On Topic: Freemasons controlls the Swedish town of Umeå

A newspaper called Västerbottenskuriren was warned by the Freemason lodge of Umeå if they were to write anything about them in their column..

Quote;

I hope you know who you are dealing with, the most unexpected things could happen with this type of attention.

So Elin Turborn of Västerbottenskuriren showed them the middle finger and posted a column about the influence they have in one town of Sweden..

The article states;

In Västerbotten Kurirens examination revealed among other things that several well-known politicians in Umeå - Anders Agren (M), Thomas Hartman (S) and Robert Winroth (MP) - participating in the ritual-ridden secret meetings Freemasons organize. According to the newspaper's sources, consisting of high-ranking freemasons politicians in Umeå, Freemasonry has become a problem because the words the members "help each other politically" and even can change a political opinion in order to benefit freemasonry itself or other Masons in the resort.

The Historian Peter Ullgren says quote;

- Freemasons are a power network where people help each other. They can also destroy the people who are outside the Freemasons. If someone does not do what they want, they can ruin his career. However, they often do so in a very refined way so that you do not really know where it comes from, says Peter Ullgren, associate professor of history at the University of Lund, who is currently working as a lecturer in history at the University of Linköping. He has conducted research on the Swedish Masonic history and has written the book Secrets brotherhood.

The powerful men met in secret rooms where the lack of transparency may conclude agreements mean many is a threat to democracy.

- Clearly a democratic problem. It's a problem when you stand so close and then to serve the common good, while perhaps a bit of a mafia-like organization, says Peter Ullgren and continues:

- It is an important arena for men, where men can hang out with other men without being said or done which goes beyond the walls.

We have a couple of freemasons in here and i would be gladly to hear their voice on the matter..

Original Article in Swedish

a reply to: PanPiper

Well, I ain't a freemason but I would rather they influnce Sweden than ISIS believers. Hopefully they may rid ISIS influence from the country and then perhaps the country populace may turn their attention to the Freo's.

Is there any reference to Freo's raping women and/or chopping heads off or mutilatimg or slaying young men recently ?

It's kinda like everyone who complains about mormons knockin on their door (I ain't a mormon either). They don't smash your door down then hack, rape and kill.

Freemasons,,, lesser of the two evils.

Kind regards as always,

Bally

Just normail BS to sell the news paper. Its like muslim religious laws been inforced in some of Englands goverment buildings, muslems beening let marry underage girls (child rape), Sweden beening the rape capatail of the world, its all BS. Just one point, I do love sarcasim.

They control the above top secret website as well..

originally posted by: Misterlondon
They control the above top secret website as well..

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a reply to: PanPiper

Your newspaper is the Swedish equivalent to the UKs daily mail. Articles designed to sell papers on and offline.

As for Freemasons controlling the town? One persons opinion doesn't equal the truth.

Everybody with a little bit of common sense knows the freemasons are bad. Maybe not the lower levels are but those with power and influence are. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts

The article is a funny read. "They are members helping one another" OMG! You mean....like a family?

It's up to the community to make such decisions but I think all politicians should be required to disclose any such relationships.

originally posted by: Annunak1
Everybody with a little bit of common sense knows the freemasons are bad. Maybe not the lower levels are but those with power and influence are. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts

Can you be more specific? My grandfather was a Freemason his whole life and a very respected member of his community. He certainly wasn't bad.

a reply to: PanPiper

Careful here....we have many Masonic forum members. Try not to act as though it doesn't matter.

We have many important and valuable members from all walks....and we all in fact....are equally important at ATS.

Just sayin'....am sure some will address your thread.

Peace

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: Annunak1
Everybody with a little bit of common sense knows the freemasons are bad. Maybe not the lower levels are but those with power and influence are. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts

Can you be more specific? My grandfather was a Freemason his whole life and a very respected member of his community. He certainly wasn't bad.

What i meant was is that the organization and the founders and top ranking members are bad (Politicians, mayors, head of police etc) Freemasonry is like Scientology. People think it's just an innocent club but it's not. That's all i'm saying.

a reply to: Annunak1

Scientology is a religion.

Freemasonry isn't.

How are they the same again?

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Annunak1

Scientology is a religion.

Freemasonry isn't.

How are they the same again?

Because they are both built upon lies and deception to gain power

I wouldn't even call Scientology a religion but a cult. Just like Freemasonry. Potato potatoe they are both corrupt and evil and the fact they both still exist is saddening and prove our governments don't give a damn about the people

originally posted by: Annunak1

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Annunak1

Scientology is a religion.

Freemasonry isn't.

How are they the same again?

Because they are both built upon lies and deception to gain power

I wouldn't even call Scientology a religion but a cult. Just like Freemasonry. Potato potatoe they are both corrupt and evil and the fact they both still exist is saddening and prove our governments don't give a damn about the people

Nope. Scientology is a religion. Go google it.

Have you ever been a Freemason or are you just basing you "knowledge" from websites that agree with your bias?

I love the smell of fresh air, and being left alone.. Thank you moderators!

a reply to: TerryDon79

The article is about, "using your influence to destroy others for your own agenda.."

We are having a spring cleaning in Sweden at the moment.. Be sure to check it out!

Lots of politicians getting sacked.. You know In Scandinavia we do stuff the old fashion way.. The mob always rules!

a reply to: PanPiper

You're having a spring cleaning and your biggest worry is masons and politicians??

How about rape and Muslims? Oh wait. You only hate Freemasons.

a reply to: TerryDon79

No my biggest worries are ideals in the real world.. There is always a fix to a problem,

a reply to: Annunak1

You replied: "People think it's just an innocent club but it's not. That's all i'm saying."...this too is insulting those those ats member-masons and a lot of families of masons.

And you are wrong. And disrespectful. Opinions welcome, but tact and consideration are important to. Especially to a club whose members are equal to you, and will possibly vehemently take offense at that statement.

*My family is buried in an all Masonic cemetery, and were wonderful, innocent and helpful community members while alive.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Annunak1

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Annunak1

Scientology is a religion.

Freemasonry isn't.

How are they the same again?

Because they are both built upon lies and deception to gain power

I wouldn't even call Scientology a religion but a cult. Just like Freemasonry. Potato potatoe they are both corrupt and evil and the fact they both still exist is saddening and prove our governments don't give a damn about the people

Nope. Scientology is a religion. Go google it.

Have you ever been a Freemason or are you just basing you "knowledge" from websites that agree with your bias?

They can call it what they want. The founders of Scientology know their organization is one big scam to stop paying taxes and brainwash people to believe in a lie that they made up and get rich in the progress. Hmm i think i just described all major "religions" and i'm basing my opininion about Freemasonry with what i read and hear in my life. Enough evidence for me to base my opininion. The fact that most corrupt world leaders and man in high positions are freemasons are proof enough that it's an evil and corrupt orginazation