Liberals Attack Trump Supporter in a wheechair.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Show proof... Stop making claims and show proof...

I have shown you proof. It's not my problem if you're too obtuse to see it or refuse to acknowledge it.

Right-wing groups do not go around with ads/slogans saying "no racism, no fascism, no Trump", because it is left-wing groups who do this...

You, on the other hand, have provided absolutely no proof of your claims, whatsoever. Saying the same thing, over and over, doesn't make it true.

I've provided you with citation of prominent Republican leaders calling Trump fascist and racist and stating that they are willing to do "whatever it takes" to stop Trump.

I don't know what else you want. It seems to me that you're verbally harassing me much like the people in your video. How do you know I'm not typing this from my wheel chair?

originally posted by: windword
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I have shown you proof. It's not my problem if you're too obtuse to see it or refuse to acknowledge it.
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Show the pictures... If what you claim is true there should be pictures of such Republicans and conservatives holding those signs shown in the video...

Otherwise you are blowing hot air, and nothing more...

That link you showed from "thinkprogress" is just another example of the generalization and lies used by the mass left-wing media... Trump made a comment about one man... Yet "thinkprogress" proclaims Trump is attacking the religious right...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Show the pictures... If what you claim is true there should be pictures of such Republicans and conservatives holding those signs shown in the video... Otherwise you are blowing hot air, and nothing more...

No, you're the one blowing "hot air". There is nothing in your video, your "pictures", that proves that those anti-Trump protesters are Bernie supporters or even Democrats! NOTHING! Just because you say that those are "socialists" doesn't make it true.

You have zero evidence! Just a lot of bloviating hot air!

I showed you "pictures" of what some leading conservative Republicans had to say, calling Trump a Fascist and a racist.

a reply to: windword

Look, I can easily prove that people in the left demonstrate with these ads/slogans of "no racism, no facism, no Trump"...


desertpeace.files.wordpress.com...

If you look at the photo in the link provided above you can read that right below the slogan "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" it says "international action center iacenter.org".

If you go to that website you can see that it is a very leftist website, either socialist or communist.

iacenter.org...

See how easy it was for me to prove that slogan shown in the video is from a very leftist group?...

Now, if you want to be taken seriously post proof of a slogan that shows Republicans using this slogan of "no racism, no fascism, no Trump"...

edit on 10-5-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I don't see the promotion of violence on their website at all. Are you saying that anti-Trump people don't have the right to protest what they honestly think IS fascism and racism.

Looks like those peaceful protesters in the picture agree with all those right wing neocon Christian conservatives that also think that Trump is a fascist and a racist! These are not the same people in your OP wheel chair video. You're being intellectually dishonest.

This is the poster for the peaceful rally that you're showing.



There's no specific affiliation. Everyone is welcome.

These are some of the peaceful people who showed up to the rally, that isn't the same group of people or "rally" as your wheel chair OP video.

I sense a deliberate attempt by Trump supporters to make themselves into victims as of late.

I mean, if they're such a loving and peaceful bunch of wonderful people -- the narrative of their leader certainly doesn't match.

I sense there is a lot of animosity against Sanders people, and this is some kind of coordinated deflection and victimization campaign to do 2 things:

1. Trash Sanders

2. Garner sympathy for Trump people

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Here'a political button created by the "Never Trump" Republicans, and tweeted just 4 hours ago, by Rick Wilson, a top GOP consultant.

Rick Wilson
#CruzFiorina2016 ‏@RadicalRW 4h
4 hours ago
@TheRickWilson @drawandstrike @heatstreet

twitter.com...

Notice how it's the same picture from the rally that you posted above?

PROOF! Republicans are Trumps worst enemies right now!

originally posted by: windword

I don't see the promotion of violence on their website at all. Are you saying that anti-Trump people don't have the right to protest what they honestly think IS fascism and racism.

It is more and more obvious you are twisting what I have written and what the evidence shows... I never wrote they are promoting violence in that website, even though they are revolutionaries and even show photos of Cuban rallies enforced by the Cuban dictatorship as if the people were the ones doing those rallies on their own free will... Read again what I posted... It is a very left-wing website, probably socialist, or marxist website, and they have a sign similar to one of the signs seen in the video this thread is about.

I am only using paint to post this, but around 17 seconds in the video you can see this sign...



Which is a sign with the same type of slogan as this one...



My point is signs like those which proclaim "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" are coming from the leftwing protesters...

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Here'a political button created by the "Never Trump" Republicans, and tweeted just 4 hours ago, by Rick Wilson, a top GOP consultant.

Rick Wilson
#CruzFiorina2016 ‏@RadicalRW 4h
4 hours ago
@TheRickWilson @drawandstrike @heatstreet

twitter.com...

Notice how it's the same picture from the rally that you posted above?

PROOF! Republicans are Trumps worst enemies right now!

