Colo. Sends Non-Vaccinating Parents ILLEGAL Order to “Register Their Child With the State”

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Agartha

Well, of course, if it was on youtube it must be true!
I saw this British guy walk on water on youtube, so it must also be true, and not a trick or hoax!

I beg your pardon? Parent's have taken footage of their children regressing after being vaccinated.

There is a type of autism that strikes around age 3. A child that seems perfectly normal will begin withdrawing, losing speaking abilities, etc.

Has nothing to do with vaccinations, other then the coincidence in timing.

You really do not know much about autism.

I'm raising an autistic child.

My eldest daughter was ADD

I have been researching FACTS, not boogeymen for over 20 years.

a reply to: Annee

Guess what? I have autism in the family as well. Various kinds. Your having an autistic child does not negate my own experiences or make them believing in the "boogiemen".

..and I have been researching facts for 30 years.. that is a long time as well. n Do you want us to post resumes as well?

In that time I have even seen an autism movement spring into life where they think it's an evolutionary mutation that should be celebrated like a religion. They call it neurodiversity.. the more radical ones call themselves "autism purist".

Yep boogiemen all over.

originally posted by: riley
I beg your pardon? Parent's have taken footage of their children regressing after being vaccinated. They upload it to youtube as companies that have damaged their children were given legal immunity with the excuse being that vaccines were "unavoidably unsafe". I have no reason to call them liars.. or the teenage girls liars after they have been crippled by Gardasil. I DO thing such video evidence should be permitted in a court of law and that those corporations should no longer be protected. What is so wrong with that?

There are too many fake videos on youtube for professionals to take it seriously. You cannot trust what' s in youtube.
Just like eyewitness testimony alone is not enough to convict somebody.

Plus, and I know we've had this conversation before, if Gardasil was so bad that it has 'crippled' so many teenagers like you have stated, how comes it doesn't affect everybody the same? According to the CDC between 2006 and 2015 aproximately 80 million doses of Gardasil were administered, in the US alone. If the vaccine was to blame then we would see millions of teenagers 'crippled', as you have stated. But we don't.

originally posted by: Agartha
There are too many fake videos on youtube for professionals to take it seriously. You cannot trust what' s in youtube.
Just like eyewitness testimony alone is not enough to convict somebody.

I don't trust everything I see on youtube.. likewise I don't trust many "studies" that come out of a corrupt CDC. If parents were allowed to sue, as they should be those videos would be admissible and their children's medically history could be actually examined properly and objectively.

I also find it a bit sad that you would again imply that they are liars. Nice.

Plus, and I know we've had this conversation before, if Gardasil was so bad that it has 'crippled' so many teenagers like you have stated, how comes it doesn't affect everybody the same? According to the CDC between 2006 and 2015 aproximately 80 million doses of Gardasil were administered, in the US alone. If the vaccine was to blame then we would see millions of teenagers 'crippled', as you have stated. But we don't.

Some are more predisposed to having reactions than others. Not everyone gets cancer from smoking cigarettes but that does not mean they are safe.

..and "if" the vaccine was to blame? There is little doubt that vaccine is unsafe.

originally posted by: riley
I also find it a bit sad that you would again imply that they are liars. Nice.

There are too many people faking illnessess and cures on youtube, including parents faking children's illnesses to gain some cash. Many have been already been exposed as liars. Perhaps you should show me which ones you think are genuine.

There is little doubt that vaccine is unsafe.

And you base this on youtube videos? I can't do that, I need to rely on scientific studies that can be replicated to confirm their validity. Such as:

A study in Denmark and Sweden with almost 1 million females has shown that Gardasil is safe.

A study in the US with 200,000 females showed Gardasil is safe.

You say it's not safe, what's the percentage of girls/women having serious adverse reactions to Gardasil?

I really do not trust any studies that come out through FDA, CDC and their parent companies.

You just sit there and call their victims liars and saying they make money at it.. (you say this while defending a trillion dollar industry which is riddled with corruption) in effect doing their PR for those who maimed or killed them. You know why some post the evidence on youtube? Because they had their legal protection taken away from them.

You judge them for claiming vaccines are unsafe.. you speak as though they are putting lives in danger yet you would agree with them being forcibly vaccinated? That is what this thread is about.

Should we have a system in place where people have to line up and accept being injection against their will?

a reply to: riley

I'm just going to address the question as the rest of it was more of a rant.

Should we have a system in place where people have to line up and accept being injection against their will?

Yes. If a tenth of the population isn't vaccinated then there's a possibility for a major pandemic. Then there's the mutations of the virus/bacteria/whatever that go on within the human body that makes the vaccine either worthless or less effective.

Now let's say 1% of the worlds population has an adverse reaction to the vaccine and it killed then.

I'd take the risk of the vaccine. Sacrifice the few to save the many.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Any links to non-Anti-Vax websites that affirm that any of this is actually illegal?

a reply to: Agartha

There are too many people faking illnessess and cures on youtube, including parents faking children's illnesses to gain some cash.

Some just do it for attention or control: Munchausen by proxy syndrome.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Agartha

There are too many people faking illnessess and cures on youtube, including parents faking children's illnesses to gain some cash.

