far Left infiltrated and hijacked the Democratic Party a long time ago. They're just being more obvious now.

By the time the moderate Dumocrats realize what they have aided & abetted into existence it will be way too late.

a reply to: AuranVector more safe spaces for white people, so they can pee in safety away from the far left and trans people, the right cubicle with a wall surrounding it, should make that trip to the toilet a little more comfortable

originally posted by: lavatrance
YouTube search: brave new world. That's were things are likely going

Bingo.

a reply to: AuranVector yeah use YouTube, reading the book probably requires too much concentration Boring

originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: queenofswords

You have this issue backwards. Transgender people look like the opposite sex. The law you support would actually promote people who look like men walking into the women's restroom.

You're not getting it. This law would allow ANY man (he does NOT have to be dressed as a woman) to enter the Women's restroom, locker room, showers. If stopped all he has to say is that he "self-identifies as a female."

And they're starting this in the elementary schools.

In California, they're forcing female inmates of State-run rehab facilities to take male roommates if they "self-identify as female." He does NOT have to dress as a woman or show any proof of transgenderism.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: darkbake
For someone who likes freedom, are you sure you aren't on the wrong side of the bathroom issue? You should be supporting a transgender person's right to use the restroom of their choice. And for someone who loves others, why are you so against transgenders? They are people too.

Hmmm, interesting...."Rights"

What about the RIGHTS of the women/girls/females that are IN the bathrooms and showers?

Remember them? 50% of the planet....roughly?

Females are probably more than 50% of the planet, but what does that matter when 00.3% (1/3 of 1%) of the population have their feelings hurt by not being able to use the showers of their choice....

What really matters is that the Far Left agenda for destroying natural gender identity not be stopped. (sarcasm)

Is there any other nation on the planet that is falling apart from transgendered. If not,the problem probably lies else where. Geez. What about Thailand not falling apart but has many transgendered individuals, living happily alongside American ex pats

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Shamrock6

You're naive.

Hide and watch! We are going to have a sudden "rash" of boys "identifying" as females in jr. high and high school...LOL...it's just a matter of time till some of the more rascally ones try it so they can shower with the girls.

Or go in the locker room with their hidden cameras and post the pics online. Beauty contest.

Wow you're mean. What would trans people take from you?? It's not that different from depression or anxiety or post traumatic.

It's just really mean to single these people out because what's troubling THEM makes YOU uncomfortable even when it costs you nothing.

People have gotten uncomfortable with veterans before too, you want that again?

Why can't you just chill out? These trans people are serious. Unles you can look at me in the eye and say "I could decide to be transgender and mean it", you have to accept that people who are trans gender mean it, and they're thinking in a totally different way than you.

There's billions of people on the earth. You're .0000000001 of the people on earth. THere's a lot of thoughs and ideas that you just dont have and never will. But that doesn't make them not count.

Until the day that trans people really rip your heart out, what do you even care?

originally posted by: KesleyJ

The "Traditional" family and heterosexuality is waning. I supported gay marriage and I always will. BUT Heterosexual Men, have been beaten down consistently as clowns, rapists, feeble idiots. And the "Progressives" seem to do all they can to deteriorate the BOND between Men and Women. A bond that I once knew and felt, which is fading fast. Women are not what they were just a couple decades ago. Something is off, I don't know what it is.

"Progressivism" has turned how we relate to each other into something that feels sterile. It's not even SEXUAL anymore. It's cold, indifferent, lacking intimacy, and of convenience or habit.

I don't think this bathroom stuff will have any effect in either direction on that. But the CONVERSATION and hype over it is sending a signal I don't like and isn't bringing the BOND Men and Women had, back

Just my two cents.

Nonsense.

The problem that we face is that men are no longer men.

A man does not care what someone else thinks and does the right thing, regardless of the situation and a real man does not put themselves in a position to blame others for their own inadequacies.

A man does not let "progressives" define their relationship with women.

Women haven't changed. They are still the same amazing creatures they have always been. The problem is that men have become compliant little bitches and forgot that sometimes, no matter what, you gotta be a man.

What???

How are men supposed to know who they are when society has blurred gender roles. What is a man???? Who defines that? Schools now are telling children they can choose their gender. Talk about manufacturing confusion. Men have been chastised as being too manly, too arrogant.

If you truly understood what he is saying, you would agree. You say men are bitches, well that is pretty much what he said. Men have followed society's dictates and have become metrosexual, hair gelling, eye-liner wearing, screw anything, no scruples having hot messes. To the detriment of the family unit, the marriage, the children, the community, etc.

And no women are not what they were, Not in the least. I see women with more tattoos and piercings than men. I'm not against tattoos, but I'm against the general increase in the manliness in many women. It's like both sexes are moving away from the poles and merging into some kind of androgynous creature. The culture has completely changed.

People think America's culture is a given and that changing it won't have an effect. Culture changes destinies. Just look around the world to see how culture has shaped societies and people.

