Video: Woman harasses man using food stamps.

Take this for what it is worth. I have been in line at Walmart on numerous occasions and watch the same, or nearly the same thing occur. In one particular case, a large black woman was in line with two shopping carts and pushing a 50+ inch flat screen TV across the floor. He "paid" for the the first cart using an EBT card...the second cart with a credit card and paid for the TV in cash.

You decide what that means, but to me it means she can afford a TV and decides to pay in a manner no one can track. She can afford to charge "fun" food on her credit card but for some reason needs for us to pay for her regular groceries.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'd see the same thing when I was on patrol in the projects. There were always able bodied people just loitering around on weekdays, there were ALWAYS cable vans in the parking lots. If they're so poor they need the government to cover their housing, how are they able to afford cable? For every system there's always going to be someone taking advantage of it. But as far as individual citizens go, the vast majority really need the help and aren't pulling a scam.

But an audit of Medicaid fraud (for example) showed the vast majority of the perpetrators were the doctors and healthcare providers...not the people receiving Medicaid. And if you REALLY wanted efficient government spending how about not paying for unnecessary trips for politicians and their families/cohorts? About about not spending $50 on a hammer? How about streamlining the military instead of just buying more 'toys'? How about actually making corporations and 1%ers pay taxes at all? How about cutting foreign aide, and instead use that money to create jobs and infrastructure here?

I mean, if you're going to blow money on something, food and healthcare for the poor is about the best thing you could 'blow' it on. Even if some of them take the charity and still buy a TV with cash.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm on food stamps because I get disability. I also bought a 42" flatscreen tv 6 months ago. What people on food stamps can't own tv's? What about toilet paper or is that too much of a luxury item?

originally posted by: wantsome
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm on food stamps because I get disability. I also bought a 42" flatscreen tv 6 months ago. What people on food stamps can't own tv's? What about toilet paper or is that too much of a luxury item?

Didn't you have an op a while back complaining that you can't eat healthy on your government cheddar but yet you get enough to buy a t.v.??

Your welcome.

a reply to: thesaneone

So what I have to live too. It's not like I'm driving a Jag and eating prime rib. Actually very far from it. I'll trade shoes with you any day. So what I bought a $300 TV. I survive on less then $10K a year. I know what it's like to be on the other side of the fence. I made $50K a year working. Not once did it ever cross my mind what other people did in their life or on food stamps. Not once did I ever look at my check and piss and moan about what the government was talking. I was just thankful for what I had.

a reply to: wantsome

It's your money so do with it whatever you like I was just commenting on how I found it strange that you can sit here complain that you can't eat healthy from those checks but can buy a t.v.


If you don't want people to judge you then you should not post your personal life on here.

a reply to: wantsome

Yeah and when I was on food stamps and TANF I still bought toys for my 2 year old daughter. Because no matter how hard times were, I didn't want her to suffer.

What a fraudulent piece of crap I am.

originally posted by: Bennyzilla
a reply to: JimNasium

I'll cash in my stars to make a good home for your dog in your avatar.

These stars won't go to waste

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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: wantsome

It's your money so do with it whatever you like I was just commenting on how I found it strange that you can sit here complain that you can't eat healthy from those checks but can buy a t.v.


If you don't want people to judge you then you should not post your personal life on here.

There's a whole lot more to my life then a few paragraphs on a message board. Circumstances change and things aren't always the same. I bought a TV one month out of the year with my disability check there's still 11 other months. You sure are quick to pass judgement others. Maybe if you spent a little more time looking inward and a little less time pre occupied with what others do you wouldn't come off as suck a jerk. You know what they say ignorance is bliss. You don't know peoples circumstances in life you might think you do but you don't.

a reply to: thesaneone

I bought a flat screen TV over 4 years ago and we still use it every day. So if his TV lasts even 3 years, that only averages out to $100 a year. Not much to spend on entertainment.

Netflix is $20 a buck (what I do). You can rent videos for free at the library. But you still need something to watch them on.

But I suppose poor/disabled people should just sit in a shack somewhere and read library books by candle light while they're not out in the world spending money on entertainment and social activities like normal people get to do.

a reply to: starfoxxx

Maybe some parents would rather, you know, raise their own children.

originally posted by: wantsome
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm on food stamps because I get disability. I also bought a 42" flatscreen tv 6 months ago. What people on food stamps can't own tv's? What about toilet paper or is that too much of a luxury item?