Some just do it for attention or control: Munchausen by proxy syndrome.

That really is a disgusting assertion.. not to mention you don't actually have proof. Just call them liars.. and feel safe in the knowledge that they won't be able to defend their own innocence because they are not even allowed to show their vaccine injured children in a real court room.

How about this one:

Billionaire sociopaths use their companies to prey on citizens' through insinuating themselves into national health care systems.. and have now even managed to get government officials to LIE to those citizens in order to make each and everyone one of them to be tracked and perhaps within the next few years get them to line up and pay for something to be injected with against their will. Governments are already following Pharma's orders.. I am absolutely stunned that people think this is morally okay. I am also puzzled with the "well it's for the good of the many".. a communist principle.

Would they be okay with seeing an innocent family down the road have their children taken by human services because they refused a hep b or Gardasil shot? I guess at times like this there will always be someone cheering oppressors on.

Bibles. Torches. Pitch forks. Syringes.

I wonder if we will get a manifesto for this new regime.

a reply to: riley

So you'd rather everyone got killed because some didn't vaccinate?

I feel sorry for humanity.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Yeah I am not so sure you aren't trolling.
Hep b wouldn't wipe humanity out and neither would HPV and as for flu shots they are neither safe nor reliable.

You feel sorry for humanity? Rounding people up and treating them like cattle to be branded would guarantee the end of our humanity. Yours would be a very dark world.

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: TerryDon79

Yeah I am not so sure you aren't trolling.
Hep b wouldn't wipe humanity out and neither would HPV and as for flu shots they are neither safe nor reliable.

You feel sorry for humanity? Rounding people up and treating them like cattle to be branded would guarantee the end of our humanity. That would be a very dark world.

Who said anything about rounding up? Most people I know go to the doctors for their vaccines.

What about measles? That could certainly wipe out a lot of people.

You also forgot about mutations. Swine flu and bird flu are good examples of mutations. Imagine HPV mutating another trait or a more severe version of an existing trait.

As for trolling? I guess anyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll.

a reply to: riley

you are right on the spot, from my perspective,
I agree with you, even if I am from EU,
but it seems, sadly, that we are following tracks of USA...
TTIP and all that...but that is another theme.

It seems trust has been misplaced.
People are to trusting the big man in power and to doubtful to the little man.
Even though the little man has nothing to gain and in some cases possibly losses a kid to some chemical reaction or other imbalances after vaccinations and put that online, where it is in many cases shunned as fake?!.

While big man is getting reacher.
So rich that it can buy their way into commercials, governments, research papers, manipulating data, etc...
and people still believe them and act as if everything is valid and honest research...how naive can one get?

our motto all around should be:
all for one and one for all.

and not:
Sacrifice the few to save the many.

This is exactly part of the problem in my opinion - the mindset that brought us to this state, but we still believe them, the man in power!?

the power of love should be stronger than the love for power...until then, these things will not be put in proper perspective, until than money and profit is the king in all sciences: medical or others!

well, just wanted to add my 2 cents.

a reply to: UniFinity

So sacrificing the few to save the many is wrong?

Let's sacrifice many to let a few not vaccinate makes so much more sense.

/sarcasm

a reply to: introvert

Vaccinate your children and don't jeopardize their health because of your own conspiratorial nuttery.

I pity your children living under your "regime". Ignorance of the harmful effects of vaccinations is no excuse in this day of internet access to vaccination adverse reaction and health issue data.

a reply to: TerryDon79

So you obviously believe the lie of "herd immunity".

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: TerryDon79

So you obviously believe the lie of "herd immunity".

And you obviously believe it to be a lie.

Your point?

a reply to: TerryDon79

it is confusing me, how you can see it as right?

the right way would be to investigate what is the real cause of such instances and not let it be just swept under the rug.
Even if there are only small percent of kids having issues with bad responses.

When it comes to our kids and what we put into them, it should be safe 100% no IFs or BUTs.
only than it should be mandatory and even only IF it is really necessary.
imho!

but you seem to say, it is all good in the hood, they are probably fake, right?
but what if the bad side of luck would strikes against your own kid (I hope it does not, ever!),
would you still say that about sacrifice and making jokes like that?

I doubt it.

you would be furious beyond reasoning and you would be desperate to make other people listen to you at all costs...maybe you would put something on youtube, etc...

heh...Well I am projecting, this is maybe what I would do...and what others did!

originally posted by: riley
You judge them for claiming vaccines are unsafe..

I am not judging a particular person at all, I'm just letting you know that you cannot trust whatever people say on youtube/facebook/personal blogs because people lie all the time. Here are a few examples of people faking cancer to get money off others: LINK 1 - LINK 2 ... I can post more.

The whole point is people lie and you should be careful of who you believe. Vaccines are safe, vaccines are the most tested type of drugs. If they weren't safe, adverse reactions would happen a lot more often than 1 in a million.

That really is a disgusting assertion.. not to mention you don't actually have proof. Just call them liars..

If you would post specific videos or cases then we could talk about them individually, and perhaps provide proof.
But how can you ask for proof if you are saying vaccines are harmful and yet fail to show us your evidence?