The destruction of gender by the Far Left is INTENTIONAL, not only as psychological warfare, but to help shape the NWO slave -- a gender-fluid creature with NO moral boundaries, no family (raised by the State/Corporation). no national loyalties, no ethnic identity. Welcome to the New World Order.

Some of the Left-wing Pod People think the NWO is a good thing, but they are incapable of independent thought or critical thinking. They merely parrot whatever they've been programmed to parrot.

originally posted by: ketsuko

Gender is in the brain. The brain tells you who you are.

See? Here's the problem...

But under the new guidelines, created solely to "solve" a problem no one created, one of the first two gentlemen can simply declare that his brain is telling him he's a lady. Who can say whether or not he's telling the truth about it? Can you? Do you read minds? I sure don't. So there is no way anyone can tell him no because no one knows for sure if he is being sincere in his declaration or not. Maybe he is. Maybe he always has been a lady deep down inside, but maybe he's not. Maybe he's simply taking advantage of the fact that no one can question him now in order to gain access to the women's locker room because he's a stalker and his quarry is in there.

And the only way anyone will ever know the difference is when it's too late, and THAT is the problem.

The whole standard is 100% arbitrary and subjective.

Exactly.

originally posted by: MysticPearl
I thought what Gavin Mcinnes said on the topic was both funny and correct.

"Transgender isn't a thing. You can't go out and become a bat or go out and become a giraffe. It's not something you can go buy off a shelf."

What you can do is alter yourself biologically to an extent but mother nature always wins and mother nature decided whether you were going to be a male or female. There's no changing that. Essentially, there's far more what makes a male biologically than whether you remove the penis and get breast implants. It goes down to DNA and chromosomes.

It's basically window dressing.

And the thing that makes me laugh about Bruce/Caitlin Jenner is that under that skirt he's swinging a full package.
I mean he has not had the whole "snip & tuck" thing done. It's just cosmetic surgery & some hormone shots to "feminize" his appearance -- window dressing is right.

a reply to: Moonshinne

Unfortunately, all of your sources used to support your ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded views (and yes, that's what they are, and yes, they are intrinsically linked to your religiously-led hatred of others) are entirely debunked as being the usual right-wing propaganda.

1. The law in NC removed the rights of ALL LGBT people in the state, it didn't just restrict bathrooms. If this were REALLY about Transgender people using bathrooms, why the hell would they feel the need to use the opportunity to revoke the rights of all LGBT people?

2. The law, if it were enforced, would mean that PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE MEN would be using womens facilities, and PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE WOMEN would be using the mens. This is what that law dictates, but you people are too mentally deranged to be able to understand this obvious little fact. Transgender people look like the gender they are living as, so forcing people to use the facilities WHICH DON'T ALIGN WITH THEIR APPEARANCE makes this law totally and utterly moronic, just like those who support it.

3. You are not any better than anyone else, you are no more worthy of rights than anyone else, you are no more deserving of any special treatment than anyone else. What part of your brain makes you think that you are somehow superior to others or deserve the right to dictate how others can live their lives? What part of your brain gives you the impression that your status in society grants you special powers to tell other free Americans how they should live? This is the crux of the problem, Conservatives (and especially Christians) are more interested in placing themselves above other people in society and dictating to the rest of the population who they should love, what they should do with their genitals, how they should look, how they should act, who they should vote for... you're all little despots marching around claiming the country is yours and yours alone and anyone who doesn't suit your narrow little views of what a person should be or should believe or should do deserves to be treated as a second class citizen.

4. There has been NO INSTANCE of any Transgender person ever assaulting, attacking or even threatening anyone in any public facility as you would like to pretend, not one single case has been found out there of this happening, ever, across your entire country. There has, however, been numerous arrests of REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS for committing sexual crimes in public facilities. So, of you REALLY were scared for your kids in the way you say you are, you would be pushing for this law to be targeting Republican politicians rather than transgender people, because they are statistically more of a threat to your family than any transgender person.

As usual, your long post is full of nothing but the usual right-wing ignorance and paranoia on this issue, and those who agree with you are spouting the usual ignorant bullsh*t in response too, while ignoring all the problems with this law entirely and while ignoring the fact that it doesn't JUST attack Transgender people.

Whether you like it or not, the country has evolved past this disgusting Christian-led hate, the young are rejecting Christianity and Conservative politics all over your country, the government is forcing this issue and doing the right thing over this. States enacting these laws will be boycotted, they're losing billions of $'s of income, young families are leaving these backward states, students are leaving for modern lives in states not run by backward Christian fanatics.

You've already lost, the country has evolved without you. If you want to live in a backward little sh*t hole controlled by conservative Christian fanatics dictating to society then I suggest you move to Uganda.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Is there any other nation on the planet that is falling apart from transgendered. If not,the problem probably lies else where. Geez. What about Thailand not falling apart but has many transgendered individuals, living happily alongside American ex pats

Didn't you know? Gawd caused 9/11 because of transgender people using bathrooms:

Pastor Anne Graham: God let 9/11 happen because of transgender people in bathrooms

And in related news:

It’s been scientifically proven that Republicans are more susceptible to bullsh*it