This is my opinion in answer to your question. Today...a 42" flatscreen TV isn't too much of a luxury. But here is the deal. Welfare, food stamps, etc. are supposed to be a support system. They are not intended to provide for luxury items but necessities. Food, toilet paper, paper towels, tooth paste, etc. Things a normal person requires. A up-scale computer? A 60" HD TV? A Lexus? Nope...that is an abuse of the system.

I would personally put restrictions on benefits such as this. I would limit the benefits to "needs". I would also require these "needs" be of the generic product brands. I would disallow adult "toys" such as electronics, etc. with some exceptions. A feature phone is fine...a iPhone is not. A television is fine...a HD surround sound theater is not. A reliable vehicle is fine...a luxury vehicle is not. But I would also required work, education and/or training. If you have nothing to do (ie. no job) you go to the local office of labor and work 40 hours for them at no pay. Your pay is your continued use of your EBT card. You pick up trash on the streets, cut the municipal lawns, fill in pot holes, etc.

Now...you may see that as harsh. I consider that helping. Others will be paying you to do work that needs to be done. You will be a productive member of society instead of a waste of space. You will receive everything you need to live and survive. If you want a luxury, a toy, etc...then find a job and get yourself some money that YOU earned. The money of others is not for you to go play and have fun. You don't have a right to luxury, vacations, etc...you are being helped and should also be grateful that others are supporting you. You should also WANT to work for your benefits. No one wants to be a leech...right?

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'd see the same thing when I was on patrol in the projects. There were always able bodied people just loitering around on weekdays, there were ALWAYS cable vans in the parking lots. If they're so poor they need the government to cover their housing, how are they able to afford cable? For every system there's always going to be someone taking advantage of it. But as far as individual citizens go, the vast majority really need the help and aren't pulling a scam.

But an audit of Medicaid fraud (for example) showed the vast majority of the perpetrators were the doctors and healthcare providers...not the people receiving Medicaid. And if you REALLY wanted efficient government spending how about not paying for unnecessary trips for politicians and their families/cohorts? About about not spending $50 on a hammer? How about streamlining the military instead of just buying more 'toys'? How about actually making corporations and 1%ers pay taxes at all? How about cutting foreign aide, and instead use that money to create jobs and infrastructure here?

I mean, if you're going to blow money on something, food and healthcare for the poor is about the best thing you could 'blow' it on. Even if some of them take the charity and still buy a TV with cash.

I don't disagree with most of your post. But I will take two exceptions. From my experience, those who are chronically on assistance use the system to their benefit and are basically thieves. I guess that depends upon the area of the country and all but where I'm from...that is the norm. As is the total disregard for crime. The majority of such people have no problem stealing from local stores. Hell...some don't even consider it theft...they think it is just the way the world works. That is learned behavior from parents and peers. These people...the ones I am describing in this paragraph...we would be better off without. And yes...I mean no longer part of our society.

Call that what you will but a thief, criminal, liar, cheat and leech is not something we want in our midst. They are not deserving of our help or benefits. What they do deserve is to be expelled, thrown out or left to "sink or swim" on their own. The fact is that these people make the rest of us and our society in general a worse place to be. They are a cancer and need to be cured.

Again...I'm talking about the intentional criminals that rape the system and the people. Not those who are down on their luck, trying to become productive or inflicted with a disability (physical or mental). I would guess the percentage of people on assistance that fall into the leech category to be 30% to 40% in my area of the country.

originally posted by: wantsome

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: wantsome

It's your money so do with it whatever you like I was just commenting on how I found it strange that you can sit here complain that you can't eat healthy from those checks but can buy a t.v.


If you don't want people to judge you then you should not post your personal life on here.

There's a whole lot more to my life then a few paragraphs on a message board. Circumstances change and things aren't always the same. I bought a TV one month out of the year with my disability check there's still 11 other months. You sure are quick to pass judgement others. Maybe if you spent a little more time looking inward and a little less time pre occupied with what others do you wouldn't come off as suck a jerk. You know what they say ignorance is bliss. You don't know peoples circumstances in life you might think you do but you don't.

When the others you mention are not using our money and our charity...you are correct. When they are taking from the pot that is put together for the deserving...we should watch how they utilize these benefits. I'm not referring to your situation. I don't know you or your situation. If you abuse the system...you are the problem. If you need assistance and use it as needed...you are welcome.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

If you have nothing to do (ie. no job) you go to the local office of labor and work 40 hours for them at no pay

No one wants to be a leech...right?

