The Prescription Drug Epidemic is Deliberate..

a reply to: Asktheanimals

I didn't trust the mirror, I put my faith in that god has a reason for everything, and it's not possible for anyone to tell me different because I lived it. Oh and 20 years ago they prescribed Vicodin for everything.

I was in a plane crash.
Everybody lived, but everybody was hurt.
Long story short, I was prescribed oxy to deal with the very real pain.
And it helped.
Then the pain went away, but I still wanted the pills.
The pills made me feel good.

I didn't read all pages, but did someone not point out the 1892 should be 1992? Might want to edit that type.

My thoughts? An addict is an addict. I'm not going to blame the pushers, I'm going to blame the individual for allowing their selves to stay addicted.

I don't know to what extent there is a conspiracy to get people high on legal heroine outside of raw profit motive, but yea... if it's about monies, then it's no different from the cartels controlling the illegal supply. They just don't care, they want their monies by any means necessary.

I was watching Bill Maher earlier today, guy was on saying 90% of inpatients are there for the legal heroine. Pretty messed up! I think he was onto something when he summed it up saying we're a depressed people, though I would look quite a bit deeper and wonder to exactly why this has come to be. My thoughts could fill a book, but it would be one in a sea of complaints. I'd rather not.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
I didn't read all pages, but did someone not point out the 1892 should be 1992? Might want to edit that type.

Maybe nobody cares.

a reply to: c2oden

Surely you can see that I'm not trying to be a spelling Nazi, but would rather nobody be confused into thinking this has been going on for that long.

Though your reply is actually quite appropriate to the thread.

Nobody cares.... makes sense!

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: marg6043

They had commercials during the SuperBowl this year.

That tells you something.

~Tenth

True. They have all kinds of drug commercials for heartburn, erectile dysfunction, and allergies.

I cannot, however, remember ever seeing a single television advertisement for any kind of pain medication.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: marg6043

They had commercials during the SuperBowl this year.

That tells you something.

~Tenth

True. They have all kinds of drug commercials for heartburn, erectile dysfunction, and allergies.

I cannot, however, remember ever seeing a single television advertisement for any kind of pain medication.

They don't have to advertise.
Pain medication sells itself.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Some of them not generic cost insurance companies over 900.00 USD a pill... if that isnt fleecing drug companies entire everything with a rediculous amount of greed? I dunno what is... I know the focus was on oxycodone and addiction costs, but that crap is cheap per pill per insurance than some of them. Not to mention the scandal of the young fellow drug company owner finding an old pill had a indication for a new use, and marked it up a rediculous amount... and was very very smug about it, I didnt follow the story out but I did read a headline not long ago saying he finally apologized but didnt read into it.

Im very happy to say I take absolutely nothing on any regular for nearly a decade and plan on that continuance of nothing for quite some time. A headache maybe once every 3 months, lungs as healthy as an athletic 15 year old at last years physical having smoked roughly 1.5 packs a day for the last 23 years and look younger than 30 and am currently 43... I just live how I want and do what I want within legal restraint of course, without any thought of health whatsoever... for anyone curious for what my "secret" is.

Out on the rez we would often hear of pill overdoses often times children. There was a doctor by the name of Stock and word was he would stock you up lol he was busted when the feds audited and investigated the abuse and over prescription of narcotics.

It's not just prescription drugs. Anti-cholinergic drugs can easily be purchased over the counter and basically cause chemical brain damage.

Treatments for colds and flu, hay fever, allergy and heartburn tablets containing anti-cholinergic drugs had the effect for one month after treatment, a study found.
Effects associated with taking the drugs included having slower brain processing times and smaller brains overall.

Daily Mail UK
I remember taking care of a woman in the hospital who was dying from liver failure. All because she took massive amounts of Tylenol for years. Because her doctors told her it was safe. (BTW liver failure is right up there with cancer as far as horrible ways to die go)

But marijuana is illegal for our safety....rrrriiiigghhhtttt.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Keep those pain pills a comin' !! Good stuff. It raises mood AND helps people to work harder and more effectively. It's wonder pills...

We need more Dr. Feel Good's, because I think people have vilified a monster that doesn't exist. Pain medication is only a problem because it is MADE INTO ONE!!!!!!

a reply to: lovebeck

If it were my mom? I'd take her ass to rehab and call and report her DO to the DEA on the way.

I can not believe you actually said that!

So rather than trying to understand and offer your support, you'd seriously vindictively just lag your own Mother into the DEA, turn her into a criminal, destroy her life and make her situation worse than it already was?

That's just cold!

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I think you're right about this. I know too many people who have horrible problems with this drug, many of them young people, and several of them now dead from the OD.