Right... that sign above has the same type of slogan as this other sign seen in the video... Or so you seem to want to claim huh?...



It is obvious you are only twisting my comments, and twisting the facts...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

My point is signs like those which proclaim "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" are coming from the left wing protesters...

It's becoming more and more clear that your right wing bias and your hate for progressive, liberal Democrats is causing some sort of mental illness, in which you're unable to make rational observations.

Trump earned his fascist and racist reputation all by himself. It belongs neither to the left nor the right. The "Stop Trump", "Never Trump" movements are right wing movements that are sharing slogans, imagery, protest venues and rhetoric with left wingers of the same sentiment, for the same goal; NO PRESIDENT TRUMP! "Whatever it takes."

I wish we could see what happened just before the wheel chair guy started (strategically) filming. I highly doubt that a wheel chair clad with Trump stickers and an disabled man simply wearing a pro Trump button, minding his own business, is what caused the few seconds of outrage that we saw in that video. When anti-Trump protester inside Trump rallies were getting "smacked down" we, the viewers, could see what led up to the people getting cold cocked and/or escorted out. We can't see JACK from your video. You're expecting us to accept your version of the violent tendency of left wingers without argument. when we've all seen physical violence break out from the right.

a reply to: windword

Stop throwing insults, because that seems to be all you can do, and SHOW PROOF, otherwise you are doing nothing at all but making false claims...

Do you understand what proof is?... You claimed that Republicans who want to stop Trump would use these signs. Show photos of those signs from Republicans just like those in the video, otherwise you have no proof at all except hot air, lies and exaggerations on your part...

Did I write anywhere that all left-wing protests turn violent?... NO, you claimed I wrote this when I didn't... However, you also seem to ignore the fact that there have been left-wing protests which did turn violent, even against minorities who support Trump.

When asked for proof, you show a button which does not say the same type of message as those found in the video, and you proclaim that is proof, when it isn't. Republicans would not use that type of sign because the left groups are the ones using them.

BTW, the other sign seems to be of someone with an afro, and it isn't a sign of Trump either. The hair in that other sign is black, although it can't be seen that well...

I also never wrote that no right-wing protests has ever turned violent... This is another false claim you are making about me...

You have to learn to read what people write, and understand what they are saying instead of making false accusations and claiming things which are not true...

The ones that have been making false claims are ATS members like yourself. I have even excerpted one of your threads which shows this clearly. How you have used a few examples of what some conservatives, or Republicans do, and proclaim all in the right are the same... My argument has been, if this argument of yours, and other ATS members leaning to the left is true, then the same thing can be said of the left...

I made an argument based off the logic being used by a percentage of ATS members who lean to the left in politics.

Now, one more time, unless you can show proof that Republicans are using that same type of slogan of "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" the only proof shows that only the left uses this type of slogan in their street protests.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Stop throwing insults, because that seems to be all you can do,

LOL, you can dish it out, but you can't take it, eh? LOL

SHOW PROOF, otherwise you are doing nothing at all but making false claims...

You're like a broken record of obtuse denial, going 'round, round, Baby, 'round 'round!

Proof has been posted, multiple times.

BTW, the other sign seems to be of someone with an afro, and it isn't a sign of Trump either. The hair in that other sign is black, although it can't be seen that well...

Spin it Baby! "Round "round!

I made an argument based off the logic

No, you most certainly have not!

Now, one more time, unless you can show proof that Republicans are using that same type of slogan of "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" the only proof shows that only the left uses this type of slogan in their street protests.

And, one more time......

Trump earned his fascist and racist reputation all by himself. It belongs neither to the left nor the right. The "Stop Trump", "Never Trump" movements are right wing movements that are sharing slogans, imagery, protest venues and rhetoric with left wingers of the same sentiment, for the same goal; NO PRESIDENT TRUMP! "Whatever it takes."

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I sense a deliberate attempt by Trump supporters to make themselves into victims as of late.

Last I checked it isn't neither Trump supporters nor any other conservatives that are seeking "psychiatric help" whenever they see the name of an opposing candidate.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I mean, if they're such a loving and peaceful bunch of wonderful people -- the narrative of their leader certainly doesn't match.

You mean the narrative that points out that illegal immigration is increasing the crime and drugs entering the United States?...

It's not like some people seem to want to put their heads under the sand when facts are shown to them.

Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data

According DHS status indicators, over 190,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and April 30, 2016. During their criminal careers, these criminal aliens were charged with more than 507,000 criminal offenses. Those arrests include 1,011 homicide charges; 60,088 assault charges; 14,958 burglary charges; 59,756 drug charges; 609 kidnapping charges; 36,780 theft charges; 39,951 obstructing police charges; 3,367 robbery charges; 5,289 sexual assault charges; and 7,595 weapons charges. Of the total criminal aliens arrested in that timeframe, over 126,000 or 66% were identified by DHS status as being in the US illegally at the time of their last arrest.
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www.txdps.state.tx.us...