So if a person is unable to work, or earn enough well working to stay off government assistance, due to a disability, lack of work or mental illness... then you think they should have to work for free, simply to survive, correct?

But isn't proposing to profit from other peoples misfortune (via free labour) "leech" mentality, within itself?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

You didn't read my entire post. I specifically stated that those who are disabled (mentally or physically) are not part of the problem. To elaborate...they deserve assistance. But if there is something they CAN do to contribute to those benefits...they should do so. If you are so sick you can't raise from bed...you probably can't do anything. But if you are blind and get benefits...why can't you answer phone calls and save us from paying another person to do the same. If you are able to contribute to society, wouldn't you want to? I've been out of work and collected unemployment. That feeling of uselessness is the devil. Everyone needs to be part of society or they aren't part of society. Responsible people WANT to contribute and say "I work for my benefits". If you absolutely can't...no problem. If you don't want to...you ARE the problem.

Hope that clears that up.

Prior to 2008, there were a lot fewer people on Food Stamps than there are today.
Also, prior to 1996, the amount allotted per person was much higher until Clinton scaled back the program with the welfare reform bill, while also increasing amount of AG subsidies at the same time to make up for their potential loss.

Despite decreasing the amount per person, the budget has grown and has been growing for the last 30 years.
What happened around 2008 and in the preceding 30 years?

Corporate and Banking Lobbyists is what happened.
Their wonderful "Free" Trade Pacts have gutted this nation and the Banks Games came to a head around 2008 throwing many into poverty.

Also, prior to 1975, the kind of Food Aid you got was not Cheerios, Twinkies and TV Dinners, it was USDA Cheese, USDA Canned Vegetables, USDA Rice, USDA Beans, but corporate lobbyists changed all that because they wanted a cut of that money to.

A lot of what has happened in the last 30 years in regards to our foreign and domestic economic policies can be laid at their feet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

Now just in the last 5 years, Fast Food Corporations have been lobbying to get in on the gig as well.
www.wsmv.com...

Fast food giant lobbies for food stamps

Yum! Brands – the parent company of Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silver's and A&W – is lobbying to have food stamps be accepted at their restaurants.

As we have seen, the RNC and DNC Delegates are composed of Corporate and Banking Lobbyists.
The average American has no say in what puppet the DNC or RNC pick.

The Food Stamp User, the 8 dollar an hour Fast Food Worker and what is left of the Unions is not the problem in this country. Their vote does not matter and they have no money to purchase puppet politicians.

originally posted by: riiver

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: wantsome
People that are Wal mart cashiers not only qualify for food stamps, Wal Mart shows them how to get food stamps and medicaid.

I don't know where you got your info from, but with four family members who work at Walmart I must say I've never heard of Walmart showing anyone how to get food stamps or Medicaid. Also, both my son and son-in-law were making $11 per hour within 60 days of starting. Where I'm at, that's a pretty good wage. In my area NO ONE making $9-$11 per hour qualifies for food stamps unless they have 8 kids.

I could not find any videos of Walmart Employers instructing their employees to go on food stamps, but I did find the billions they nevertheless benefit from.

I also heard about an indoctrination video spoken about my new employees. where it spent more time on what to do if a union rep comes a knocking and the evils of organized labor than about store operations.

Walmart represents Corporatism and Organized Big Business.
They do not believe in Capitalism where Labor and Business should all have negotiating power.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE


But an audit of Medicaid fraud (for example) showed the vast majority of the perpetrators were the doctors and healthcare providers...not the people receiving Medicaid.

You bring up an interesting point and reminds me of something I came across awhile back.
The majority of Agricultural Subsidies do not make it to the family farms or small struggling farmer

They go to the wealthy corporate farms who use that extra money to help kill the smaller farmers.

www.heritage.org...

Members of Congress who are poised to spend at least $171 billion on direct farm subsidies over the next decade would be wise to examine newly released statistics detailing who actually receives these subsidies. In 2001, Fortune 500 companies and large agribusinesses shattered previous farm subsidy records, while small family farmers saw their share of the subsidy pie shrink.

These subsidy programs tax working Americans to award millions to millionaires and provide profitable corporate farms with money that has been used to buy out family farms. The current farm bills1 would provide even greater subsidies for large farmers, costing the average household $4,400 over the next 10 years, while facilitating increased consolidation and buyouts in the agricultural industry.

The name of the game is Corporatism or Fascism for the Mega Corporations and Banks that want to own every thing and everyone.

The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”
― David Rockefeller