Trumps Nod shows majority of Americans have no understanding of politics

I used to think the electoral college was insulting, condescending, antiquated and needed to be done away with

and then drumpf declared for president, lol

a reply to: syrinx high priest

You know ... whenever someone complains about it, I've made that same comment. You won't care about it until you see a situation where you think it might work to your advantage.

All these smarter than thou on this thread telling me and the ones that voted for Trump that we are stupid, ignorant, etc. but they can't tell us why except that we are stupid, ignorant, etc.

Well, I have a solution for your problem:


EXLAX!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: hubrisinxs

Let's be plain. All of your arguments could be made about Obama.

Remember Obama Cash? And he won the popular vote too, so why wasn't that a tyranny of some kind born out of a populist movement, especially the first time?

When your side wins it's never a tyranny of the masses, it's the "will of the people" and a mandate.

a reply to: schuyler

Great post, sums it all up. People who don't agree with me must be unenlightened, therefore their views are meaningless.

It would be funny to see Democrats who are now complaining about obstructionist Republicans , turn around and do the same thing in a Trump Administration. But then it will be a righteous thing to do. Both parties sicken me.

99% of people do not understand the policies or the political process. That's just how it is and it has not changed during this cycle. It's not the Trump nod that has confirmed this.

Frankly, if people DID understand politics then the current establishment would have been over thrown years ago and a man like Trump would have been president by now.

There is no secret here. The country is in a mess and is being exploited by the few. Whenever that happens a democracy of any kind will eventually oust those responsible. The only strange thing is that it has taken so long and that the American people have tolerated so much.

originally posted by: NightFlight
All these smarter than thou on this thread telling me and the ones that voted for Trump that we are stupid, ignorant, etc. but they can't tell us why except that we are stupid, ignorant, etc.

Well, I have a solution for your problem:


EXLAX!

Never forget that the same geniuses that tell you that you are stupid were the ones who spectacularly misjudged the GOP Nomination process. They are just trying to justify their own stupidity now by pretending everyone else is stupid for making them wrong in the first place.

..Actually what the OP should say is that "Trump's nomination shows that the self proclaimed political geniuses have no understanding of politics."

Trump won the GOP race because he was the only (mostly) moderate in the race and the big secret is the GOP electorate has chosen moderates in the most recent elections: McCain and Romney…

Add Trump’s tough guy macho man xenophobia and that is the reason he was elected.


Good OP, though, as a warning about preserving democracy

the trump failures are massive, and HUGE!!!!

a reply to: NewzNose

I would say your activities here on this message board are enough to show that you are at least some part of the modern phenomenon called social media.

Don't vote for Trump just cause you hate Hillary Clinton. I am not a fan of her myself, and I would never vote for her, but that does not mean I should then suddenly vote for Trump.

As for those who seem offended at the remarks on education, I would like to point out that being uneducated means that you are uninformed but not necessarily unintelligent. I am quite certain that most uneducated people could quite easily become informed if they would open their minds just a little.

a reply to: NightFlight

It was never my intention to call anyone 'stupid'. My comments were to reflect the lack of information and critical reasoning the general masses of the republican party seem to be exhibiting, and not to single out any one individual as incapable of learning.

My question for Trump supporters is what specifics policies does Trump promise that makes you feel he will provide the magic answer?

Repeal Obamacare? He can't do that.

The President of the United States has awesome power, but the Constitution does not give the occupant of that office the authority to “eliminate” a law that has been passed by Congress, whatever the voters may think of that law. It is a fairly common rhetorical flourish for presidential candidates to say something like “when elected, I will repeal” a law. But they can’t.

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Perhaps you agree with a stern stance on Immigration? Trump has and continues to employ Illegal immigrants.

Example one

Example Two

Example three

You think he is a political outsider with no ties to Washington? Wrong again, he spent millions trying to get Hillary Clinton in his back pocket. He employs lobbyist and he himself has been outspoken and friendly towards many political figures for years.