Of course, anyone who dares post these facts, or even how many Americans and other legal residents have been murdered, even with guns, by illegal criminals, these people are immediately labeled "racist, fascists, etc". Even if those people pointing this out are part of minorities.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I sense there is a lot of animosity against Sanders people, and this is some kind of coordinated deflection and victimization campaign to do 2 things:

1. Trash Sanders

2. Garner sympathy for Trump people

You sense? So, your senses are proof of something you can't even prove?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: windword

I don't see the promotion of violence on their website at all. Are you saying that anti-Trump people don't have the right to protest what they honestly think IS fascism and racism.

It is more and more obvious you are twisting what I have written and what the evidence shows... I never wrote they are promoting violence in that website, even though they are revolutionaries and even show photos of Cuban rallies enforced by the Cuban dictatorship as if the people were the ones doing those rallies on their own free will... Read again what I posted... It is a very left-wing website, probably socialist, or marxist website, and they have a sign similar to one of the signs seen in the video this thread is about.

I am only using paint to post this, but around 17 seconds in the video you can see this sign...

Which is a sign with the same type of slogan as this one...

My point is signs like those which proclaim "no racism, no fascism, no Trump" are coming from the leftwing protesters...

Normally you would be right to assume "no racism" type signs were almost always held by liberals. However the trump stuff is different. Not because he is magically the most racist candidate in history, but because those are the same lines being used by the never trump republicans.

Paul Ryan, mitt Romney, Glen beck, gram, McCain and countless others have attacked trump from that angle.

Just for context,I don't think trump is more racist than anyone else. I think he is just playing to win and chose to use Fox News type propaganda to his advantage.

His "swing to the center" will be the biggest in history...so much so he ends up attacking Hillary from the left on every subject not wall related.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

That said no matter what political side the protesters originated, this is a non story..

This just in:
"Omg people at a rally were yelling at each other!!"

Another top story:
" water is wet!"

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Again, it doesn't matter what the elites, and their cheerleaders are claiming... Show proof, as in photos of Republicans who have used this slogan of "no racism, no fascism, no Trump"... It's that simple... PROOF, not claims, and rhetoric both sides of the political elite claim.

I very easily showed that those type of signs come from very left-wing sources. Signs that say "no racism, no fascism, no Trump"...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I very easily showed that those type of signs come from very left-wing sources. Signs that say "no racism, no fascism, no Trump"...

This is where you're delusional. You have not shown anything of the kind.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
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I sense there is a lot of animosity against Sanders people, and this is some kind of coordinated deflection and victimization campaign to do 2 things:

1. Trash Sanders

2. Garner sympathy for Trump people

You know what is quite ironic?...

The left that support Sanders and Clinton in general, yes in general, they claim that "Trump is a racist" even though his comments have been about illegal immigration and the open policy that is allowing more and more criminals from the south into the United States...He has also stated that the refugee crises has to be stopped from coming into the U.S. until we can figure a better way to separate the real refugees of war, from all other economic refugees which radicals are using to infiltrate Europe and want to infiltrate the United States. Yet, for saying this the left, in general, proclaim that Trump is attacking all immigrants and must be a racist...

If anyone is racist it seems to be the left who believe that when someone talks about illegal immigration and the increased crime (drugs and violent crime) that is being introduced together with illegal immigration that people like Trump must be talking about all immigrants... Either that or of course it is simply false rhetoric to try to stop a candidate the left doesn't want to be elected...

But let's get to Sanders... Sanders, a candidate that would be worse than Clinton, if that were possible, because he is even more un-American that Clinton's policies. Sanders is a candidate that wants introduced into the United States more un-American laws/policies that will completely erase the Republic of the United States.

Sanders is a "social democrat", and as such...

Social democracy, political ideology that advocates a peaceful, evolutionary transition of society from capitalism to socialism using established political processes. Based on 19th-century socialism and the tenets of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, social democracy shares common ideological roots with communism but eschews its militancy and totalitarianism. Social democracy was originally known as revisionism because it represented a change in basic Marxist doctrine, primarily in the former’s repudiation of the use of revolution to establish a socialist society.
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www.britannica.com...

In other words, social democracy and what Sanders is, is a "reformed Marxist"... The type of "reformed Marxist" who implements what Chavez implemented in Venezuela.

I mean seriously, are you that blind that you can't see what is happening to Venezuela?... The latest example of "socialism of the 21st century" being implemented...

But of course, those who keep supporting Sanders either don't want to see what he truly is, or they know and it's what they want.

You don't want to even accept what Sanders himself has been caught saying, such as him wanting to control the Federal Reserve, which shouldn't exist in the first place. Sanders wants to control all businesses by regulating them even more than they already are, and among other things he "doesn't want anyone to have guns"...