Responsible companies would cease production of this drug. Just as Quaaludes were banned several decades ago, successfully, the same could be done with Oxy.

a reply to: tothetenthpower
Fantastic thread and right on point.
For sure 1000% correct.

When someone gets a script
or buys 10 Vicodin along with some lint from a 9th
graders pocket, that pill was made by the same drug
company. Meaning they make money one way or the other.

I believe the thinning of the heard is also done by incapacitation.
Some don't ever overdose but become walking working zombies.
I know as someone who has been to hell and back
with 2 major spinal fusion surgeries. At 32 years old I had
missed one full year of work to recover.
That was the easy part.
For 5 years I lived and breathed legal prescription pain killers
given to me by my drug dealer em..pain management Dr.
I will say I didn't abuse my prescribed opiates
nearly as much as they abused me.
I almost died.

The drug companies don't give a split about you or your pain.
They could make them better at managing pain and less addictive,
but then you wouldn't take them like an addict and that's
no good for the bottom line.

It is heroin. It's a weaker more expensive
heroin in pill form with Tylenol added to ruin your liver.

My back still hurts but I haven't
taken a painkiller in 11 years.

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

The added Tylenol is found in Percocet and in Vicodin, which have varying amounts of oxycodone or hydrocodone (5, 10 and 15 mg I believe) along with 325 mg of Tylenol. The script will read something like Percocet 10/325 telling you the amounts of each. Straight Oxycodone doesn't have the Tylenol and I take 5 - 30mg tabs daily. You would have to take 15 of the 10/325 Percocet to get the same amount of Oxycodone which means you would also be taking 4,875 mg of Tylenol - overdose and liver damaging levels.

Neither Percocet or Vicodin should ever be taken long term or prescribed for severe pain due to the chances for overdosing and liver damage. Your doctor was very irresponsible to prescribe anything with acetaminophen for your back pain.

Yes, it is like heroin and just as addictive. Some people become addicted in less than a month and will suffer severe withdrawal symptoms just like a heroin junkie would. In the end though it is the patients responsibility to manage their drugs and ensure that you don't have to go through withdrawal by either running out early or getting cut off due to breach of contract by their finding of illicit substances in your urine sample.

I had a badly ruptured disc at L4/L5 that left me unable to walk. It was only due to a steroid epidural that I was able to walk again. I was put on Percocet and stayed on it for about a year until my back issue went away finally. The withdrawal from that was the sickest I have ever been in my life - runs for 9 days straight, lost 12 lbs (I only weighed 145 to start with and no fat).

Now I'm on the harder stuff due to an inflamed spinal cord that required surgery to allow room for the swelling. It's been 8 years now and the slow decline is the hardest thing to deal with. After I recovered from the ruptured disc I began running and working out and was able to run 10 miles again. Every time I try any exercise now I only seem to injure myself further. Spinal cords are the weak link on humans and the work we do doesn't help by repetitive tasks and lifting weights far in excess of what should be picked up. I would bet half of all pain patients are there due to back issues.

Glad you've managed without pain medications for so long now but they can be very helpful if handled responsibly by both yourself and your physician.

I have a several family members hooked on prescription meds. They are in denial and believe everything the Doctors tell them. One of my family members is mentally overactive after quitting adderall. Also one of my in-laws believes that zoloft gave them Parkison's disease. But these are the same family members that down people who indulge in alcohol and mary jane; lol at least you know what your'e getting verses some crap thrown together in a pill.

I refuse to take gov't pills and I'll only take them if I have no choice and have exhausted home remedies.

a reply to: Teeky
Adderall is bad too. I am two years free of my adderall addiction!

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I have been noticing the increased propaganda lately on TV for prescribe medications, one day I counted more medication commercials than products.

I even made the comment to my husband, big pharma is dominating the media this days.

No wonder people are lining their doctors offices for the latest pill in the markets.

Pain killers and anti depressants top the charts.

Commercials aren't propaganda, they're commercials. Good grief, they aren't doing anything worse than what coke does, they are paying to advertise their product. also, anti-depressants are a god send for millions of people around the world, the boogeyman connotation they have among conspiracy ciricles is unwarranted and harmful.
Pain killers are addictive as hell and over prescribed, I won't argue with you on that.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Prescription drugs are horrible. It is insane that there is actually a job held by doctors specifically for prescribing painkillers in huge quantities, the "pain management specialist." The fact that they are allowed to market prescription drugs in any form is harmful and disgusting. Not to mention that all doctors have to "pay off" the DEA every year in order to prescribe. Putting prescription drug enforcement in the hands of an "organization" that polices for profit is heinous and disgusting.

a reply to: Aazadan

Doctors do have access to the DEA website to track what you're being prescribed & by who, & where you get them filled.
Not all doctors participate in that program, and you have to sign a release so they can check when or if they want.