Clinton, the Democratic front-runner and former New York senator who had some say over policy that could have impacted Trump’s vast business dealings, received donations from both him and son Donald Trump Jr. on separate occasions in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, according to state and federal disclosure records. Story Continued Below Trump has also been generous with the Clinton Foundation, donating at least $100,000, according to the non-profit. Read more: www.politico.com... Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Hopefully, these are enough examples of his lying, pandering for votes and manipulative practices, but I can provide more.

a reply to: hubrisinxs

I think Hillary just running is the greatest threat because it ignores the rule of law and illustrates that there are classes in America.

Us and a ruling class made up of elitist politicians.

THAT is the greatest threat to America.

imho

a reply to: jimmyx

the trump failures are massive, and HUGE!!!!

And yet he has became a billionaire after those failures...that alone says he is successful.

But remember his companies bring in around a quarter of a billion dollars in profit...that really says he is successful.

Just because he failed before doesn't mean he will in the future.

a reply to: hubrisinxs

It is precisely THAT he represents such a threat to the government as it has stood for so long that he has garnered such support.

We The People have been cut out of the loop by design while career politicians game the system for their own benefit term after term and decade after decade.

Trump is the ONLY thing to come down the pike that doesn't automatically ensure survival of this status quo.

That's why I'm voting for him.

Nevertheless, I still think the crooked system will force HRC onto the throne no matter what.

originally posted by: Bennyzilla
I think the fact that you assume everyone must be a low information voter because Trump is winning GOP Primaries shows a very greater-than-thou attitude and quite a bit of hubris.

They are. Do you really think the average person has a simultaneous PHD level understanding of economics, foreign policy, political science, and constitutional law? No one has that, not even the candidates themselves. If the people running, who have direct access to experts in these fields don't have the required knowledge and instead do nothing more than adopt policies recommended by experts, then what makes you think the average person has the required understanding to evaluate these policies or even the people who make them?

Politics is a game of the blind leading the blind, the trick is to be charismatic while you do it so people follow along.

originally posted by: UKTruth
..Actually what the OP should say is that "Trump's nomination shows that the self proclaimed political geniuses have no understanding of politics."

Actually, it's that no one properly evaluated Trumps campaign. I disagree with Trump on several policies but his campaign so far has been a work of genius and it's probably his best argument in favor that he would make a good president. He is very politically astute and spent money very efficiently which comes from his businessman side, why pay for something when he can get others to give it to him for free? Just look at all the free publicity he got from the MSM. Trump spent the least of every candidate that made it far into the primary yet he utterly dominated the news cycle with just a few words that were well timed to take the focus off of his opponents making them waste their money.

Then his entertainer side (more so than a real estate developer, Trump for the last 15 years has been an entertainer) has kept people interested in his campaign. He's like Reagan in that regard, very comfortable in front of a camera and he focused on keeping things fun rather than serious. That got people invested.

I disagree with the concept of turning politics into entertainment (not just on the level of Trumps campaign, but I have serious issues with the MSM who have done the same thing) but it worked. People are going to study this campaign and try to emulate it for decades. It was essentially a perfectly orchestrated viral marketing campaign.

a reply to: hubrisinxs
Two of the examples are the same, the contractor hired the undocumented workers and misrepresented them as union workers. Trump had to pay because of the contractor's folly. Cost of doing business.

The H2B workers when hired gets the company a tax break, makes the state department feel good and puts your company in good standing to bid on government contracts. Cost of doing business. Something socialists don't or can't understand.

My previous post stands...

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
And yet he has became a billionaire after those failures...that alone says he is successful.

But remember his companies bring in around a quarter of a billion dollars in profit...that really says he is successful.

Just because he failed before doesn't mean he will in the future.

His wealth has accumulated at a slower rate than every other billionaire in the US over the past 30 years. He turned a small amount of starting capital into a billion but he has grown it from there rather slowly.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: syrinx high priest

You know ... whenever someone complains about it, I've made that same comment. You won't care about it until you see a situation where you think it might work to your advantage.

not my advantage, it was the first time I feared someone dangerous could fool a majority of the country

the founding fathers were wise indeed